BREAKING: South Carolina passes bill that bans nearly all abortions.
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Hmm, I think abortions should be allowed if mother's health is in danger or she has been raped etc.
Seems like an ideal law. Still allows early term abortions and makes us accountable for later term abortions.
I see no issues with this approach.
Yeah no shit.
Crazy how people wanted to peddle the idea of unmitigated baby killing as "reasonable".
Ehh both sides don't want to reach the obvious middle ground that South Carolina did. Both sides share some, though obviously nowhere near equal, blame for how hard it is to meet in the middle on this issue.
SC definitely did the ideal thing. Some people will grumble at any abortion at all, some will grumble at any restrictions, but honestly the law is as perfectly targeted as the issue is going to get.
First heartbeat or rape/incest/danger. Otherwise no abortion. Sounds like a true middle ground between ideals.
Most women aren't aware they're pregnant even at the 5-6 week mark.
You could...you know....google the answer?
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/when-does-a-fetus-have-a-heartbeat
If you're going to contest something, at least have a clue what your position actually is.
No it isn’t. It still legalizes murder. Abortion is murder. It’s a proven scientific fact that a new human organism is created at conception. Either you believe all human organisms are created with equal inherent rights, or you believe our rights are merely arbitrarily granted by whoever happens to be in power over us based on arbitrary criteria such as race, gender, age, location, mental/physical abilities, etc.
As for exceptions, there are none that should be tolerated. No child deserves the death penalty for the crimes of their rapist father.
Also, killing your preborn son/daughter because your health is at risk is like murdering your teenage son/daughter because you need to harvest their organs for a transplant to save your life.
if a mother cannot survive the pregnancy then who will care for the child, the government? nobody?
if this were the wild and a child is born to a dead mother, both baby and mother die. we can afford to save one of them in our society.
get real
That's not true. At conception the organism lacks every single trait that would qualify one as human.
How about option 3 - All human beings have equal rights.
I don't consider a collection of DNA and chromosomes to be a human being even if it has to potential to be one.
It's not a child at 3 weeks.
Uh...what?
And here you deduct a human to be nothing but made of cells with no soul. Meaning just physical (which is determinism) and no soul (non-physical entity). This is just pure nonsense and evil. We know that there exist more than just this physical realm that there is something beyond it. A body doesn't have a soul until after birth. Science only goes as far as measuring what is in this physical world. It cannot study consciousness because the soul exist in the non-physical realm, affecting what is in the physical realm.
It's actually less stressful/traumatic and quicker to undergo an emergency c-sec if mom's health is in jeapordy than it is to do an abortion. I can think of no medical circumstance where an abortion makes sense.
Abortion is murder. It’s a proven scientific fact that a new human organism is created at conception. Either you believe all human organisms are created with equal inherent rights, or you believe our rights are merely arbitrarily granted by whoever happens to be in power over us based on arbitrary criteria such as race, gender, age, location, mental/physical abilities, etc.
As for exceptions, there are none that should be tolerated. No child deserves the death penalty for the crimes of their rapist father.
Also, killing your preborn son/daughter because your health is at risk is like murdering your teenage son/daughter because you need to harvest their organs for a transplant to save your life.
Hypothetically if you were in a burning building and there were 6 unborn fetuses being grown and 6 children and you only had time to save either the children or the fetuses what would you do?
That is my stance also.
That's why I'm sure it says "nearly"... obviously exceptions are almost always present.
Many obstetricians have stated that there are no maternal conditions that require abortion to save the mother. I worked in the OB field for over 35 years, and never witnessed (or heard of) a mother's death due to the lack of an abortion. Some babies born extremely early due to the mother's health did not survive, but their survival was always the goal.
Although pregnancy after rape is less common and a true tragedy for the mother, abortion tends to make the rest of us feel better, as it removes the constant reminder of the rape, which may diminish the love and care that the victim needs to recover. Of course, each victim's response to the pregnancy is individual. Some women are happy with the choice to carry the pregnancy. After all, the child's DNA is from the mother as well as the rapist father. How the victim views the pregnancy may depend upon the messages, love and support (or lack thereof) that she receives.
That’s still murder. No child deserves the death penalty for the crimes of their rapist father.
Also, killing your preborn son/daughter because your health is at risk is like murdering your teenage son/daughter because you need to harvest their organs for a transplant to save your life.
Consistent logic/morals are important.
How are those the same in the slightest? In one case the child is directly causing the woman's life to be in danger and in the other it's not.
One is you shooting someone trying to kill you with a bat and the other is you shooting someone because they have water and you're thirsty.
Agree on rape.
False, the child is never responsible for killing the mother. The child did not create itself, did not place itself in the womb, and did not initiate any force against the mother. Preborn children are always 100% innocent.