Yeah I also have always wondered why Christianity is persecuted worldwide more than any other religion. Its like they just can't stand it because it is a threat to them because it means they cannot win no matter what they do. The random vitriolic hatred towards Christians specifically is almost like a demonic reflex. Its so strange.
It has never been proven that there is a god or a satan but what is dangerous is those that believe there is a satan. Many wars and endless millions of deaths throughout history are because people hijacked and misused and abused religion to justify war after war and murder after murder.
I don't believe in god or satan or anything in the man made bible but it doesn't matter what I believe. People that say they love god are typically nice people while those that say they love satan are the evil murders involved in sacrifice and worse.
It has never been proven that the God of the Bible is not real either, and if He does exist, you not only will have missed out on the Greatest Riches you could ever imagine, but you will face a God who's wrath on Sin and those who lived their life in Rebellion against Him is beyond your finite comprehension.
Go ahead, roll the dice.
A wise man once said if he had nothing but his thumb to prove His Creator existed, it would be enough.
You say you don't believe there is a God? God says you are a liar.
Romans 1:20
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse"
God has been telling you about Himself since the day you were born.
Psalm 19: 1-3
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."
You will be found " Without excuse " on Judgement Day.
"Guilty" will be the only possible verdict
Revelation 20:15
"And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire."
So we're damned to hell simply for not believing? How pathetic this god is. I'd rather be sent to hell with my head held high that I am not as petulent and flat out needy as this guy is seems to be.
No. not for simply not believing, for living a life in complete rebellion against His authority. He owns you whether you want it or not. He created you.
Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Except God made a way for you to be saved which you reject to your own peril
Romans 6:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
You will earn your way into Hell, that is the wages of sin, your fault, not His
You can accept His free gift of Salvation that He has provided lovingly and mercifully. Again, your choice, He will not force Himself on anyone.
Or you can just keep on kidding yourself that a day of reckoning is never coming. Many people meet with a sudden end when they thought they had all the time in the world left to them. Someone swerves on the freeway all of a sudden you are a swept away to face eternity. Everyone will live somewhere forever. Heaven or Hell. It is your choice.
I get your arguments. I made them myself for many years. They're logical, and from the standpoint of someone with good intent who is skeptical yet curious, they're made with moral incredulity. How can this purported entity of unfettered love also damn those who don't believe?
I'm no bible scholar, but it feels like there's some elasticity in interpreting the Word. People present their interpretations in different ways. Fire and brimstone may help lead some whereas guidance with lenience may work better for others. (Raising my hand)
My suggestion is be open to a the Word. Read and pray the way you feel natural. God works in mysterious ways, and there are many ways to sheppard. What route an individual takes is ultimately, to paraphrase Q, "part of His plan".
He works in different ways sometimes
Romans 2:4
“Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?”
This verse says His Goodness leads men to repentance.
Sometimes He uses fear of death, fear of hell and suffering, He knows best and what it takes to reach someone.
I personally took a bad fall, was life-flighted, and had a Pastor ask me a very poimted and simple question, " If I died today, do I know for certain that I would go to heaven? " I said yes, but I really didn't know, and that question haunted me for years until I finally started asking serious questions and being serious about God. And this is what I learned
Jeremiah 29:13
“And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.”
none of this answer the fundamental question of why i want to be associated with an entity that demands i worship it or be damned to a hell dimension upon my expiration? This is nuts.
Satan is so misunderstood by most people. The Bible says he was the most beautiful and wisest angel God created. He was the anointed covering of God's Throne. Cast out of Heaven for his pride, he thought he could be like God and take God's Throne. Satan, contrary to most men's beliefs, does not revel in all the discusting Satanistic Rituals that men think he loves, neither is the worst horror movie his realm of domain either. Men have come up with all these frightening things all on their own. Satan wants men to succeed apart from the leadership of God. He wants a World that can be perfect apart from God. If you want his mantra and creed look no further than the Humanist Manifesto, "Good without God" ( yes. they are out there lurking still, behind every communist marxist movement, they are the real enemies)
Anyone who wants a real in depth look at who and what Satan is up too needs to read Phillip Mauro's book " The World and it's god " It is heavy reading, he was one of the finest minds of the last century.
