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posted 5 years ago by Skyboytripleseven 5 years ago by Skyboytripleseven +118 / -0
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– Trenace 39 points 5 years ago +39 / -0

The Covid situation is not medical. It is a political and economic weapon, not medical, and very little about the response has to do with medical.

Now, for a person who is seriously ill, and that can happen, it is a medical event for them, but I mean overall.

If it were medical, when the French HCQ/azithromycin studies by one of the leading infectious disease doctors in the world came out with only a single death among 3000 patients, most elderly, while the world was crying how fatal Covid was, that would have brought joy and hope, rather than instant near-universal condemnation with lies of HCQ allegedly being so dangerous and somehow there being no benefits or the benefits were not worth the alleged extreme risk.

If it were medical, corticosteroid use to address cytokine storm would have been continued from the beginning (doctors were using it initially as it's obvious) rather than promptly stopped by false orders that it was supposedly harmful.

If it were medical, patients needing only assistance with breathing rather than forced ventilation would have been put on CPAP or Bi-PAP rather than ventilators which commonly themselves kill patients, instead of CPAP and Bi-PAP use being banned for Covid patients because of supposedly "aerosolizing the virus."

It it were medical, when it was found that there were populations such as prisons where out of just over 3000 inmates and staff, over 3000 tested positive yet almost no one was ill at all, everyone would have realized that for most people there is no threat and further, such mild, attenuated strains should be allowed to spread naturally so as to achieve herd immunity quickly, rather than insist on quarantine. Covid would have burnt out quickly and been long over by now if that had been done.

if it were medical, PCR testing would be not be run at 1,000 to one million times higher sensitivity than is medically valid. The sensitivity is exponential, so each 10 added cycles beyond the norm of about 30 increases sensitivity by just over 1000 times, and they got to running as many as 50 cycles.

If it were medical, masks would not be mandated.

Businesses would not be shut down.

It goes on and on.

To understand what is going on, the idea of medical facts having anything to do with Covid response must be discarded, because it absolutely is not medical. It is a weapon for globalists, leftists, and the "Great Reset," and against Patriots in every country worldwide.

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– Nevergiveup2them 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

^^^^ Fucking Spot On Anon!!!!!! All previous medical knowledge was abandoned to push the narrative that would lead to the most damage and require the “shot”. It’s a FF by definition. Full stop.

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– Insignificant 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

And don't forget the "COVID relief bill" barely addresses COVID at all.

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– deleted 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0
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– bigger_bunz 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

when I had it early last year and I collapsed from not being able to breath (well obviously I could breath but it was labored and actually frightening) I am glad I didnt go to a hospital. Those ventilators kill and I may have been put on one. I didnt know how bad the ventilators actually are on the lungs. My lungs were fucked up for many months. It can be bad, but is is fucking overblown for bullshit reasons.....

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– fatigued 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Not that I would take a vaccine anyway, but I would NOT trust Johnson and Johnson ever. At. All. J&J has been exposed during their mesothelioma and ovarian cancer litigation to hiding the existence of asbestos in their talcum powder. They deliberately concealed their own data decades ago.

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– gobby 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

You may want to correct your post to say you would not trust them. You left out not.

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– NOKfan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I have read things that would disagree with your statement re: asbestos litigation.

Also, talcum powder was NEVER meant to be used internally.

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– fatigued 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

*"talcum powder was NEVER meant to be used internally." *

I've not seen anywhere that someone has claimed they deliberately used the powder internally. Baby powder was meant to be sprinkled into a baby's diaper. Can you recognize the potential for it to migrate into the body? And dusting with talcum powder after a shower creating a cloud can be inhaled into the lungs.

Jury awarded $117 million for 45 year-old Stephen Lanzo’s asbestos cancer, mesothelioma. "confidential internal Johnson & Johnson documents that proved that “Johnson & Johnson and its supplier Imerys knew since the 1960’s that the talc used in Johnson’s Baby Powder contained asbestos, and that this might cause the companies to face litigation risks forty years in the future. " According to the Reuters story, Johnson & Johnson’s raw talc and talcum powder tested positive for trace amounts of asbestos on several occasions between 1971 and 2003. There have been multiple verdicts against J&J in the ovarian cancer lawsuits. The first one was a South Dakota woman who won after refusing a $1.3 million settlement offer from the company.


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– NOKfan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I have seen where grown women continued to use the powder and iirc used it inappropriately.

