When all is exposed, the evil works of Pagan Emperor Constantine will be undone.
Good luck with that kek
Christ is Lord
These people are fucking nuts.
It’s not an insult, it’s a suggestion.
If you can’t see all that is going on that is good, then I can not see how you are paying any attention.
There is no point in me giving you any examples, because you’ve likely heard them all and will just write them off as meaningless.
Your problem isn’t lack of evidence or examples, it’s extreme doomerism where you’re unable to see any good happening.
And even when you can’t discount something hood, you’ll just counter it with something bad like you’ve done here.
Why should anyone even bother?
You can only love countries the regime tells you it's ok to love.
Try opening your eyes. That might help.
This is like saying that a world war was impossible because it had never happened before.
Patterns can be broken and aren't on their own conclusive.
So Catholics aren't Christian?
So there hadn't been any Christians for 1500+ years until Martin Luther decided to remove some books and reinterpret a bunch of long held doctrine?
Interesting to me that the whole Q team supposedly subscribes to a Roman practice. What does the Q team know about the Roman Catholic Church?
How charitable of you...
Oh wait, no it isn't, my bad.
The reason Mormonism is wrong is the same reason Protestantism is wrong. Neither have any link to historical Christianity and are the new inventions of Man. Mormonism is late stage Protestantism. If there is no authority on scripture outside the individual interpretation of a book compiled by Rome, then what is even true?
Edit: downvotes without an answer to my question/response to my point. How enlightening...
Me next!
I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!
What do you want us to do? If as of yet Trump hasn't delivered enough, or any, proof as you see it, then what do you expect us to do? Ask him for some? Pull some out of our asses? Concede that we're all retards and there's no proof and that you win and then we just shut down the board?
As for him showing proof, well just look around. Even just last year, it would be somewhat crazy for anyone to imagine a county admitting that there were fraudulent ballots. Now it's happened.
And look at everything else that is happening: https://greatawakening.win/p/17rm5Rcyn4/a-day-to-remember-list-of-todays/c/
We're building to the big one. People have been saying that disclosure has been accelerating for a year or so now, but I never really saw it. Now it's starting to get obvious and I'm seeing it.
Posting a selection of seemingly obvious bots proves that all of flat Earth is a blackhat psyop with no honest people theorizing about it?
There is no digging and no research in this thread. No one is attempting to actually do anything with the starting point provided by catsfive. Because that is what this is, a starting point. People could be sharing info or insights, they could be looking deeper to figure something about this out, correlate it with some relevant Q posts, anything.
Instead, everyone is simply doing exactly what I said they are in my previous comment. This thread has preciously zero value outside of acting as fly tape for flat Earthers to ban them. Which, if that is the goal, great, but don't act like it serves some greater purpose of pointing out and exposing a disinfo campaign. It starts to point out the beginnings of one, but no one has capitalized on that.
I mean, how do we know this is coordinated by the CIA or whatever, and not just some retard in his basement who thought it'd be funny to make some bots? Without any deeper research/digging, which we don't have in here, we don't. All we know is that there are approximately 40 bots talking about FE (which, if we're being honest, may not even be bots in every case for the accounts shown).
Oh, they know. They don't care, but they know.
I suppose that's fair.
Appreciate the work you and all the mods do to keep this place from becoming an unfocused dump, even if I don't agree with the exact approach 100% of the time.
Here's the thing; Saying Earth isn't round is one thing. Saying that the Earth is flat is another. And saying that there is land out beyond Antarctica is yet another.
My question is, how can you possibly conclude the third, outside of believing old maps and the wisdom of the ancients (which I agree is greater than people think)? Is there any evidence, or is it just old wisdom that you base this on?
Could He? Yes.
Would He? I don't know.
Did He? By all accounts, no.
Variation and adaptation (what Darwin actually observed) does not prove primordial goo-to-man evolution.
But how do you know what His word is? Who presented it as His word? The Church did. The Bible doesn't say what is scripture, and it also doesn't say Sola Scriptura. Why then must that be the default position? I'd argue the most reasonable assumed position is that Christ instituted a visible Church and vested it with an authority to interpret scripture. Such that truth is external and objective, not internal and subjective (I believed this was necessary when I was protestant too, and came to the realization that the Church is the ultimate fulfillment of it. Before then, I was really just interpreting the bible myself, despite what I thought. This is hardly external and objective).
As for what is scripture, Luther coming along some 1300 years later and picking and choosing which books he thought were "actually" scripture sounds, to me, like a joke. I might as well run my own analysis of every book and see which ones fit. Maybe the Book of Enoch is inspired scripture. But then again, at that point I'd be making myself out as the authority on scripture, and in that sense making myself out to be God.
As for the traditions of Man, yes, I'd rather follow the traditions that have been carried down since the time of Christ. Sure, they've evolved, but they are not arbitrary, and they all serve at their core to glorify God in a beautiful, virtuous, and holy way. And none of them contradict the teachings of Christ. They all come from, and fulfill, His teachings. At worst, they don't contradict them.