2 Corinthians 4:4
“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
Satan's biggest mission is to keep mankind blinded to the Glorious Gospel of Christ. He does that in many ways.
If you need more evidence that Satan is the god of this world remember that Satan offered Jesus all the Kingdoms of the world if He would fall down and worship him.
Luke 4: 5-8
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Really? God was humble enough to leave Heaven and die on a cross to save sinners.
2 Corinthians 8:9
"For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich." This is speaking of spiritual riches.
Why doesnt he just remove demons from the earth and thereby stop babies being raped? If he has the power to and doesn't, he is just as complicit as them.
Evil wins when good people do nothing. God is not worth of my respect.
All any Christian can do is give you warning, your fate is in your own hands now.
Ezekiel 33:8-9
" When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. Nevertheless if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul."
Rc22, I want to thank you for all you've given me to think on. You're citing scripture to make your point in a way I can appreciate. Will also look into Philip Mauro. If you say he's a top tier mind, I tend to believe it.
If anyone has a right to pride it would be God,
Psalms 113:6
“Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!”
This is God's word proclaiming that He humbles Himself just to provide for you everyday. You may think you are a self made man, truth is God could dry up the earth tomorrow and every living thing could whither away.
How does a molecule stay together? the bible says except God holds the Universe together every moment it would cease to exist.
Colossians 1:17
“And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”
That word "consist" means " Held together "
You too are made up up atoms and molecules that He holds together everyday.
Is the bible ever wrong? When men thought the world was flat this verse was thousands of years old
Isaiah 40:22
“It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
By the way, that verse is why Columbus sailed. Everyone thought he would drop off the earth at some point. America is what it is today because of God's Word
100% this. I was agnostic until I saw the Kim Clement prophecies on R/T_D shortly after Trump won. But I have thought about this. Why do these people that want to convince us that God isn't real worship the bad guy from the same religion? Oh but no no no they dont worship him! Anyone who displays satanist shit is just being rebellious! /S
They are children of the lie. The devils greatest tool is deception. And boy do they use it. They're so good at it that they follow/enjoy satan but have you convinced they're not serious. ?♂️
Do not believe anything these people say. Ever.
Spez: Nice name btw. I made Karate Bob on Soul Calibur ?
100% even some people here are following some of satan's spawns in the music industry because they like what they hear and block out the bad stuff that shows their true character.
This is why I pretty much only listen to synthwave cause I dont need shitty lyrics to enjoy music. Sadly though even that genre isn't free from them. Some go all the way with that imagery. cough Carpenter Brut cough
https://i.maga.host/8fhNy3U.png
The funny-but not funny thing is, I never payed too much attention to this thumbnail as it was glaringly obvious it was satanic but now I just noticed the slice of pizza with a knife in it ?
The reason I think they fear Christianity is because of the love and hope we have for our families, community and our neighbors. When we have hope we can dream and dreaming leads to new ideas or able to achieve our goals. When they instill fear, we then are depressed, and once we are at that stage, they can control the masses. It also, then promotes a selfish agenda. Where it is only about you. There will be no love for your neighbor or community. It's self preservation. We are social beings, when there is a disaster or crisis we come together and become united. This is my opinion.
Yeah I also have always wondered why Christianity is persecuted worldwide more than any other religion. Its like they just can't stand it because it is a threat to them because it means they cannot win no matter what they do. The random vitriolic hatred towards Christians specifically is almost like a demonic reflex. Its so strange.
Can't remember who said it, but it sums it up: "The Devil attacks most violently that which he hates the most."
Satan like anal sex... Playing catcher. Sometimes pitcher.
If ultimate Evil exists in the world. Then so too must an ultimate good. Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
The greatest trick the devil plays is convincing us he doesnt exist.
