If this is true, then Trump has fooled everyone, including his base. Given what we know about Freemasons and what their intentions are, and certain phrases, I am inclined to believe we are headed to a destination which the bible describes in revelations. Phrases that Q used "from darkness to light" are used during freemason initiations. Just food for thought. Downvote me if you like, I just want some people to consider the possibility that we are all being played by the same people. Lets have an honest conversation.
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The thing is..Before Trump most people had complete trust in the goverment. Now not so much. Why would they do this to them selfs? Why make people think they are pedophiles and traitors? To fool who? Me and you? Whats the point?
Bingo
Really hoping you are wrong!
Me too. What you say makes sense.
I was thoroughly blackpilled after Ron Paul lost the Republican primaries in 2012 due to obvious rigging and nothing was done about it. I stopped paying attention until covid shutdowns and now I'm on the GAW train. It would've been much better for them to have Jeb win and keep me blackpilled.
This is the "end game". Read the Protocols. When the diseased temple is no longer sustainable thanks to decades/centuries of debauchery, they step aside and let the sheeple blame it all on Fill_In_The_Blank political party, government agency, corporation, etc. All the while, the real perpetrators slink away scot-free, as they've done thousands of times since time immemorial.
Before the antichrist system can be installed, the system we live in must first be destroyed.
To do that, you have to show where the vulnerabilities and compromisation lies in the current system.
Just my two cents on this hypothetical subject.
You're going off the premise that the Freemasons are evil.
I'm going off the premise that the Freemasons were infiltrated.
Originally the Freemasons were holders of secrete knowledge, stolen from the Catholic Church. The C.C. labeled them as heresy and slowly infiltrated them.
You are right. I have my reasons to believe freemasons are evil, if you dig some and draw the parallels between the satanic temples and freemasom temples you may change your mind. From the outset, the knight templars were using mystics and witchcraft to comunicate with demons.
From what I've seen of the Knight Templars, it seems the French king, Philip IV, who owed a lot of money to the Templars, had them killed to kill off his debts. He was part of the group to come up with stories about how they were involved with demons. I don't believe it. I think it was said to destroy their reputation in order to destroy them completely. Not sure about the Free Masons, but I bet, like anything, there are some good and bad ones involved. I've seen nothing bad about Trump vs. the deep state/ cabal. Any enemy of them is a friend of mine.
as if you know anything about the subject if you just start talking bullshit about Trump being one based on NOTHING
Not talking bullshit about Trump. Im not affirming he is a Freemason, I am saying we need to consider the posibility. What I am affirming is freemason are evil. That is 100% what I am saying.
Thats exactly what the C.C. wants you to believe. The Knights Templar were mostly massacred by the French King who was deeply in debt to the C.C. Some of the K.T. escaped to the Americas with some or most of the knowledge. Most of the Founding Fathers were freemasons.
They demonize the FM so you will disregard the hidden knowledge.
They terrify you in order for you not to question their approved religious doctrine.
If you're afraid to question your religious views, you're in a Cult.
The apocryphal texts should be the first ones to read in my opinion.
The bible is highly edited by the C.C., full of mistranslations along with lies and truth.
The nature of the hidden knowledge, I know it in broad brush. It is something I reject with my soul.
This is what I know about that hidden knowledge:
Satan is god Jesus is the oppresor We are currently in hell Satan is good because he does not care if we sin, therefore there is no burden. Jesus is bad, because he made apparent our sin, so he needs to be rejected. Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected. There is ways to comunicate with the fallen angels.
Do you honestly think they would allow the true knowledge be known to the masses?
Im not sure where you info is referenced from, but Im sure thats not the true hidden knowledge.
Why would the C.C. continue to teach Jesus if he was the truth?
Their version of Jesus requires you to eat his flesh and drink his blood, does that sound right to you? That is ritualistic cannibalism.
There are other accounts of Jesus that the C.C. eradicated. The Gnostics do teach that this is an evil world created by an evil god. Jesus' wife Sofia created an abomination and that abomination is the evil god Yaldabaoth that created this world. Jesus is attempting to save Sofia and mankind. We are here as a learning experience, "To know good and evil".
