I've seen both opinions among people who are awake.
By now, we've all heard the claims that COVID-19 has never been isolated (e.g., see recent lawsuit against the CDC, and also, someone contacted all of the Canadian health authorities & received emails back from each saying they don't have it).
Another argument for it being the seasonal flu: Where has the flu gone? Particularly in Sweden, which has fewer restrictions to "limit the spread of the flu, while allowing COVID-19 to spread" (which is a rather ridiculous explanation).
I've heard one explanation for this, which I don't have the medical expertise to know whether it was true. It goes like this: "there have been occasions in the past where viruses effectively turn off when another virus in the environment becomes dominant, and, these viruses sometimes never return". The implications being, COVID-19 has caused the seasonal flu to become dormant. This does not seem to be consistent with the recent lawsuit against the CDC.
The other explanation is that some, most, or all of the seasonal flu cases are being counted as COVID-19 cases, thus, inflating the number of COVID-19 cases. This scenario does not strictly rule out the possibility that both viruses exist, but, in the case that COVID-19 does indeed exist, it suggests that COVID-19 is less common than we have been led to believe by the MSM.
Taking all of this into account, and a few more points, I'm still of the belief that COVID-19 exists, but, is greatly exaggerated.
Here's two further reasons I have doubts about it not existing:
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Believing that it is simply the seasonal flu, everywhere, would require believing that health officials and politicians world wide are all in on the cover up, at least in some capacity. I realize they are good at covering things up, and, censorship, but, the number of people who would know about the cover up would be rather large by now & it seems rather unlikely that this many people would be silenced and/or going along with this. Leaks and whistle blowers would probably be somewhat common, given the scale of this.
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As I currently understand it, COVID-19 is not particularly dangerous, but, for older folks, is a bit more deadly than the seasonal flu (2-4x). Unless these numbers are inflated to that level, this implies that COVID-19 and the seasonal flu are different viruses, because, well, they have different mortality rates (at least for some age groups)
Granted, it is in the realm of possibility that I don't have all of the information, that I simply have not dug into this enough yet, or, that there simply is not enough of the information available yet.
Curious where everyone else stands on this and why.
Somebody posted this earlier: scientist and colleagues from 7 other universities sues the CDC because they ran tests against 1,500 supposedly positive COVID samples, but every test came back positive for influenza A or B. Not a single test actually tested positive for COVID. https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/?fbclid=IwAR0X1vgeRbfiq1wubHdq6mV73I7Y_QwnG72imHP46qhWwil3-LoMAIr_sxo
Indeed, this is the lawsuit against the CDC I refer to. That leads me to believe that it is far more rare than we have been told.
It really has me on the fence on this issue, but, I still find it hard to reconcile that with the other points raised above.
And I should have read your whole post lol, sorry for not doing my due diligence.
Oh I had figured you did, but, I wasn't clear enough in what I meant. No worries!
That post was a rehashing of a previous round of posts by the same person (Derek Knauss) for whom I could find no evidence of existing. The rest of that link was also rehashing of apparently disinformation. The only thing new was the "lawsuit". However, I couldn't find the lawsuit. Does anyone have a link to an actual lawsuit making these claims?
Its just a flu many have already said that. Its influenza A and B that they are getting on their test results but forced to call it covid. By the way there is no such thing as seasonal flu. Flu is year round its just in the spring and summer most dont get it do to being in the Sun and getting plenty of vitamin D in the fall and winter no one is out that is why the flu is worse then.
In the US, your argument would hold. Why are Italy and Brazil so heavily affected by this? Their health can't be worse than ours. Granted, Italy has a higher avg age, but they're also a more robust people (the natives). I just wonder if it is a flu virus that was manipulated (Wuhan) to make it more virulent, or else reacts to 'something' that is already present in our bodies that most 1st world countries would be exposed - vaccine residue from previous vaccines? (polio, MMR, etc)? or fluoridated water? African countries have never had the big 'hit' that the scientists were expecting, and they've discounted the 'not enough testing' hypothesis.
Most people want to keep their jobs including doctors scientists and microbiologists. Thats why they go along. Even the SS who tortured people including children were just doing their jobs.
When is the last time you knew someone that caught a common cold?