It has never been proven that there is a god or a satan but what is dangerous is those that believe there is a satan. Many wars and endless millions of deaths throughout history are because people hijacked and misused and abused religion to justify war after war and murder after murder.
I don't believe in god or satan or anything in the man made bible but it doesn't matter what I believe. People that say they love god are typically nice people while those that say they love satan are the evil murders involved in sacrifice and worse.
It has never been proven that the God of the Bible is not real either, and if He does exist, you not only will have missed out on the Greatest Riches you could ever imagine, but you will face a God who's wrath on Sin and those who lived their life in Rebellion against Him is beyond your finite comprehension. Go ahead, roll the dice. A wise man once said if he had nothing but his thumb to prove His Creator existed, it would be enough.
If god wants to punish me for not believing in him, then he's not worth believing in in the first place. That is some petty, arrogant shit.
You say you don't believe there is a God? God says you are a liar. Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" God has been telling you about Himself since the day you were born. Psalm 19: 1-3 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."
You will be found " Without excuse " on Judgement Day. "Guilty" will be the only possible verdict Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire."
So we're damned to hell simply for not believing? How pathetic this god is. I'd rather be sent to hell with my head held high that I am not as petulent and flat out needy as this guy is seems to be.
No. not for simply not believing, for living a life in complete rebellion against His authority. He owns you whether you want it or not. He created you. Ezekiel 18:4 “Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Except God made a way for you to be saved which you reject to your own peril Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." You will earn your way into Hell, that is the wages of sin, your fault, not His You can accept His free gift of Salvation that He has provided lovingly and mercifully. Again, your choice, He will not force Himself on anyone. Or you can just keep on kidding yourself that a day of reckoning is never coming. Many people meet with a sudden end when they thought they had all the time in the world left to them. Someone swerves on the freeway all of a sudden you are a swept away to face eternity. Everyone will live somewhere forever. Heaven or Hell. It is your choice.
He owns me? So God is now a slaver? We are property? Get out of here with this rubbish man, this God is not somebody I want to be associated with.
I get your arguments. I made them myself for many years. They're logical, and from the standpoint of someone with good intent who is skeptical yet curious, they're made with moral incredulity. How can this purported entity of unfettered love also damn those who don't believe?
I'm no bible scholar, but it feels like there's some elasticity in interpreting the Word. People present their interpretations in different ways. Fire and brimstone may help lead some whereas guidance with lenience may work better for others. (Raising my hand)
My suggestion is be open to a the Word. Read and pray the way you feel natural. God works in mysterious ways, and there are many ways to sheppard. What route an individual takes is ultimately, to paraphrase Q, "part of His plan".
WWG1WGA
He works in different ways sometimes Romans 2:4 “Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?” This verse says His Goodness leads men to repentance. Sometimes He uses fear of death, fear of hell and suffering, He knows best and what it takes to reach someone. I personally took a bad fall, was life-flighted, and had a Pastor ask me a very poimted and simple question, " If I died today, do I know for certain that I would go to heaven? " I said yes, but I really didn't know, and that question haunted me for years until I finally started asking serious questions and being serious about God. And this is what I learned Jeremiah 29:13 “And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.”
none of this answer the fundamental question of why i want to be associated with an entity that demands i worship it or be damned to a hell dimension upon my expiration? This is nuts.
Watch the Kim Clement prophecies dude. Those were my proof. ?
Satan is so misunderstood by most people. The Bible says he was the most beautiful and wisest angel God created. He was the anointed covering of God's Throne. Cast out of Heaven for his pride, he thought he could be like God and take God's Throne. Satan, contrary to most men's beliefs, does not revel in all the discusting Satanistic Rituals that men think he loves, neither is the worst horror movie his realm of domain either. Men have come up with all these frightening things all on their own. Satan wants men to succeed apart from the leadership of God. He wants a World that can be perfect apart from God. If you want his mantra and creed look no further than the Humanist Manifesto, "Good without God" ( yes. they are out there lurking still, behind every communist marxist movement, they are the real enemies) Anyone who wants a real in depth look at who and what Satan is up too needs to read Phillip Mauro's book " The World and it's god " It is heavy reading, he was one of the finest minds of the last century. 2 Corinthians 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” Satan's biggest mission is to keep mankind blinded to the Glorious Gospel of Christ. He does that in many ways. If you need more evidence that Satan is the god of this world remember that Satan offered Jesus all the Kingdoms of the world if He would fall down and worship him. Luke 4: 5-8 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
God has the most pride of all and yet he punished Satan for it?? Doesnt make sense.
