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FractalizingIron 7 points ago +7 / -0

the actual Q drops themselves, and what the media, critics, and morons, claim is in the drops

I would like add that (er) its not simply limited to the media, critics and morons. It's high on my 'importance' list that frogs, anons and Qtards learn to distinguish between what Q posted (in the drops) and what stories, theories and narratives have been generated by anons and others speculating on the drops.

It's a simple, but important point. Learn to distinguish between 'popular' theories and ideas, and what Q actually writes. That's not to say that all theories, speculations and ideas are wrong, but the distinction is important, as it helps one avoid assigning a level of certainty to narratives for which Q is not the actual source.

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FractalizingIron 1 point ago +1 / -0

"the Storm, where thousands of people would be rounded up ...."

Q4881


There is 'Q'. 1
There are 'Anons'. 2
There is no 'Qanon'. 3
Media labeling as 'Qanon' is a method [deliberate] to combine [attach] 'Q' to comments _theories _suggestions _statements [and ACTIONS] made by 2.

This description of 'The Storm" you are talking about here is from 2. Anons. It's not from Q.

That's the reason Q had to emphasize this distinction between 1. and 2. There is a lot of theory out there that is not Q (1.), but is anon (2.).

That doesn't mean all ideas or theories coming from 2. are wrong or false, but the distinction is very important. Because a lot of the stuff coming from 2. - particularly in a world where now social media is the mainstream, and people can post or spread anything they want - is actually wrong.

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FractalizingIron 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm wary of manufactured rage bait

A wise and pertinent position, imo.

So, digging a bit here, I 1. downloaded the image, did an image search, then cropped the image to the upper half only, then searched again. Led me to this yutub video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i8jZDlroyQ

So, the incident is potentially real, and recorded. However, there is a problem here. In the era of social media, sensational stuff like this is being used to trigger emotional reactions at the cost of critical thinking.

There are idiots, zealots and fanatics everywhere, not to mention people afflicted by spiritual problems (eg. obsession or possession, etc). How frequent is this sort of incident?

Assuming it was real (and no staged), the question is, how reflective of the larger reality is this?

I personally believe that the weaponization of radical Islam is a deeply serious problem, but this particular incident is just one incident.

"rage bait" - whether real or not, the thing is, content like this is posted to stimulate rage, outrage, anger, etc, Emotional reaction, for manipulative purposes, rather than to inspire or enhance critical thinking.

That said, the text of the post does seem to make an effort towards critical thinking. But not everyone who picks up the post and boosts it on social media will be paying attention to that aspect.

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FractalizingIron 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ray, I'd like to challenge your thinking and reasoning here.

vax injury/death victims.....will be forever angry and will never let it go

Ok, so that's a belief, not a fact. And, obviously, its important to have beliefs, but they should never be confused with facts.

Try not taking the expression literally, and so what line of reasoning you can come up with. It's worth exploring.

The dilemma is essentially reflective of the larger one that a lot of people get stuck on or which they circumvent: If God is a Father of love, how can he let suffering exist? Isn't he responsible for all the suffering, then?

Unable to resolve this question effectively, some people go atheist. "The whole concept in the Bible doesn't make sense". Still others arrive at a superficial explanation: "It's God's will, and we cannot understand it" or "It's just 'free will'". etc.

But in the modern world, with highly developed abilities to think and reason logically, people in the current era require a better, deeper, and more satisfying explanation. imo.

If it were an easy question or dilemma to resolve, people would have done it long ago. However the history of philosophy (aka the practice of thinking) has a development arc that indicates, progress still waits to be made.

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FractalizingIron 1 point ago +1 / -0

a much broader statement

Indeed, grammatically. In fact, however, its not so much broader as it is emphatic. And, it doesn't change my interpretation of "patriots in control" at all. Whether its "Patriots are in control" or "Patriots have always been in control", its the same message, essentially.

I mean, some people take metaphorical and descriptive language literally, rather than penetrating to the real layer of meaning. Sometimes, semantic analysis is a skill not so easily learned. But language is a curious thing.

I mean, to me, its 1000% obvious that 'patriots have always been in control' doesn't mean, since the dawn of time, and the genesis of human civilization, patriots have ALWAYS been in control. Right? So what does 'have always been in control' mean?

In my view, it simply means that since the beginning of the operation, the 'patriots in control' aspect hasn't ever faltered.

But isn't the implication...

So, that's the conundrum. How to interpret what the message actually is. And, if you do NOT believe in Trump and what they are doing is essentially moral and good and is being run on moral goodness principles, then the interpretation that "this means they are responsible for everything...." is easy or easier to swallow.

This is exactly why off-the-cuff, simplistic or literal interpretations of so many Q statements don't work. To resolve the situation and messaging to arrive at an explanation that is compatible with one's deeper moral sentiments requires lots of effort. Lots.