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– fatigued 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yikes. I don't think I want to know what that means.

Many of the claimants say they have life long use - starting as a baby? How does the infant have any control over where the powder is used?

I once thought that something made for babies would be safe for anyone to use

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– NOKfan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

From what I read they were powdering the inside and not just the outside. I don't disagree with you, it should be safe, but by the same token, iirc their studies found the potential for trace amounts of asbestos which should not have been affecting anyone. Also they have beat a lot of those suits. I am just pro J&J bc I have some in my sons' college portfolio. I like to see them get credit for some good they do.

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– fatigued 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Investments aside. Johnson & Johnson lied. They hid the information for decades that they knew there was risk. Seems to me that I read somewhere that they created a fund for the lawsuits way back when.

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– NOKfan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I was not aware of that, thanks!

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– PhDinNY 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The talcum powder lawsuit is a classic case of taking something that is known to cause cancer, asbestos, and then blaming ANY product that contains ANY amount of asbestos to be the cause of ANY cancer a person may experience at ANY time in their life regardless of the actual amount of exposure to the product. When lawyers get involved, all scientific/medical reason is irrelevant.

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– knowledgeoverpower11 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

As long as Big Pharma is making loads and loads of $, there will never be a "cure" for anything.

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– test_pattern 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

This is the stated goal across big pharma. No breaking news headline here.

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– HeyDumDum 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

almost all of these "vaccines, medications, etc are designed by the health care cabal to keep you unhealthy and coming back for more health care services

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– Sunshines09 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Literally had a conversation about this yesterday. You'll generally be healthier if you avoid going to doctors, everything is so over treated.

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– HeyDumDum 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

i agree unless it's for a broken bone, baby delivery or things of that nature

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– Sunshines09 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yup, exactly.

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– deleted 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0
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– Trenace 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

There is no way anyone with ethics would claim medical benefit to a "vaccine" with no long term testing for use against a virus with, for most demographics, an over 99.9% infection recovery rate, and thus no proven benefit to risk ratio.

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– LoobintheToobin 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Unfortunately, any company making vaccines is knowingly participating in poisoning the public for profit.

“WHO is a front for these depopulation interests.” July 9 2007: “Jon Rappoport interview of ex vaccine researcher” — https://archive.vn/o7u59

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– NOKfan 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Theyre stil l more trustworthy than Moderna's first attempt at MRNA vax. You can't cure coronavirus, it's a common cold.

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– LoobintheToobin 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Considering their pushing a “vaccine” who’s efficacy could only get to a measly 66% (when you know how they decide efficacy this is very bad.) and they want you to get it annually

Feb 9 2020 (efficacy single shot reported 66%) J&J CEO says people may need annual COVID-19 vaccine shots for next several years https://archive.vn/QIqiC

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– Vbusce 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Corona virus can not be ‘cured’ per day. It is a virus. An inert non living organism. One can be cured from the infection and disease associated with it

The concept behind vaccination is to squander the virus ability and load in the environment.

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– DeplorableLadyPede 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You just described the entirety of healthcare.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– bigger_bunz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

This is true of cancer as well, a sick patient is a profitable patient.

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– OldManTouchyBiden 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

So basically it's a flu shot. I mean as long as it doesn't fuck with my RNA and give me infertility or kill me, I don't care.

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– graucho 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Roughly two thirds of the claims compensated in the NVICP (5,297 claims) have been for influenza vaccine injuries. The total compensation to date (paid for by consumers) is almost $4.5 billion. As the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a voluntary surveillance system, is acknowledged by the government to capture as little as one percent of actual adverse events, the flu vaccine injuries and deaths could be as high as 320,000.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/protecting-our-future/flu-shot-facts/

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– EuropeNeedsFixing 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The whole business model of Big Pharma is to not cure, but keep alive, preferably buying medicine on a subscription basis.

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– Deaf_MAGA_Pede 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

None of the BigPharma companies want to cure us, they want to keep us sick by adding "side effects" to the supposedly "pills/shots that will cure us" so we will be sick later on so they can reap in the profits.

They don't care if we die, all they care is their wallets and bank accounts getting fatter.

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– Dson 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

So the drug manufacturers are making customers not curing anyone.. sounds about right

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– georock 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you for that but that is the purpose of big pharma.. Cures are bad for business

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– numina18 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Vaccines never cure anything. They prevent illness. So, I don't get this comment at all.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

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