Really? God was humble enough to leave Heaven and die on a cross to save sinners. 2 Corinthians 8:9 "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich." This is speaking of spiritual riches.
Why doesnt he just remove demons from the earth and thereby stop babies being raped? If he has the power to and doesn't, he is just as complicit as them.
Evil wins when good people do nothing. God is not worth of my respect.
All any Christian can do is give you warning, your fate is in your own hands now. Ezekiel 33:8-9 " When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. Nevertheless if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul."
Rc22, I want to thank you for all you've given me to think on. You're citing scripture to make your point in a way I can appreciate. Will also look into Philip Mauro. If you say he's a top tier mind, I tend to believe it.
Thanks again.
Glad to be of any help :)
that doesnt answer my question.
If anyone has a right to pride it would be God, Psalms 113:6 “Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!” This is God's word proclaiming that He humbles Himself just to provide for you everyday. You may think you are a self made man, truth is God could dry up the earth tomorrow and every living thing could whither away. How does a molecule stay together? the bible says except God holds the Universe together every moment it would cease to exist. Colossians 1:17 “And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” That word "consist" means " Held together " You too are made up up atoms and molecules that He holds together everyday. Is the bible ever wrong? When men thought the world was flat this verse was thousands of years old Isaiah 40:22 “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:” By the way, that verse is why Columbus sailed. Everyone thought he would drop off the earth at some point. America is what it is today because of God's Word
100% this. I was agnostic until I saw the Kim Clement prophecies on R/T_D shortly after Trump won. But I have thought about this. Why do these people that want to convince us that God isn't real worship the bad guy from the same religion? Oh but no no no they dont worship him! Anyone who displays satanist shit is just being rebellious! /S
I don't care for satan, but I love heavy metal, anime and video games. Which I would imagine plenty here do.
\m/
Satanists, at least the LaVey type, don't literally believe in Satan.
They are children of the lie. The devils greatest tool is deception. And boy do they use it. They're so good at it that they follow/enjoy satan but have you convinced they're not serious. ?♂️ Do not believe anything these people say. Ever.
Spez: Nice name btw. I made Karate Bob on Soul Calibur ?
Satanists dont want you to know its true obviously they dont say Satan is real or people would arm themselves spiritually
100% even some people here are following some of satan's spawns in the music industry because they like what they hear and block out the bad stuff that shows their true character.
This is why I pretty much only listen to synthwave cause I dont need shitty lyrics to enjoy music. Sadly though even that genre isn't free from them. Some go all the way with that imagery. cough Carpenter Brut cough
https://i.maga.host/8fhNy3U.png The funny-but not funny thing is, I never payed too much attention to this thumbnail as it was glaringly obvious it was satanic but now I just noticed the slice of pizza with a knife in it ?
They consider themselves to be separate from god, which is why they do not acknowledge him.
No God = No Satan. No Satan = No Evil. So where does pedophilia fit into this equation?
They'll deny Satan but it's just like Islam in that lying is encouraged.
The reason I think they fear Christianity is because of the love and hope we have for our families, community and our neighbors. When we have hope we can dream and dreaming leads to new ideas or able to achieve our goals. When they instill fear, we then are depressed, and once we are at that stage, they can control the masses. It also, then promotes a selfish agenda. Where it is only about you. There will be no love for your neighbor or community. It's self preservation. We are social beings, when there is a disaster or crisis we come together and become united. This is my opinion.