And while obviously outward appearance isn't everything, if all else was the same, I'd pick the massive cathedral with strong traditions over the literal Burger King church that eschews all traditions every time (I always feel bad making a dig at the BK church. I'm sure they're good people, doing their best with what they have to follow God. Obviously, they can't just make a stone cathedral appear in some rural town. But it's still a Burger King, and that just epitomizes the soulless nature of our modern world for me. It's the complete opposite of what I want to go to Church for; To draw closer to God and to stray farther from the world).
As for the Pope, there is absolutely a scriptural argument. Jesus named Peter, which means rock, and then said, "on this rock I build my Church". You can disagree with this interpretation, and it does require believing extra-Biblical Roman claims, but that doesn't mean it isn't in there, and I'd simply refer back to what I said about knowing what is scripture. Without the knowledge of what is and isn't scripture, how do you know what the Bible really says? One of the books removed by Luther makes a much greater case for purgatory. Why isn't that book scripture? Because Rome says it is?
Whether you will admit it or not, every Roman doctrine is based on scripture. And the fact you reject their authority to determine what is scripture, quite ironically, means you don't really have any ground to stand on to authoritatively claim their interpretation is wrong. We'd simply be arguing personal opinions at that point.
While I do think making a FE honey pot every few months is a pretty ingenious idea, was he talking about it before this thread? I've personally never seen him mention it before, and his stuff is usually pretty good.
This is actually a compelling argument for the "firmament" not being solid, as the flat-Earthers claim it is. How else would the birds "fly across the face" of it? Are they sliding along the underside of the dome? Doesn't really sound like flying to me.
Seems quite clear that means the atmosphere, as you point out. "and let birds fly above the Earth and in the presence of the atmosphere of the heavens" seems to be a valid translation based on my brief look at the Strong's Concordance for the word translated as "face" in the actual verse. And obviously, firmament would be atmosphere.
Very tactical application of scripture here.
Earth still wasn't made in a chaotic impact event, though ;)
All good.
And I'm no cradle Catholic either. Went from agnostic to Protestant to Catholic.
So I'd agree that it brings a much deeper understanding when one converts later in life, as there's usually a lot more behind it. It takes more to convince adults.
God bless!
It was started by an individual.
The individual was Jesus Christ.
The infiltration attempts over the last 2000 years have thus far failed, with this current one being the closest Satan has gotten.
There is no "other organization" when it relates to the Church, there is simply the Church that has existed in the same form for 2000 years.
If anything else were true, it's my claim that there wouldn't be a 2000-year-old Church. There'd be some nonsense that's 200–300 years old that split off some other, 300-500 year old nonsense, which itself was a combination of 3 other 500-700 year old groups. This is how the cabal operates, including all the way down to their own family names.
I'm sure you've heard "disinformation is necessary" as the response to this, so I won't do that.
Instead, I'd point out that this misses my point entirely. If someone believes that the Earth is flat, either because they heaven't seen that post before, or because they consider the "disinfo" response to be valid, you are potentially driving them away from Q by making it a "one or the other" scenario. The exact same thing you say the CIA wants to do, but in this case it's people who already were on board.
If someone is on board with Q and with flat Earth, and you make it out that they have to pick one or be accused of being a shill or glowie, they may very well pick FE and move on from Q. Or at least from our board, which would still hurt us all. Now if you're comfortable with this, okay, but don't make it out like you're "oh so concerned" with glowie shills who work for the CIA discounting us when you're sitting here potentially shaving off our numbers by attacking anyone who subscribes to a different theory than you, particularly in cases where they don't even bring it up on the board, but instead find posts by mods stickied where everyone is just shitting on them.
I agree that this isn't a FE board, I'm not convinced the Earth is flat, and I don't think we should talk about it in the first place. And in that same vein, I'm not the one who started this thread nor am I the one that started slinging mud.
To finish, this thread is pretty shit, and just any many people as would run from us for pushing flat Earth are going to run from us as a result of this thread. Partially because it's just devolved into a flat Earth shitfest, but also because it's displaying a bunch of overly emotional responses that lack critical thought, and instead is just a bunch of people attacking others for thinking unorthodox things.
If I had never visited this board before, and this is what I saw, I'd leave and likely not come back, as this thread reads like some retarded pro-vax "look here not there" nonsense.
It's similar to evolution and big bang. These theories chip away at God. Sure, we can integrate all of them into a Godly word view, but there are plenty of people who don't believe because of all these modern scientific disciplines that teach all this nihilistic stuff as truth. "You are an irrelevant piece of matter that has only existed for a fraction of a fraction of the time of the universe; you are a meaningless organism that evolved from a pile of goo and that will die and become nothing".
And while that doesn't make these theories false, it is awfully interesting that the fruits of these theories are a loss of faith in God, and not a strengthening of it. Truth should lead to God, if something leads away from Him, I lean towards it not being true.
The Bible even says that in the end times people will be ignorant of the Creation, the flood, and the coming judgement.
And seeing as these people worship Satan, I think it's perfectly plausible that they would lie about anything and everything, including the shape of the Earth, if it benefits their master.
And for a more worldly explanation, if there is land past Antarctica as the FE theory claims, maybe the evil people just want it for themselves. Is that so hard to believe? Push the overpopulation narrative, kill all us peons, and take everything for themselves. Seems perfectly on brand for them.
In this case, the saying is wrong.
Christ is in charge, and mocking Him is not only allowed, but encouraged by the world and its shepherds.