I think a lot of the info in that post are circumstantial. Paper.li being a lefty organisation and the companies showcased there all being lefty - thats purely circumstantial. All those are really big companies and clearly they will showcase their biggest customers. And it so happens we are living in a clown era where all big corporates are pandering to the left. This is more a reflection that the entire infrastructure has been infiltrated by the left, than anything else.
Typos, capitalisations, wrong spelling etc really don't bother me as well. So what if they are foreigners.
To me the most compelling argument is that the content they posted claiming it to be their own happened to be taken from some site, and they banned when asked about it.
Great job Evspra! Definitely some questions that need to be answered. I had my doubts about George news when I went on their YT and they were selling shirts among other things. I'm starting to think my gut feeling is right.
(Hosting for such base is another problem,probably we shall go P2P)
2.We have no database or no thread for "facts" and its verification. Not enough verification.No coordination. Just posts on forum we will loose in noise of comments ?
3.Some guys are researching space force material still do something,but because of cleaning cookies regularly i lost crypto key to their room (can log,but only present communication available). Only few people including me were interested,but I had another plan too (now cancelled due to GA.win being invigilated by the press).
What does it show: do we know who is doing research ? Do we appreciate good research ? Do we know we do enough research or do we know if some research was already done and by who ?
** Ok,we ARE lazy ones. Too lazy it seems. After news will notice - and will notice, those George News incident will be used against us - have no doubts. Of course if "the news" would be asked about their "journalism" and methodology - they are not better really. But they will not mention that... They will mention our and only our failure.Question of time.Question of time...
Also: It seems that GeorgeNews was carefully planted. There were users who fucked research about the key or maybe (memory is sometimes flawful) even claimed that "they found nothing on ebay". Claiming localization and so on. Can we track who started those things about GeorgeNews ? No,no database.
No,no real formal list of argument for or against.
New Problems.This thing would cause another problems.
In short: too much trust about questioning everything. While it was indeed advised by Q,treated literally it could be very destructive too.
Some people are angry because they were "only asking questions" and were banned.
The problem is some questions are and will be targetting Q posts and Q to "prove" Q is larp with the target to "dismantle Qanon" (there is no "qanon" but those lie they invented is about targetting us,so I used those their label). While we need research Q as not-artificial meta-meme have no strong defence mechanisms like "ideologies" (other meta-memes) have. For me it proves our "ideology" (too big word for believing Q posts but let's treat that this way) is probably NOT artificial and NOT engineered really (or if would be - then engineered poorly) but it also means those lack of stability which could be used.
While I am just reasonable sceptic who hopes about military action because knows that problems signalled by Q are real, person seeing things that may indicate that indeed there is Q military operation (or perfect show for us - we can never be sure), I could try to unmask some of those things,but I cannot do this all alone. We all should be careful. We need researches done formalised way with sourcing who puts what argument/counterargument, we need it searchable enough or we will have serious trouble.
We all need to check sources
We all need to check what those data means
We all need to be cautious and ask - how those data could affect our behaviour,and would that be good or bad ?
We all need something like "meme warfare center" but not being only about memes but about all propaganda,all media. By the way - some intelligence man and writer from France with Russian ancestors whose daughter served in US diplomacy suggested this idea before memes in internet emerged. I cannot say more about him today,because of his importance,but he advised it when internet was like baby.
Agreed - every piece of evidence Evspra has presented is at best circumstantial. I started to write up a response post but it's a waste of time. Those who think for themselves can easily see how his take on George does not fit the facts.
I am not 100% convinced George News is legit, but many of the conclusions Evpsra draws about them are illogical. His posts read the same as anyone else who has "debunked" George.
As always, the prime directive is to think for yourself.
I’m new around here and all but these types of stickies and accusations by mods seems slightly.. off..
Maybe I’m used to my one and only main source QRV and Q posts and not used to this style forum where mods play such an active role..
If anything, there’s a HUGE connection between JFK JR > GEORGE magazine > DJT
Has Q mentioned the GEORGE aspect at all? I will have to search.
I even received a comment here saying that the same publishers who produced TRIGGERED for Don JR are the ones who own George?
Sometimes the threads are a little George heavy, but it’s the same for many other topics, ie the generals and misc tweets by scavino etc.
So what is the consensus on this Telegram anyways? I see so many posts here claiming this and that and it always goes through to telegram which I haven’t made my way onto nor do I know if I will.
I’m a pretty simple man myself, with not the most time in the days for reading and researching SUPER deep but I have done quite well the past 5 years.
