...and can you tell me whether I'm right or wrong? The whole Pence thing being a bad guy leaves big holes in the way I see things - for the plan to be going on perfectly well (for me, of course), Pence needs to be a good guy.
So, the reason why we've decided to posit that Pence is a traitor is the following:
- He certified the electoral college votes on January the 6th.
Yet, when we look at the way things are now, we realise and admit that the election had to be stolen and the fake President inaugurated in order for the fraud to be complete, for people to grasp the extent of their corruption. Finally, it was also important in order to secure future elections.
But, what if Pence had indeed refused to certify the votes? There would have been a commission to investigate the votes, and the state legislatures might have decertified their votes, and Trump inaugurated. So, we wouldn't be at where we are now, and it seems to me that everyone here agrees that this is the Greatawakening, and that people needed to see the corruption first hand.
Also, Trump insisted on saying that the most courageous thing for Pence to do would be to do nothing? He mentioned it two times:
"All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people. I just spoke to Mike. I said, ‘Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage,’ and then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot, and we have to live with that for four more years."
Let's think about it: did Mike Pence do nothing? Yes. Isn't that what Trump asked him to do?
Now, I know that the reason we're convinced Pence is a traitor is because Lin Wood has accused him of being a pedophile. I remember that in a tweet, he even accused Mike Pence of killing 58 children. I, for one, believe Lin Wood is on Trump's side. So, how do I interpret these accusations?
Q-post 3598 https://qalerts.app/?n=3598 says the following:
https://twitter.com/stormypatriot21/status/1195416791431995392
"Whistle Blower Traps"
[Mar 4 2018]
'Trap' keyword select provided…..
Whole or (parts) - break/break
You have more than you know.
Future proves past.
Q
Why wouldn't this whistle blower trap be one set for the DS, to make it seem as if the narrative was frail, fragile, and that the information Lin Wood has is not credible (because, if you follow my theory, Pence is not one of them)?
You don't access this post by typing in Whistle Blower (as it's in two words) but "traps". Now, this was posted on November the 15th, 2019, and Lin Wood started making accusations regarding Roberts - and later Pence - at around the same time period a year later. Lin Wood himself does not say he has evidence that Pence has done what the whistleblower has purported he has done. Lin Wood says there should be an investigation, and the only "proof" he has of it is that his whistleblower is credible.
Also, who followed Lin Wood before November the 3rd? Why was he put to the forefront? Remember how Sidney Powell and himself were supposed to be part of Trump's team, then we all started following them, only to be removed afterwards? I've always thought that the aim of putting them on the Trump team in the first place was to get people to listen to what they said, and to follow them. In this sense, Lin Wood served a purpose. Notice also how Trump never mentions him.
Interestingly, Pence published an article in TheDailySignal a few days ago (https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/03/03/election-integrity-is-a-national-imperative/) where he put forward election fraud, and clearly states that changes regarding elections have to be made via the legislatures (Under the Constitution, elections are governed at the state level. And each state is required to appoint presidential electors “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.”). What's the purpose of his doing this now? Why would he come forward with such information, knowing full well that Trump supporters have turned their back on him? It only makes him appear as a hypocrite, and now that Trump is vetting people, clearly, it'll only take one word from him for us to be fixed forever. I think that this revelation from Pence, if one might call it so, will become handy in the future.
Also, these past days, MSM has been pushing the narrative that Trump is going to be doing identity politics and is wondering whether he's going to be choosing a woman or a Black woman as VP. Apart from the fact that this is not Trump's way of doing things, the Epoch Times published an article yesterday (https://archive.is/Et1ZH), where a former Trump advisor, Miller, said that Trump had not ruled out having Pence as VP on a 2024 ticket. Why would this come out now?
In addition to all of this, we have to remember that Miller thanked Pence for the "most complex military operation" carried out in US history.
I know some of you are going to mention the elbow bumping with Nancy Pelosi or the coin. What if all of that was only part of the scenario? It seems difficult for me to imagine that Trump would have achieved so much without Pence's help during his presidency, and for all of the above reasons, I believe that Pence is a white hat.
Please feel free to poke holes in the theory, that's all I'm asking.
Pence got an envelope at the Bush funeral, Deep State all the way.
In my way of looking at things, the Dems were made to believe that Pence was with them. Also, if we analyse symbols, we could also say that Pence was the only one not to open the envelope for the funeral.
I have always thought Pence might be some kind of a double agent. The Chris Miller thing is really hard to explain away. If that wasn't a legitimate thank you I would be VERY surprised.
Pence's wife getting an envelope seemed like disinfo to me even at the time. Trump and Melania ignored Pence when they walked in and said hello to everyone else, even Obamas. Pence and his wife ignored Trump too. It seemed like a staged mutual dis to me, i.e., disinfo. If Pence's wife's envelope was supposed to be some big reveal by Trump that he knew Pence was DS, why would they pretend to be pissed off at each other BEFORE the envelope reveal? The elbow bump with Nancy is also over the top and seems like disinfo. I think at the end of the day we are going to be surprised by who the good and bad guys are, if we ever even know.
I think what you say is partly true in that he was being used to lull them into a false sense of security. That said, I think he has skeletons in his cupboard which were used to compel him to do the right things now. But then again, it could all be bluff and double bluff. Will we ever know?
