Q is a manipulation. Q manipulated us into doing exactly what you said: read, investigate, think, don't rely on others to think for you. This is a manipulation I can get behind.
Q is a PsyOp. You can't win an information war without PsyOps. A PsyOp is really just a manipulation on a large scale. It was intended to wake up an entire planets population. It was among the largest PsyOps ever.
Q is the counterspell to the Luciferian sleeping spell most people were under.
ThankQ for manipulating me to not trust authority figures and think for myself.
Manipulation implies getting someone to do something they would normally be opposed to in a way where they don't realize what you're doing.
If Q has gotten anyone to do anything, it was NOT something they would normally be opposed to.
And while the 'don't realize' part of manipulation can sometimes be difficult to identify because by its nature it has to be subtle, Q hasn't really gotten anyone to do anything at all. What it has done is gotten a group of people to start doing their own research and paying attention to events around the world. And just as importantly, to share those with each other. In fact, the best way to pull off the 'don't realize' part of the manipulation is to isolate people so they can't compare notes and realize they are being played. Q seems to have encouraged people to do the exact opposite, share their findings.
Manipulation is bad because it subverts people's free wills. Q simply has not done that. It seems to have just enabled and encouraged a group of people to do something they would have wanted to be doing anyways.
Manipulation implies getting someone to do something they would normally be opposed to in a way where they don't realize what you're doing.
I disagree on two counts.
Manipulation is better defined as getting someone to do something they would otherwise not do. No negative connotation is necessary.
I think you are correct even with the negative connotation. Many who were asleep were not disposed to think for themselves. They were highly motivated to not do so in fact, by their beliefs. Their beliefs were going to doom all humanity for all eternity and were in all ways based on lies. I have zero problem with that manipulation. As for not "realizing what they are doing," almost no one realized what was going on in the beginning. That was the whole point. Exposure, for those who had reasons to not allow themselves to be exposed to the truth, was exactly the point of Q.
What it has done is gotten a group of people to start doing their own research and paying attention to events around the world. And just as importantly, to share those with each other.
This makes zero sense following:
Q hasn't really gotten anyone to do anything at all.
In fact, I would say Q manipulated a huge group of people to do the most important thing that humanity has ever done in perhaps its entire history: wake the fuck up.
In fact, the best way to pull off the 'don't realize' part of the manipulation is to isolate people so they can't compare notes and realize they are being played.
Here you go again thinking manipulation has to be for nefarious goals. Why do you associate that word with evil? There is no definition of the word that requires it. Why do you?
Lets clear up this issue and look at the definition:
to manage or influence skillfully, especially in an unfair manner.
to handle, manage, or use, especially with skill, in some process of treatment or performance:
to adapt or change (accounts, figures, etc.) to suit one's purpose or advantage.
Medicine/Medical. to examine or treat by skillful use of the hands, as in palpation, reduction of dislocations, or changing the position of a fetus.
The only definition that even tries to make it negative is number 1. In that case it says "especially in an unfair manner". Especially says "more often than not, this has negative connotations when used in this manner" however, "especially" does not mean necessarily. In other words, you can use that word perfectly fine without the negative connotation and remain within the bounds of the definition.
Manipulation is bad because it subverts people's free wills.
You cannot subvert someone's free will, you can only convince them to not use it; they always retain it. Convincing is an act of both parties agreeing to something, even if one party refuses to allow themselves to recognize it consciously. Q absolutely convinced me to go against my nature, and I did not at first consciously recognize that I was being convinced of that. Q convinced me to think for myself; something I spent my whole life not doing, even though I really thought I was.
Even IF it’s all a larp, it’s still more fun and entertaining to follow it with a glimmer of hope and faith, than just rolling over and spreading wide for dementia joe and his long dick of communism.
Lol The only "manipulation" that encourages us to think and research into the elites of the world for ourselves. Q mentioned Epstein before anyone knew who he was. Q and Trump left breadcrumbs to the NXVII sex cult as well.
