I thought you can be interested. (Bad english ahead, sorry)
On this very moment, there's a turmoil in the italian govt. Since before Christmas, mr.Renzi (the ex PM, now supporting the actual administration with his small party) began to threaten mr. Conte (actual PM) to withdraw support and bring down the govt. Renzi asks for more power in the govt, but most of all he wants Conte to drop his personal assignment to National secret intelligence service. You must know that in Italy the control of secret service and intelligence is up to PM, but usually he delegates some top brass to the task. Conte didn't. He never did, and many criticized his choice, many asked why but he always refused to explain. It's his constitutional right after all. Most of us think it's because of the Spygate. Trump asked the italian PM to take care of that business. Italian secret services are actually at the orders of Conte and President Trump (as proved by those photos of Cia men at the airport). Renzi desperately wants to stop this.
The day after the assault at Capitol Hill, when Trump looked finished and Biden was proclaimed President, mr.Renzi attacked Conte more than ever asking him to drop his secret services control, accusing him (for the first time) to exchange dark secrets with Bill Barr. Many of us were amazed: Trump is done, Biden won, why on earth this man is so desperate to get that task out of Conte hands? Why Renzi doesn't feel safe now and is pushing so roughly?
Welcome Italy Anon and thanks so much for the news update!! The story of the fraud is expected to break out in Italy quite soon, and likely before it really comes out here in USA.
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word has it there is a shit load of diplomatic meetings going on. Technically what they did is an act of WAR...they are trying to keep the spaghetti sauce off the walls...Rosa wea gotaa biga fuckina problem.........
yes it is.........supposedly originated in the Vatican.....think the poop is is in a world of hurt at the moment.........mamma mia
Thanks, I needed that laugh.
Not technically. Factually it was an act of insurrection.
yep it goes right into the Vatican....good thing the poop is wearing a dress or his pants would be full....lol
Yep, NATO allies conspiring to bring down the US government is a very big deal with huge ramifications.
Been wondering about this...
Does this contain a hint that Bill Barr was secretly white hat? I can't believe that after Barr's final betrayal RE the capitol.
Though I'm still not 100% sure on Barr, I lean to thinking he is white hat. That so-called "betrayal" could very, very easily have been a head fake for the Deep State.
I can't pin much on the people trump has around him. It's tough to know who he controls and who is acting as a decoy to mess with the deep state. Even pence could be in on the plan now to give them hope. But now they obviously have run out of political moves that are viable. Some think trumps job is done, now the military guys are up for their operations. Each playing their parts to prove the treasonous acts.
Say what you will about Pence, but Trump's comment about "hoping the VP comes through for us" is looming large in my thinking... Follow for a moment:
If the goal was to out all the traitors in the house and senate (ie, drain that part of the swamp), all Pence needed to do was make sure the proceedings didn't derail, so the crime could be completed. He did that part, even though there was much pressure on him, he even sent that letter, which seems to me to have been all the traitors needed to feel safe in their endeavor. Lots of chatter about his "lack of courage", even from Trump, but it's all head fakes. Appearances must be maintained until arrests begin. Wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see Pence again.
Now Trump and Pence are both in the ether somewhere while the traitors fume and sputter, knowing they've all been outed publicly, and are completely trapped.
If that's all true, Pence played the part he had to, even if it was a penance.
From the tweets Lin Wood is posting about Mike Pence, I d.o.u.b.t. very much if he is a white hat.
I defended him on voat a few years back, saying proof was needed not speculation, but although he always said and did the right thing those little monkey eyes are a creepy as hell.
I thought this until....... 1) Trump snubbed him at the Bush funeral, and 2) the Pences got an envelop, (which I think was a subpoena attached to a photo of them doing their sacrificial initiation into the cult) 3) when he secretly passed something to a uniformed person behind Trumps back, and 4) always seems too chummy with the deep state actors when he thinks the cameras are not on him, then finally 5) The State of the Union, pretending not to be close with Pelosi.
Good english anon, way better than the aussie english i write.
Way better than most of the liberals in this country. They have dumbed down their language so much you can’t understand half of what they say.
So is Conte on Trumps side?
Many anons in Italy suspect Conte is on Trump side. Trump supported the birth of 2nd Conte govt with a tweet, that's something unprecedented!