Covid-19 is a coronavirus, which the common cold is also a coronavirus. They would both give a positive result on the test. However, Covid-19 generates $Thousands to a doctor for treatment, where a common cold only pays maybe $50 to diagnose and treat. That money difference makes it clear why nobody ever gets the common cold anymore.
IMO COVID-19 does exist but isn't as prevalent or very deadly because it is made in China. That doesn't mean they won't get better at creating more easily transmitted and deadly viruses but they didn't do a very good job on this one.
Idk. It worked well enough to get mail in voting, which got Trump out of DC for now.
It did, I was surprised the masses fell for such a light "pandemic" but I'm not surprised anymore, as there are people wearing masks and shields in swimming pools, effectively waterboarding themselves. The DS actors are laughing their asses off at what they can make them do.
Right, most stuff made in china is crap
I am under the impression that Fauci was working on a process called “gain of function “ that takes a virus and makes it more lethal. And that he holds patents on many anti viral drugs. Explains why he is the “expert”.
He and others high up in the government health associations hold patents on the mRNA vaccines.
This sounds like a load of horseshit to me. There may be some truth that one virus can suppress another by virtue of the idea that if a person gets one virus and dies to it, they won't be getting the other that would have also killed them. In this case the one that spreads more rapidly would be dominant.
However, to extend that to "complete" domination is ludicrous. The virus that has been around for hundreds of years (or longer) didn't disappear. It has never been gone. It cycles for several reasons, including our diet, but you can get the flu for example at any time in the year.
In the case of Covid v. the flu, Evidence suggests both occurred. Evidence also suggests that all flu cases were (intentionally) misdiagnosed as covid cases.
It's a psy-op.
It's both a cold and flu and nothing at all. Basically any death or case that is looks vaguely like it, if you squint real funny and have a triple of whiskey first, gets counted as covid. The tests were setup to give false positives so everything tested positive.
COVID19 isn't real. It never had to be.
IMO it’s the flu plus a heavy dose of MSM propaganda. The cover up as you call it is easier done than you think. Do you notice like I did that the doctors are told what to do by the WHO and CDC? Use and vent for example. Don’t use HCQ. Use this test, don’t use that one. It makes it so they don’t think. It’s the “protocol” they said. They use the PCR test. They get money. They don’t care to look further. And the ones who did, who did speak up and were whistle blowers lost their medical license or were called science deniers. Frontline doctors for example. Nothing has come to light that has changed my mind. The CDC getting sued is a perfect example. Where is the virus? Why wont they share it with other labs to confirm? There’s the cover up!
I have always believed that it was a serious case of the flu. Politicized, over hyped, and under treated because well meaning doctors were bullied into believing it was something it was not.
I support this conclusion with two facts.
1st, the number of deaths reportedly caused by covid were very close to the number of deaths attributed to flu in prior years.
2nd, the number of seasonal flu cases reported have all but stopped during the covid scare.
Fauci has been exposed as a lying hack, and viable, working treatments were surpressed, (HCQ, Ivermectin, Zink, Vitamin D) so that the public would remain in fear and comply.
The original plan was to crash the TRUMP economy, since that was his strongest achievement that affected all Americans. But as the "15 days to flatten the curve" evolved other bad actors and global socialists jumped in to keep up the pressure on the people and the free-market economy.
We are now ripe for communist take over and China is working as hard and as fast as they can with out actually placing troups in our country.
4 things make me feel convinced Covid was a unique entity but it may not be.
https://youtu.be/XMJ0EmMfb3U
https://youtu.be/_q3iP2Dwr88
https://youtu.be/VSnSmPGh1Ac
https://youtu.be/UIDsKdeFOmQ
Do people really get hospitalized with the flu that much? Fluid filling lungs?
I asked this earlier in response to all the news coming out. So hard to tell what to believe.
I thought for a while that corona was exaggerated but now based on more and more reading I am coming to the conclusion it does not exist.
There can be only one.
It was like a weak cold for me last spring, not even flu level. I usually get leveled by one of those once a year or so. About the only good part of this pandemic was not catching the ACTUAL flu this past winter.
is it so wrong I wouldn't mind covid again over some vicious flu that last two weeks?