I'm having a difficult time justifying two different "invisible" wavelengths. Are there two different watermarks? What would UVA reveal that UVB would not and vise versa?
I look forward to finding out why the UV spectrum is being used in this audit.
Have an increasing number of people that I know that are directly involved with this audit.
In fact I was offered a position for $25 an hour working on it today however I have a weed felony from about 10 years ago so I'm not even eligible to vote and I told them to check and make sure that's not going to be an issue before I accept the job because it does include a background check.
I make a significant amount more than that but I would gladly sit there for minimum wage and count ballots if they let me
You should try and get that felony expunged. In my state, once you have finished your sentence and prob parole, you get your voting rights back, which is the way it should be. You shouldn't lost that right for the rest of your life unless you are in prison or on prob/parole for that time.
Former forensics guy here.
While I've always questioned the watermarks story, there are a lot of pen inks that fluoresce or reflect UV light differently than printer ink or toner.
It's one technique to figure out what bubbles are printed vs. filled by hand, if marks were made by different pens on the same ballot, things like that. A quick UV pass looking for bright visual anomalies is a pretty effective triage technique, even if there are no watermarks embedded in the paper.
I have a vague memory of Dr Steve Pieczenik speaking about the watermarks shortly after the election. His statement was that the watermarks on the legitimate ballots were made using a radioactive ink, and were thereby easily identified. It sounded strange at the time, which is the reason it stuck in my mind. But after looking up the definition of fluorescence just now, his statement makes more sense:
fluo·res·cence: the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
If I remember correctly it wasn't just that they had watermarks. It was that they had blockchain watermarks that could not be duplicated. I'm VERY curious to see if this is the case.
I think the blockchain voting comes in this next election that'll be conducted by the military later this year after all the fraud and validating this one comes out.
You wouldn't need blockchain tech embedded into the watermark to invalidate fake ballots this time around because the fake ballads don't have UV active parts on them whatsoever.
I call complete, LARP BS on that. I heard it thrown out there too, but I can't remember who said it. Not only does that claim make zero sense technically, it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what blockchain is or how it works and why.
To explain:
Historically, searching and retrieving information was done via a database. Databases are highly efficient at doing this task, but are generally centralized and therefore under control of a single entity. That leads to perceived weaknesses, like that records could be altered and integrity compromised because of the single source of control, or a single point of failure could cause that database to be unavailable. So, blockchain was invented to address these concerns.
Blockchain is an entirely electronic, decentralized, and cryptographically secured datastore that provides record integrity (proof the record hasn't been changed) and non-repudiation (knowing who changed it and when). The decentralized nature of BC grants 24x7x365 availability, and there is no single point of failure. Confidentiality (visibility of the record's data) is optional and dependent on the implementation. Furthermore, each block (record) is cryptographically signed and made immutable- any changes to the record's data must be done in a new block and linked to the original block. That gives a complete chain of custody and audit trail throughout the life of the block, and any illicit changes to a block's data can be reconstructed by its descendants.
Following me so far?
Watermarks are physical 'stamps' that can be used to track and trace a physical object. They are regarded as immutable in their own right, so no need to provide integrity via an external method. Ballots in this case are physical- not electronic. There is no linkage to the data on the ballot to the record used to track serialized watermarks. There is also no accounting for the physical delivery of that piece of paper beyond the first destination after the watermark was recorded.
The only way this blockchain watermark crap becomes useful is if Dominion, in reality, are the good guys; and Eric Coooooomer is a white hat.
Those electronic voting machines would have had to been rebuilt to scan ballots with both UV light to pick up the serialized watermark, record the data, and enter it into the non-public blockchain supposedly created for this.
I give the chances of that a zero point zero, Mister Blutarsky.
Did CISA create a blockchain to record watermarked serials? Maybe.But would make zero sense.
Does it help the audit or to prove vote counts? No, it can't.
Does it prove the contents of a watermarked ballot is false? Nope.
Can it track changes to the data on a ballot? Uh-uh. Nyet.