For a "psyop" it sure keeps exposing the secrets of the elites and encourages us to think for ourselves instead of being sound asleep and just listening to what the MSM says.
Who has benefited from ppl believing in Q and who has suffered??? MSM slams Q every chance they get. Why if it's something they would want us to believe in? It makes zero sense to wake people up to what's going on behind the scenes when many of us were sound asleep.
I couldn't finish because he was getting sidetracked. I do share his hesitancy to trust Donald Trump and the plan. Controlled opposition is a real thing. While it does seem like the deep state would never want someone like Trump, we can't underestimate what we are up against. They might have seen things differently. If you simply look at the results that we have right now, it looks bleak. The lefties are psychotic, and the normies are dead asleep. Many Trump voters are talking about 2024. So, yeah. But I can also look at what's happening and see how there could possibly be a plan. I just don't want to get complacent and expect it. I hope people are ready for Plan B's, getting involved locally. We are really in deep trouble as a nation. This isn't good.
Devil’s advocate should tell you everything you want to know. Why take a position you don’t believe in for the sake of argument? Why not just voice what you believe honestly?
Being able to argue the opposing viewpoint improves both your knowledge of said viewpoint AND your own ability to argue against it. Side bonus is those of us who hear both sides learn to combat the opposing side better too.
When people argue against Q (Not implying that you do) they don’t have facts, reason or logic on their side.they say Q is a LARP, PsyOp, etc. they don’t want proof. Any open minded, common sense individual can read the Q drops and begin to research. People who follow Q have left the hive mind.
I liked the video, and I like this discussion, because we have to be capable of analyzing all opinions and logic behind them, without resorting to verbal blows.
The poster of the video thinks that if Q and Trump were good guys, they would not allow the bad guys to get away with more and more harm. The anons think that evil events are necessary to show people that the evil agenda does not ultimately work.
I think we have an interregnum situation and we are not sure who is ultimately in charge, so allow the highest spiritual powers to guide us. It is Spring. Grow crops. Honor life. Create beauty. Nurture and praise the gifts we have been given here.
I am of the opinion that we shouldn't have organ transplants and it may seen like a weird stance but Idk it just seems unnatural, for instance prince charels just had a heart transplant.. how many is that now?
I agree with you but I think it's good to confront ourselves with the Q "debunkers" in order to debunk them. I noticed that the anons are very rational, precise and don't fear debates, which shows they are the opposite of a cult.
Q is a manipulation. Q manipulated us into doing exactly what you said: read, investigate, think, don't rely on others to think for you. This is a manipulation I can get behind.
Q is a PsyOp. You can't win an information war without PsyOps. A PsyOp is really just a manipulation on a large scale. It was intended to wake up an entire planets population. It was among the largest PsyOps ever.
Q is the counterspell to the Luciferian sleeping spell most people were under.
ThankQ for manipulating me to not trust authority figures and think for myself.
Manipulation implies getting someone to do something they would normally be opposed to in a way where they don't realize what you're doing.
If Q has gotten anyone to do anything, it was NOT something they would normally be opposed to.
And while the 'don't realize' part of manipulation can sometimes be difficult to identify because by its nature it has to be subtle, Q hasn't really gotten anyone to do anything at all. What it has done is gotten a group of people to start doing their own research and paying attention to events around the world. And just as importantly, to share those with each other. In fact, the best way to pull off the 'don't realize' part of the manipulation is to isolate people so they can't compare notes and realize they are being played. Q seems to have encouraged people to do the exact opposite, share their findings.
Manipulation is bad because it subverts people's free wills. Q simply has not done that. It seems to have just enabled and encouraged a group of people to do something they would have wanted to be doing anyways.
I disagree on two counts.
This makes zero sense following:
In fact, I would say Q manipulated a huge group of people to do the most important thing that humanity has ever done in perhaps its entire history: wake the fuck up.