Salvini supporters, of course, deny all this. But the fact are: Conte met Bill Barr twice in secret, and they exchange informations about Spygate. Also, italian secret services gave Trump all informations about 2020 elections case.
Conte politics are NOT Trump politics: he obeys to UE, Covid, vaccines, and all the bullshit. But he's working with Trump about Spygate, 2020 etc. Many of us are sure.
We have no idea how tapped into trump conte is. All the knee jerk info in here is worthless. Just watch the show and quit pretending to know who the good and bad guys are it is not always obvious.
Absolutely no, Conte is a puppet of EU/BCE/KNOWNFRIENDS as all the italian gov that doesn't have an election since at least what? 3 cycles? DEMS sold and fucked up the country at every level, Italy on political side is Anti Trump as fuck, the only one who tended to defend Trump was Salvini with his coalition, but they have been defaced and shitted in public as only we know how to do
Any chance of getting salvini back and stopping the jihaddi flood? Aren't Italians sick of being flooded with random invaders?
Sadly no, i mean, people is tired vocally yes, and we are really good at complaining, but on factual plane, as long as they show football matches and the big brother realities in TV w boobies, no one will ever do something, we are a fucked up people
And the rapes and murders :(
I kept saying to not write Barr off. Trump kept saying Barr is a good man. If Trump sniffed a rat out he would have been gone a long time ago.
Barr is a white hat IMO.
This is confirmed by linn wood..
Then again - nobody who plays for each side. There is intelligence infiltrating and coming out left right and center.
There’s a possibility that the 17 th president of USA will be a Vice President inauguration... as it did historically.. that would mean pence might ascend.. as traitor? Or as double agent..
Nobody really knows what’s going on, tbh. If trump has agents working the left - we wouldn’t be privy to that... because they would see it too.
One thing I know is trump has won. It's over. This is the clean up and partial revealing of what went down.
When did Lin make up his mind about Barr?
I think Barr came in knowing he would carry the ball only so far, then hand it off at the right moment. Stand back and play his bagpipes while the DS burns to the ground. Walk away satisfied.
And with his reputation intact, as an added bonus. Hands clean, so to speak.
I have always believed he was. Trump has too much information, he putts the right people around one and keeps his enemies closer. I think Pence is bad but I believe what he did on the 6th was because he was told to. If he would have gone the way everyone wanted him to then they would not have completed the crime of stealing an election.
Trump won and isn't going anywhere.
Interesting. Please keep us posted on these developments, anon. We don't get much foreign news over here anymore. Especially when it concerns the U.S. or Trump, unless it's negative news against the U.S. or Trump.
I think you're on to something here.
godfather 3
Italian secret service are not under President Trump orders, for the same reason that the american ones are not under Conte. For the rest it may be...
Remember 5 Eyes.
Yeah of course, but you know what I mean. My english is bad.
Pope Francis is an elite puppet. When we read you americans think he's a mastermind or he rules the world, we ROTFL. He just repeat the usual liberal bullshit like 99% of politicians, actors, singers, do. Many of us italians (normies too) think he was put there illegally by the global elites, to destroy Vatican and the Church from within. And Vatican is almost destroyed, believe me.
But there is always a remnant that can rebuild. Have faith!
What about Pope Benedict? And was Pope John II a good guy?
Pope Benedict got his papacy stolen by the elites who wanted a puppet and then elected Bergoglio. Today a (famous) italian priest said "They've done to Trump what they've done to Benedict. This is how they work."
Thanks. I was a member of the Pope John Paul II fan club (I am a Catholic) and I knew that he was good friends with Pope Benedict. I remember seeing a video of Bergoglio when he gave one of his first talks from the papal window having several mafia-like people behind him. It gave me a chilling feeling. Even the voting by smoke for Bergoglio seemed staged.
I read somewhere that this is a thank you to America for getting the Nazis out of Italy in WW2. If Italy can do this and help save us from fascism 2021; and by extension the world, then the world would owe Italians a love beyond anything in a long time.
Interesting...
Thanks for the info and your English is very good.
Democracy was born in Ancient Greece. If not for Q it would have already died in America.
Here's more background on the Italian connection and the effort to get the evidence from Italy to the US. enter text
Is that why the pope decided to step down before Christmas??
Question though...why is the only document we've seen about this written in English without a letter head and yet still signed? Wouldn't it be written in Italian? And if it's just a translation why was it signed?