Who's to say President Trump didn't put those envelopes in the funeral programs. He and Melania were only there for a short time. It seemed like time enough to place them there and then leave. He could have placed Pence one to take the suspicion off Pence so that he could help carry out Trumps plan. I've always thought that Pence was part of the plan and I will maintain that thought until I'm proven otherwise.
pence is a pedo but keep defending him
I understand why you would say that, but if I got Q right, it means asking questions, putting forward theories due to logical thinking and then having them contradicted if need be. I'd love to hear your analysis of it, I honestly would. That's mine. I said feel free to poke holes, I meant it.
study up on child trafficking lines and exactly which states allow the most traffick through
and this ties back to organ harvesting ....
pence is right in the middle of the former and right next door to the later ....
governors all know what is going on in their states
like cuomo living in albany with NXIVM and raniere being a pedo since 2012 allowed to function quite uniterrupted
and ranieres connections back to the clintons who all moved to new york at the same time
there are no coincidences and this is big buisness to these dark demons
I've learned (through experience) not to make too many final judgements until the end of the movie so it's entirely possible Pence is on the good side. We just don't know at this point. Same goes for Rosenstien, Sessions and Barr.
Before we begin to torch people, remember... It is necessary to use disinformation. I know that a lot of information seems to point to Pence as a bad guy, but that is how disinformation works. And, we as a group, don't have a good prognostic track record. In the end, many that we trusted will be proven bad and many that we accuse will be proven patriots. We won't know until the end.
I agree. I made the connection when he was given the coin and almost purposefully showed it to the camera and made a big gesture while gazing at it before putting it into his pocket. Then I thought about his debate demeanor. He’ll always be the silver fox in my book?
Naw, I think you very well articulated what I also think is most likely the case. I think Pence’s hat matches his hair color.
I could be wrong.
We will see.
Better reason: the original has been dead for awhile now.
You can't assess this by his VP term.
Go back yo Indiana history where HW qas in congress and then the governor.
Go back to the eighties and learn of the problem with SATANISM in Indiana.
No one gets to run for prez with accolades bor be a prez, or VP without being a playa.
In games you know nothing about. He's a creeper and had to enter a room with a camera, a child, a bed and a gun. Long ago.
All while masquerading as THE EVANGELIC!
WAKE UP PLEASE.
Someone .. who has died/murdered.... made lots of videos about how pence runs a child sex ring. ALSo his plane was diverted on July 4th.. Trump stopped him from something.
What do you mean?
did you miss all the first bumps Pence gave Kamala? or when Trump removed Pence from his 2020 signs expect on the first row 6th column signaling 1/6?
or how most of the media wanted to impeach Trump so Pence can serve? Trump probably expected Pence moves and thus it may look like a white hat thing to some. But it is Trump team out maneuvering the fox and turning it to their advantage.
Cause let's be honest, if Pence sent it back and Trump is Pres, there's no major down side, the normies will redpilled eventually since the cheating was still all caught.
I don’t agree with the fact that Trump being elected would have had no downsides. The media would have been against him, even more violently than it was before, and even though he would have achieved things, he would not have woken people up to the corruption that exists.
I know there are a lot of symbolisms out there but that’s what I’m not focusing on - I’m stating what happened, and drawing a conclusion based on what Trump had said.
Moreover, Pence refused the 25th Amendment. Maybe that was actually a blow to the Dems. How could they even have imagined that he might do it? Maybe because he gave them reasons to believe so, and not being able to do so, they had to go through the ridiculous and sham impeachment process once more, from which they came out looking even more grotesque than ever.
Honestly, without the 6th, I wouldn’t even be here.
I never trusted 30 Pence but I'm willing to eat crow.
Yes same. I think they all knew what he would have to go through during this time “being the traitor”. I does take an incredible amount of strength if he is in fact white hat.
Doesn't detract what Lyn said about him
He might still be a traitor for things he’s done in the past but I’m pretty convinced he was following Trump’s orders when he certified the election on Jan 6th. Like Q said, we’re watching a movie.
I have a problem with him fucking teenage boys.
I believe the jury is still out on Pence and time will tell. It is definitely worth waiting to make this judgement as there is evidence on both sides. He always looks so disgusted and uncomfortable when he is interacting with the DS tho.
I think we would now be fine if everything had gone the other way and exposed the fraud, the corruption, and all the other “who did what”. We would have Trump as President. I know that none of my Dem friends will not ever admit they were wrong. You can show them everything any way you want, they don’t care if gas is 5 bucks or they pay more taxes. They think the higher taxes improves the lives of the bottom half with social programs blah blah blah.....they are socialists and don’t want it any other way!
I did. You did read my post though? I was wondering if the whistleblower thing could be untrue. I will look up what somebody else mentioned down, regarding states.
Here's the sauce for anyone that hasn't read it:
https://populist.press/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/FULL-Transcript-of-Whistleblower-Interview.pdf
Should've posted it myself. Thanks fren.
No problem. I've got you covered.
Thanks. I fat fingered the post button before I had finished ?
It takes courage to do something and even more courage to do nothing...
Don't you just love mystery/suspense movies? The ending should be a big bang! Whoops! I need more popcorn.
Absolutely! I didn't mention it as I think the sources were not confirmed regarding Pence and Trump laughing, then refusing to take Pelosi's call, etc. But, yeah, all of this put together does tend to point to the fact that Pence is a white hat. Like you, I don't know for sure, of course, but I always try to analyse what Trump says before anything else, and start from there, which brought me to my conclusion.
Yep, also Pence in emails with Paul Ryan colluding against Trump in 2016.
Those emails are almost certainly fake. Why would they be using their real names on protonmail accounts? And why was their website registered in 2018?
That is true, although the emails were never proven to be legit. Also his being involved in Flynn's case.