Here you go again thinking manipulation has to be for nefarious goals. Why do you associate that word with evil? There is no definition of the word that requires it. Why do you?
Lets clear up this issue and look at the definition:
The only definition that even tries to make it negative is number 1. In that case it says "especially in an unfair manner". Especially says "more often than not, this has negative connotations when used in this manner" however, "especially" does not mean necessarily. In other words, you can use that word perfectly fine without the negative connotation and remain within the bounds of the definition.
You cannot subvert someone's free will, you can only convince them to not use it; they always retain it. Convincing is an act of both parties agreeing to something, even if one party refuses to allow themselves to recognize it consciously. Q absolutely convinced me to go against my nature, and I did not at first consciously recognize that I was being convinced of that. Q convinced me to think for myself; something I spent my whole life not doing, even though I really thought I was.
If that isn't manipulation, I don't know what is.
Ok I agree with you. Q revealed too much. A psyop would keep us confused or in the dark.
Even IF it’s all a larp, it’s still more fun and entertaining to follow it with a glimmer of hope and faith, than just rolling over and spreading wide for dementia joe and his long dick of communism.
You don't turn on the lights when you're trying to do something in the dark
Excellent analogy.
Beautifully said
Good argument
Lol The only "manipulation" that encourages us to think and research into the elites of the world for ourselves. Q mentioned Epstein before anyone knew who he was. Q and Trump left breadcrumbs to the NXVII sex cult as well.
For a "psyop" it sure keeps exposing the secrets of the elites and encourages us to think for ourselves instead of being sound asleep and just listening to what the MSM says.
Who has benefited from ppl believing in Q and who has suffered??? MSM slams Q every chance they get. Why if it's something they would want us to believe in? It makes zero sense to wake people up to what's going on behind the scenes when many of us were sound asleep.
I couldn't finish because he was getting sidetracked. I do share his hesitancy to trust Donald Trump and the plan. Controlled opposition is a real thing. While it does seem like the deep state would never want someone like Trump, we can't underestimate what we are up against. They might have seen things differently. If you simply look at the results that we have right now, it looks bleak. The lefties are psychotic, and the normies are dead asleep. Many Trump voters are talking about 2024. So, yeah. But I can also look at what's happening and see how there could possibly be a plan. I just don't want to get complacent and expect it. I hope people are ready for Plan B's, getting involved locally. We are really in deep trouble as a nation. This isn't good.
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Devil’s advocate should tell you everything you want to know. Why take a position you don’t believe in for the sake of argument? Why not just voice what you believe honestly?
Being able to argue the opposing viewpoint improves both your knowledge of said viewpoint AND your own ability to argue against it. Side bonus is those of us who hear both sides learn to combat the opposing side better too.
I don't believe Q is a fraud, I just want to confront with opposite points of views, to learn to reason and to argue against it.
When people argue against Q (Not implying that you do) they don’t have facts, reason or logic on their side.they say Q is a LARP, PsyOp, etc. they don’t want proof. Any open minded, common sense individual can read the Q drops and begin to research. People who follow Q have left the hive mind.
I liked the video, and I like this discussion, because we have to be capable of analyzing all opinions and logic behind them, without resorting to verbal blows. The poster of the video thinks that if Q and Trump were good guys, they would not allow the bad guys to get away with more and more harm. The anons think that evil events are necessary to show people that the evil agenda does not ultimately work. I think we have an interregnum situation and we are not sure who is ultimately in charge, so allow the highest spiritual powers to guide us. It is Spring. Grow crops. Honor life. Create beauty. Nurture and praise the gifts we have been given here.
I think he's a sleeper faggot shill
What are you even talking about?
I am of the opinion that we shouldn't have organ transplants and it may seen like a weird stance but Idk it just seems unnatural, for instance prince charels just had a heart transplant.. how many is that now?
I agree with you but I think it's good to confront ourselves with the Q "debunkers" in order to debunk them. I noticed that the anons are very rational, precise and don't fear debates, which shows they are the opposite of a cult.