"Do this in rememberance of me". The blood sacrifice is real, that is why temars used it, because they wanted control over what Jesus did in the cross. The last supper was the practice of passover which was in practice way before Jesus. So yeah, no. Jesus was not talking about consuming his flesh. He was saying His flesh was gonna be torned, which it was.
Where in the bible is this written?
Or is this your/your preachers interpretation?
John6:
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them
Interpretation means his flesh is real food. Its food for the soul. Nobody ate his flesh in literal sense.
It is written in Isaiah, Zacharia, Jeremiah. Starting in genesis through through Adam, through the promises and covenant to Abraham, all the way to the last supper.
No. That's stuff that they call the hidden knowledge is exactly what I oppose, that comes straight from the father of lies. Jesus is truth, without Him, we dont have access to the father.
So you think that Trump is a Freemason and Freemasons are evil?
I don't know what proof you have that Trump is a Freemason.
There is no doubt that our true history is being hid from us, but it started way before the Freemasons. I would say Akhenaten may have been the start.
There's no doubt the Freemasons of FDR were a shell for the D.S. and most of the lower ranking FMs are ignorant.
I just realized I have two convo's. going on in this thread, sorry for any confusion.
I do agree with you, the FM now are evil or benign. I don't think Trump is one or if he is/was it was to infiltrate them for some reason. There are many offshoots to the DS and it's possible that they still use the FM as a front. I believe the Founding Fathers were on the side of good and you may be correct in think the FMs were taken over before the Civil War.
As far as a global catastrophe, I think it will be positive global change, the veil will be lifted and we will know the truth.
Dark to light is used by a lot of people including churches. Trump did way too much good for America for him to be anything other than a patriot.
I think you just have to look back at Trumps life..Look back at this family's history and i think you will find that there is very small chance Donald Trump is a traitor..If he is, well then it won't matter because then America is already dead. Donald Trump is in my mind part of the land..Like King Arthur. He is the embodiment of the power-house America is suppose to be, and the face of the American dream as hes for-father was during the gold rush. If he is all larp America died along time ago and you are just living in a empty shell of past glory.
And i think the above is why they truly hate him so much. I think a lot of these people around the globe. selling out their own countries for cash and glory always wanted the kind of life Trump has and the admiration the people had for him during the 80's,90's. To dare to be the leader, and to naturally be in charge in any moment. They try to fool so many all their life's to be in charge, but persons like Donald Trump was born to be in charge.
All their control, their trillions in wealth,beauty and cheer power..Non if it could get them what they truly wanted and it was the acceptance and admiration of the people without brainwashing and fear mongering. Since when did a crowd scream "WE LOVE YOU"" to a politician in mass?
Interesting view, and something I’ve wondered about. Until I watched the videos from a lady named Jessie Czeboter. She was born into the Illuminati, but managed to escape their grasp. Now is telling her story, at considerable peril b/c there have been attempts on her life. She has said more than once that Trump was definitely a white hat. I believe her.
Cathy O'Brien says the same thing.
https://trance-formation.com/trump-one-of-us/
You’re right, I’ve listened to her. Currently listening to Deborah Williams, she says the same things.
https://youtu.be/H9BEsXE19cU
If that were the case, wouldn't he have advocated for Civil War? Pushing the vaccines definitely confuses me though. I can't say I am even one bit happy that he's doing that; really displeased me.
Me too. That is the one and only thing that makes me second guess his intentions.
What are you fake news trying to spread lies and rumors. This is how it starts... get proof or shut up rumor mill
I have no proof. I am not affirming nor denying. I am simy questioning.
Not considering all possibilities or viewing different perspectives is ridiculous and diminishes the chances of advancement. I came across this a while back and it has since been constantly in the back of my mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyop0d30UqQ It's worth a shalow dive at the least.
Watch how he shakes the hands of other known Freemasons. They don't give the obligatory Freemason handshake when greeting POTUS Trump. So, he's DEFINITELY NOT a Freemason.
The correct people hate him so that puts Trump on the right side of history ??