Blessed to have followed Q and Trump Storm in context with daily events or i wouldnt even be able to fathom how truly epic and on point they have been every step of the way.
One day hopefully we will have a white hat production on a Hollywood level scale detailing the start of the plan 20+ or however many years ago, to the Vegas massacre, to where we are today. Or at least what Q has and will make public.
whether George is legit or not, I don’t like how it’s now banned from this site because one person said so. This is no better than Twitter with this slippery slope of censorship...
Yeah but what about knowingly spreading fake news & allowing fake news to be spread?
That’s no good either....
And this isn’t just “we don’t like what you are saying, so ban” this is literally they are fucking FAKE LIARS!
I’m super bummed about this because George dropped some good shit.... but then, I was always suspicious that what they were saying was too good to be true....
Oh don't be a crybaby. At least you're not on your last strike because of one particular mod who is always looking for any opportunity to ban you just because they think you downvote them for no reason constantly.
I got banned by him twice. Then banned for talking shit about him promptly on my return.
Now I have to literally avoid him at all costs or else I'm kicked out permanently :/
Or I can make my last insult worth it lol. Time will tell
I’m not one of the people that down voted you, for whatever it’s worth.
I definitely agree with your point - any sort of censorship in any form is completely cowardly, communistic, fascist, and totally unsupportable.
But again – if you have evidence that somebody is spreading out right lies, why would you allow it to be spread on your platform?
I mean; it seems George was caught stealing content & passing it off on their own, then banning from their telegram anyone who asked about it or called them out.
To me the most compelling argument is that the content they posted claiming it to be their own happened to be taken from some site, and they banned when asked about it.
Exactly. If nothing else, this alone cannot be forgiven or explained away. They are fraudsters through and through. Q was always prepared to prove their validity, like when several anons asked for more AF1 pics and they managed to post some that were just seconds apart from the ones they'd posted long before. If GEORGE LARP cannot produce that kind of smackdown rebuttal and instead choose to CENSOR and BAN all dissenting opinions like FASCISTS, then that proves whose side they're REALLY on.
How do we know the other site which isnt mentioned isnt theirs too.
Remember they're under bot attack
If someone came at me like that I would ban them as well.
Think people
I think a lot of the info in that post are circumstantial. Paper.li being a lefty organisation and the companies showcased there all being lefty - thats purely circumstantial. All those are really big companies and clearly they will showcase their biggest customers. And it so happens we are living in a clown era where all big corporates are pandering to the left. This is more a reflection that the entire infrastructure has been infiltrated by the left, than anything else.
Typos, capitalisations, wrong spelling etc really don't bother me as well. So what if they are foreigners.
To me the most compelling argument is that the content they posted claiming it to be their own happened to be taken from some site, and they banned when asked about it.
Looks like they are "temporarily" turning off their comments lol
Great job Evspra! Definitely some questions that need to be answered. I had my doubts about George news when I went on their YT and they were selling shirts among other things. I'm starting to think my gut feeling is right.
As the person which at some moment was supposing it might be reliable I could say: it is hard lesson,but necessary lesson.Good job.
Some conclusions:
(Hosting for such base is another problem,probably we shall go P2P)
2.We have no database or no thread for "facts" and its verification. Not enough verification.No coordination. Just posts on forum we will loose in noise of comments ?
3.Some guys are researching space force material still do something,but because of cleaning cookies regularly i lost crypto key to their room (can log,but only present communication available). Only few people including me were interested,but I had another plan too (now cancelled due to GA.win being invigilated by the press).
What does it show: do we know who is doing research ? Do we appreciate good research ? Do we know we do enough research or do we know if some research was already done and by who ?
** Ok,we ARE lazy ones. Too lazy it seems. After news will notice - and will notice, those George News incident will be used against us - have no doubts. Of course if "the news" would be asked about their "journalism" and methodology - they are not better really. But they will not mention that... They will mention our and only our failure.Question of time.Question of time...
Also: It seems that GeorgeNews was carefully planted. There were users who fucked research about the key or maybe (memory is sometimes flawful) even claimed that "they found nothing on ebay". Claiming localization and so on. Can we track who started those things about GeorgeNews ? No,no database.
No,no real formal list of argument for or against.
New Problems.This thing would cause another problems.
In short: too much trust about questioning everything. While it was indeed advised by Q,treated literally it could be very destructive too.
Some people are angry because they were "only asking questions" and were banned.