Can it figure out if a ballot was fraudulently created? Not really, unless every ballot were watermarked. But that's just a database search to see if the serial exists and it's uniquely counted- a problem solved efficiently with a database, not a blockchain.
This is kind of a simple explanation, and I may not be 100% correct. But the idea is they are in a mathematic sequence based on an encryption key. If you try to forge a watermark based on blockchain it won't match the sequence. I believe that when you scan it as being legit you have to have the encryption key. This is all based off of what Dr. Steve Pieczenik reported days after the election. If anyone has any better explanation please correct me.
You’re basically correct, although the tech is much more powerful than people understand. It can easily build a fraud-free voting system IMO.
To take a closer look at you’re example, the real “engine” that drives this tech is the “blockchain”. Its basically a ledger stored on computers called “miners”. Each “change” to the ledger is verified by the miners and is written into the blockchain. It’s incredibly secure and allows for all types of uses; both good and evil. Vaccine passports based on blockchain tech would be a nightmare come true for the DS. Although some speculate that a quantum computer has broken 256bit encryption (blockchains use 256bit), I’m highly skeptical of this. Even if this were true, that same quantum computer would be able to create “quantum level encryption”. By the time quantum encryption is broken, the human race will have either been uploaded into the matrix or killed off by AI. ?
Well, I believe that HE believes what he says. I have a high level of respect for anyone willing to go on record and not post anonymously as a source. I don't believe in anonymous sources. That being said, he very well could be controlled opposition.
I still think Steve Pieczenik is still BS. They booted him off Alex Jones and he kept datefagging. It was literally after I called Owen Troyer out on it on parler.
I'm literally shaking right now....
Shaking with glee that the audit is in good hands.
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I'm having a difficult time justifying two different "invisible" wavelengths. Are there two different watermarks? What would UVA reveal that UVB would not and vise versa?
I look forward to finding out why the UV spectrum is being used in this audit.
Have an increasing number of people that I know that are directly involved with this audit.
In fact I was offered a position for $25 an hour working on it today however I have a weed felony from about 10 years ago so I'm not even eligible to vote and I told them to check and make sure that's not going to be an issue before I accept the job because it does include a background check.
I make a significant amount more than that but I would gladly sit there for minimum wage and count ballots if they let me
You should try and get that felony expunged. In my state, once you have finished your sentence and prob parole, you get your voting rights back, which is the way it should be. You shouldn't lost that right for the rest of your life unless you are in prison or on prob/parole for that time.
They are hanging $10k in "restitution" over my head for ME having drugs. As an addict I was the victims not the state.
Not for the amount that I had I can't.
Now that it's legal this might be easier to overcome. Colorado eventually tossed all old cases, I think.
Former forensics guy here. While I've always questioned the watermarks story, there are a lot of pen inks that fluoresce or reflect UV light differently than printer ink or toner.
It's one technique to figure out what bubbles are printed vs. filled by hand, if marks were made by different pens on the same ballot, things like that. A quick UV pass looking for bright visual anomalies is a pretty effective triage technique, even if there are no watermarks embedded in the paper.
I have a vague memory of Dr Steve Pieczenik speaking about the watermarks shortly after the election. His statement was that the watermarks on the legitimate ballots were made using a radioactive ink, and were thereby easily identified. It sounded strange at the time, which is the reason it stuck in my mind. But after looking up the definition of fluorescence just now, his statement makes more sense:
fluo·res·cence: the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
I think you nailed it.
If I remember correctly it wasn't just that they had watermarks. It was that they had blockchain watermarks that could not be duplicated. I'm VERY curious to see if this is the case.
I think the blockchain voting comes in this next election that'll be conducted by the military later this year after all the fraud and validating this one comes out.
You wouldn't need blockchain tech embedded into the watermark to invalidate fake ballots this time around because the fake ballads don't have UV active parts on them whatsoever.
^-- This. This is the way.
I call complete, LARP BS on that. I heard it thrown out there too, but I can't remember who said it. Not only does that claim make zero sense technically, it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what blockchain is or how it works and why.