Very possible. This has been researched since pizzagate, and I still do not know if Trump is a Freemason. People have said that there are two groups in Freemasonry, light and dark, and this is a world-wide civil war. Other people have pointed out the Chabad connection through Jared and Ivanka.
Yes, we could all be being played using the Hegelian dialectic. I am not sure how this will all play out, but they fear that the normies will wake up.
I started watching the Fall of the Cabal sequel this week, and one of the first things I wondered was: what are the chances that this cabal/these families would go all of these centuries without splintering due to internal power struggles?
Let's not forget that just as the cabal has operated behind the scenes there has also been a benevolent secret group working towards the betterment of humanity.
Light workers, and maybe the Brotherhood of The White Temple. Among other groups I'm sure.
I see your sentiment and to a certain point I agree, but that would require me to trust humanity. If that's the case, remember dems also fight for the betterment of humanity, and I don't trust them as far as I can thow one.
Think about how long he has been in the public limelight. What is it, like 50 plus years? And most of those years there would have been no reason for him to hide he was a Freemason. Have you ever met a Freemason who tries to hide it. They wear the ring, They’re active and very public about the charitable work of their lodge. Has anyone seen President Trump do any of that?
Do you have anything else other than "From darkness to light" to point to Trump being a freemason?
That's a good question. If you refer to pictures or things physical evidence, no. I am just questioning my thoughts, I dont want to follow blindly. Only God is who I want to follow blindly. There are certain tbings about how FM operate that wouldnlead me to think Trump was one of them. How the problems are set, the mirror double headed eagle. One group presents the problem, the others are the saviours, but both are of the same body, same goal.
In the past, Trump was believed to be a Freemason but nothing came of it.
When I was growing up 50's and 60's Masonry was very popular! My Grandfather was a Mason and my Grandmother was a Eastern Star! They never made a big thing about any of it, but my Grandfather did where a Masonic ring! My Grandfather had a Masonic Funeral and I attended! Nothing unusual!
There's two separate levels in terms of misticism that involves masonry.
if you want honest conversation, then prove it
You are obviously missing the point.
Freemasons are divided as equally as the common man in covid, and in politics. They are much like gaw and reddit combined. Truth seekers. Divided by life experiences that led them left or right. never forget. USA was freed by them to start a free land. Frances revolution was started by them. Maybe failed because of napoleon? Right now. The pyop is working on them too. Leaving them divided unable to group think and help the masses. Which in their code is to do! Help thy fellow man via honor virtue and mercy. IMO. Freemasonry is a non issue in today's day and age. Irrelevant when talking power structures. And I literally eye roll when I see it come up.
Yess would love to have this convo. Have heard this a lot. Love 45 but still want to be reasonable
Of course you have, handshake homo.
Lol omg again! Every time I comment. How does this encourage new people to join the sub?
To be fair, I dont have any physical evidence that Trump is a Freemason, just exploring that possibility could lead us to a whole new understanding. If we see the freemason symbology and understand their tactics (create a problem, find guilty party, offer a solution to the problem, gain power and trust) we can maybe start seeing things in a different light. Maybe (and I hope) Trump is legit, but if he is not, we havre to be ready for what might come, because that would mean nothing can stop what is coming.
so why not prove it before "exploring the possibility"
Because troll.
Because in order to prove something, first you explore the possibility, otherwise you cant prove anything. Its logical thinking.
I respect this view and the discussion. And i think its wise and healthy to be open to all possibilities. We are not mindless sheep. Trump is great untill he's not great. But ive been thinking about this alot and i dont see the logical explanation for Trump to be all larp. If you have a population that trusts you blindly when you are the most evil fucks in history why fuck it up?
The way freemasons see us is, we are disposable and we exist in excess, so we dont matter.
We are either led by Freemasons that follow Natural Law, like our Forefathers, or ruled over by corrupted ones that follow Lucifer. I dont think we can do much better in this age of Kali Yuga.
The natural law of the freemasons goes against the Law of God, at every step of the way.
In the end there is only truth or lies. Jesus is truth. Everything else is a lie.