"The choice to know will be yours" ~ Q

Perhaps what that also means (or implies) that the choice to understand "will be yours".

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FractalizingIron 6 points ago +6 / -0

Patriots in Control does not mean that the Evil Actors are not in the game. It simply means that Patriots are in the advantage position, and in a capacity to direct the forward flow of events towards a particular desired conclusion.

The process they are in control of is the one where steadily, over time, the capacity of Evil Players to cause damage is reduced, but that process takes time.

"Patriots in Control" does not mean they control everything. Rather, it means they control the direction that things are going in, during that process of destroying the foundation of evil.

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FractalizingIron 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hokay. Missed GAW yesterday, and I'm coming into this thread very late, so I guess few will read my comment, but for the record:

I could subdivide my podcast Listen List into a few categories:

  • Regular (Essentially never miss)

  • Frequent (Listen to two out of three or four podcasts. i.e. for a weekly, 2 or 32 times in the month, for a bi-weekly, 2 or 3 per fortnight)

  • Occasional (No regular listening, but still now and then)

Regulars

My Regulars have been slipping to Occasional a bit recently, because: a) there is such a wealth of content now available for those who make the effort to pursue it, and b) there is so much habbening and going on that too narrow a focus feels like I would miss too much (aka not be able to maintain a 40,000 ft view and/or overarching perspective that is able to get a feel of the 'whole picture' - which is an important objective for me in my info-hunting).

So, for the past year or more, (som of them much longer), my Regulars have been:

Devolution Power Hour (DPH) (on Badlands), either Wed episode (with Chris Paul) or Sat episode (With Burning Bright).

The WHY: This podcast discusses current events of the week, etc, in light of devolution theory and Great Awakening / 'the Plan', BUT their approach is strong analysis, critical thinking, lots of self-reflection and emphasis on HOW we/they think about the information we come across.

Advantage: Strong development of critical thinking and cognition approach

Geopolitics With Ghost (on Badlands), once per week.

The WHY: Gordon McCormick (Ghost of Based Patrick Henry) is a very good, autist level researcher into geopolitics and history. His analysis always involves direct reference to facts and information that illuminates the landscape. These facts and information are very often content that is not widely known, but which is factually based.

For example, did everyone Know that Israel was essentially founded as a socialist, pseudo communist state? I didn't. Essentially by Marxists from Eastern Europe? The Israel founding ethos is in direct opposition to the ethos of the founding of the US.

Advantage: glorious amounts of relevant information hard to glean from podcasts out there, and only obtainable by heavy duty research. Which is what McCormick does, and provides.

Frequent

The Book of Trump (also by Ghost, on Badlands).

The WHY: Ghost shares research on historical events and incidents in the past that impact on the current times, specifically the work that Trump is doing, and how he is affecting the national and international world.

Advantage: Historical perspectives on what Trump is doing now and the issues and incidents that have shaped the current landscape that Trump (and anons) are traversing.

Promethean Updates (usually twice per week).

The WHY: Promethean Updates provide a specific perspective on the role of the Bankers, the UK empire residues, that are deeply intertwined with Globalism and the satanic elite. Strong research, even though a somewhat narrow and specific focus.

Advantage: Adding clarity to a key part of the overall picture, particularly as it applies to the reshaping of the global order that Trump is currently executing. Expanded perspectives.

Defcon ZERQ (on Badlands, mentioned elsewhere in other comments)

The WHY: Very Q based perspectives, solid research, high grade reasoning.

Advantage: Adding to the 40,000 ft view with Q-based thought and perspectives.

Other Frequents include The Narrative (Badlands), Space revolution (Badlands)

Occasionals various podcasts from Badlands. Badlands pretty much seems to have something for everyone....


Aside from podcasts, I do my daily review of current news using these Telegram channels: Praying Medic News, We, The Media, Jordan Sather, Patrick McCormick, and a bunch of others that share 'news' content.

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well, yeah, but learn the lesson of the World Cup. Supposedly, gazillions of Europeans, etc, had the impression that the USA is [this] and then found out, by personal direct experience, that the USA is {this}.

The media sphere and notably the info war is packed chocablock with the negative information and happenings that rightfully warriors for truth and freedom should be paying attention to, but these are actually limited incidents, and are not representative of the whole experience, or the majority experience, in those countries. I'll bet.

Unless you are talking about North Korea.

No, the media coverage is there because its important to their agenda (and also to the Awakening, actually), but visiting any of those countries is not going to be that experience.... probably 90% of the time.

Living in those countries, however, well, yeah. Things are bad, really bad. The countries' directions are the issue. But if you want to see the good things in France, Italy, Slovakia, even Canada, or elsewhere (UK?), that's not going to significantly impact your visit.