To explain:
Historically, searching and retrieving information was done via a database. Databases are highly efficient at doing this task, but are generally centralized and therefore under control of a single entity. That leads to perceived weaknesses, like that records could be altered and integrity compromised because of the single source of control, or a single point of failure could cause that database to be unavailable. So, blockchain was invented to address these concerns.
Blockchain is an entirely electronic, decentralized, and cryptographically secured datastore that provides record integrity (proof the record hasn't been changed) and non-repudiation (knowing who changed it and when). The decentralized nature of BC grants 24x7x365 availability, and there is no single point of failure. Confidentiality (visibility of the record's data) is optional and dependent on the implementation. Furthermore, each block (record) is cryptographically signed and made immutable- any changes to the record's data must be done in a new block and linked to the original block. That gives a complete chain of custody and audit trail throughout the life of the block, and any illicit changes to a block's data can be reconstructed by its descendants.
Following me so far?
Watermarks are physical 'stamps' that can be used to track and trace a physical object. They are regarded as immutable in their own right, so no need to provide integrity via an external method. Ballots in this case are physical- not electronic. There is no linkage to the data on the ballot to the record used to track serialized watermarks. There is also no accounting for the physical delivery of that piece of paper beyond the first destination after the watermark was recorded.
The only way this blockchain watermark crap becomes useful is if Dominion, in reality, are the good guys; and Eric Coooooomer is a white hat. Those electronic voting machines would have had to been rebuilt to scan ballots with both UV light to pick up the serialized watermark, record the data, and enter it into the non-public blockchain supposedly created for this.
I give the chances of that a zero point zero, Mister Blutarsky.
Did CISA create a blockchain to record watermarked serials? Maybe. But would make zero sense.
Does it help the audit or to prove vote counts? No, it can't.
Does it prove the contents of a watermarked ballot is false? Nope.
Can it track changes to the data on a ballot? Uh-uh. Nyet.
Can it figure out if a ballot was fraudulently created? Not really, unless every ballot were watermarked. But that's just a database search to see if the serial exists and it's uniquely counted- a problem solved efficiently with a database, not a blockchain.
what is blockchain and why is it different?
This is kind of a simple explanation, and I may not be 100% correct. But the idea is they are in a mathematic sequence based on an encryption key. If you try to forge a watermark based on blockchain it won't match the sequence. I believe that when you scan it as being legit you have to have the encryption key. This is all based off of what Dr. Steve Pieczenik reported days after the election. If anyone has any better explanation please correct me.
You’re basically correct, although the tech is much more powerful than people understand. It can easily build a fraud-free voting system IMO.
To take a closer look at you’re example, the real “engine” that drives this tech is the “blockchain”. Its basically a ledger stored on computers called “miners”. Each “change” to the ledger is verified by the miners and is written into the blockchain. It’s incredibly secure and allows for all types of uses; both good and evil. Vaccine passports based on blockchain tech would be a nightmare come true for the DS. Although some speculate that a quantum computer has broken 256bit encryption (blockchains use 256bit), I’m highly skeptical of this. Even if this were true, that same quantum computer would be able to create “quantum level encryption”. By the time quantum encryption is broken, the human race will have either been uploaded into the matrix or killed off by AI. ?
If Steve Pieczenik is proven correct about watermarks I'll take back every negative thought I've had about him !
Well, I believe that HE believes what he says. I have a high level of respect for anyone willing to go on record and not post anonymously as a source. I don't believe in anonymous sources. That being said, he very well could be controlled opposition.
I still think Steve Pieczenik is still BS. They booted him off Alex Jones and he kept datefagging. It was literally after I called Owen Troyer out on it on parler.
thanks all. i'm sure it would have been if Q is legit and this was a sting.
UV fibers in the paper.
Just a hunch but lights may detect fold/not folded (counterfeit)
A style of black and white looking IR is best for that.
I surely hope this makes WinsAnon's list for today.