The problem is some questions are and will be targetting Q posts and Q to "prove" Q is larp with the target to "dismantle Qanon" (there is no "qanon" but those lie they invented is about targetting us,so I used those their label). While we need research Q as not-artificial meta-meme have no strong defence mechanisms like "ideologies" (other meta-memes) have. For me it proves our "ideology" (too big word for believing Q posts but let's treat that this way) is probably NOT artificial and NOT engineered really (or if would be - then engineered poorly) but it also means those lack of stability which could be used.
While I am just reasonable sceptic who hopes about military action because knows that problems signalled by Q are real, person seeing things that may indicate that indeed there is Q military operation (or perfect show for us - we can never be sure), I could try to unmask some of those things,but I cannot do this all alone. We all should be careful. We need researches done formalised way with sourcing who puts what argument/counterargument, we need it searchable enough or we will have serious trouble.
We all need to check sources
We all need to check what those data means
We all need to be cautious and ask - how those data could affect our behaviour,and would that be good or bad ?
We all need something like "meme warfare center" but not being only about memes but about all propaganda,all media. By the way - some intelligence man and writer from France with Russian ancestors whose daughter served in US diplomacy suggested this idea before memes in internet emerged. I cannot say more about him today,because of his importance,but he advised it when internet was like baby.
Agreed - every piece of evidence Evspra has presented is at best circumstantial. I started to write up a response post but it's a waste of time. Those who think for themselves can easily see how his take on George does not fit the facts.
I am not 100% convinced George News is legit, but many of the conclusions Evpsra draws about them are illogical. His posts read the same as anyone else who has "debunked" George.
As always, the prime directive is to think for yourself.
Came here to at least give this an upvote..
I’m new around here and all but these types of stickies and accusations by mods seems slightly.. off..
Maybe I’m used to my one and only main source QRV and Q posts and not used to this style forum where mods play such an active role..
If anything, there’s a HUGE connection between JFK JR > GEORGE magazine > DJT
Has Q mentioned the GEORGE aspect at all? I will have to search.
I even received a comment here saying that the same publishers who produced TRIGGERED for Don JR are the ones who own George?
Sometimes the threads are a little George heavy, but it’s the same for many other topics, ie the generals and misc tweets by scavino etc.
So what is the consensus on this Telegram anyways? I see so many posts here claiming this and that and it always goes through to telegram which I haven’t made my way onto nor do I know if I will.
I’m a pretty simple man myself, with not the most time in the days for reading and researching SUPER deep but I have done quite well the past 5 years.
Blessed to have followed Q and Trump Storm in context with daily events or i wouldnt even be able to fathom how truly epic and on point they have been every step of the way.
One day hopefully we will have a white hat production on a Hollywood level scale detailing the start of the plan 20+ or however many years ago, to the Vegas massacre, to where we are today. Or at least what Q has and will make public.
whether George is legit or not, I don’t like how it’s now banned from this site because one person said so. This is no better than Twitter with this slippery slope of censorship...
Yeah but what about knowingly spreading fake news & allowing fake news to be spread?
That’s no good either....
And this isn’t just “we don’t like what you are saying, so ban” this is literally they are fucking FAKE LIARS!
I’m super bummed about this because George dropped some good shit.... but then, I was always suspicious that what they were saying was too good to be true....
DAMMIT!!! :-(
Oh don't be a crybaby. At least you're not on your last strike because of one particular mod who is always looking for any opportunity to ban you just because they think you downvote them for no reason constantly.
I got banned by him twice. Then banned for talking shit about him promptly on my return.
Now I have to literally avoid him at all costs or else I'm kicked out permanently :/
Or I can make my last insult worth it lol. Time will tell
Also:
I’m not one of the people that down voted you, for whatever it’s worth.
I definitely agree with your point - any sort of censorship in any form is completely cowardly, communistic, fascist, and totally unsupportable.
But again – if you have evidence that somebody is spreading out right lies, why would you allow it to be spread on your platform?
I mean; it seems George was caught stealing content & passing it off on their own, then banning from their telegram anyone who asked about it or called them out.
What scumbags....
Exactly. If nothing else, this alone cannot be forgiven or explained away. They are fraudsters through and through. Q was always prepared to prove their validity, like when several anons asked for more AF1 pics and they managed to post some that were just seconds apart from the ones they'd posted long before. If GEORGE LARP cannot produce that kind of smackdown rebuttal and instead choose to CENSOR and BAN all dissenting opinions like FASCISTS, then that proves whose side they're REALLY on.
I would make this retro active, for all links
How do we know the other site which isnt mentioned isnt theirs too. Remember they're under bot attack If someone came at me like that I would ban them as well. Think people