World Cup syndrome. The sensational information that comes across social media and legacy media does NOT represent the reality of most people's daily life. What would you say to soccer fans who said "I want to go to the World Cup, but... dude, its in America. you know what its like there. Street violence everywhere. Riots. People have guns and there is gun violence all the time. NO thanks!!!"

Um, no.

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

And Dave's dyslexia is oh, so real. I always found it funny and endearing how he could never know how to pronounce certain words, always missing the correct accent or stress.

I just heard a recent report that Dave had accidentally doxed his face on someone's podcast where he was a guest. His camera was on. So, I mean, his face is out there is you want to hunt for it.

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks banjo.

As long as we engage in good faith, are willing to stand by our convictions but also be open to other perspectives, we'll move forward.

That said, no one is perfect, and although I have some biases towards Clandestine, that's not to say I think I can stand in judgment over him or even really know where he's at.

I do think his highlight of the U1 issue is a good one, too.

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

If there were a GAW Medal of Freedom, our mod team would all be recipients.

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

We don't call him Q-a for naught!

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, I never thought you were datefagging, Fat.

I guess my subjectivity level has increased in recent weeks.... I meant no slur or disrespect to your comment, just that my own experience (observation) is a steadily increasing acceleration.

I do feel like we've begun to reach cruising altitude, tho.

Either way, head on swivel exhortations are never out of place, and never grow old, either.

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FractalizingIron 1 point ago +1 / -0

OK. Either a lack of popcorn or insufficiency of caffeine is at work her for me, so could you perhaps rewrite that in English?

Or rewire my brain so that I can understand what you mean here?

<head-scratchingly yours>

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FractalizingIron 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think its OK to offer your conclusions and thoughts in a condensed form to a public who might not have the time or inclination to do the same level of investigation, but I don't think its OK to simply set yourself up as THE authority to tell them what's what.

That said, I guess I can fall into that in my own area of specialty, so... hmmm...

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FractalizingIron 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, Look, I'm mr pedantic these days. and I feel like, by far the more important aspect of engaging with Q is not WHAT you learn or find out, but HOW you learn to think, engage, approach, and self-analyse/reflect.

For that reason, I think Clandestine's comment here is misguided, bigly.

There are other ways he could have approached wanting to offer newbies or others insights into the drops without setting himself up as an authority giving the definitive answer. Infloooencers do this. Not bona fide anons.

And, reading some of Clandestine's posts today, I'm getting an impression that he's pretty big on his own identity, aka his 'importance'. Not sure that this is a good move.

But admittedly, I'm biased on Clandestine. From other sources that I have a long track-record with, its been indicated that, at the time of the Russian move into Ukraine in 2022, A bunch of folks were putting together their research on the whole Ukrainian biolabs thing, and Clandestine was a part of that group, and that he essentially decided to grab all the research, began posting it as his own rather than a collective work, and then blocked everyone else who was in that original group.

I'm not sure how accurate that is, but given the sources this comes from, I give it a high level of credence, and from that angle, I'm kinda biased about Clandestine.

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FractalizingIron 3 points ago +3 / -0

oh. Well, gravy is important.

Hey, surely you are familiar with qanon.pub. I thought it was kinda cute how someone there attempted to attach answers to many of the drops. Not sure how far they got.

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FractalizingIron 2 points ago +2 / -0

One is free to adopt that perspective, but its an interpretation and not a fact.

You can say and believe or adopt the view that "this is Q", but the fact is, its nota Q drop placed on the chans, and is something entirely different. I mean, from this perspective over here....

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FractalizingIron 2 points ago +2 / -0

I most certainly moved through a whole spectrum of commentators. I think that, by and large, when one digests and incorporates the unique angles and qualities that a particular commentator embodies, one then can or naturally does move on.

That's certainly true in my case. PM was one who I stayed with longer than most, only Dave at x22 topping him. During the Posting OP (2017 - 2020 ~) I probably listened to some 16 or 17 (!?) different commentators going through different phases. Some of those include

Redpill78 (?), BCP Black Conservative Patriot, In the Matrixxx (who I dumped after realizing that they are an anti-Flynn operation, Bards of War, Edge of Wonder, Man in America, SGT Report, just to name a few.

I would stick with one or three for a while, but then move on as the landscape of the operation etc, changed.

Eventually, however, the one's I have stuck with longer than anyone is Badlands. Firstly, it was Defected (3yrs), and during them I began listening to Devolution Power Hour, gradually both versions, and so on. Geopolitics with Ghost.

I feel like Badlands content, by and large, is the university level content for anons, in terms of cognitive observation, reasoning and critical evaluation of information. I bumped into Defected in 2022, and now a few Badlands shows are my full staple of updates.

Not that everyone will follow this path. Each of us has a unique angle and will resonate with different sources. But overall, I think, absorbing and upgrading is generally a sign of one's engagement steadily maturing.

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