While I find sexual assault abhorrent, I also believe in people being free when they have done their sentencing. Signs such as these just promotes vigilantism, and puts unnecessary fear into the neighborhood.
Agreed, if we had a working criminal justice system people would be behind bars if guilty and, once out, should be free to resume thief citizen lives. Unfortunately, the justice system is criminal...
Back when I was a child, if a man was convicted of rape or child perversion, he was executed.
While I believe in "innocent until proven guilty". I also believe that once guilt has been proven, the court needs to realize that the criminal has had his turn with justice and now the victims needs have to be met. Pedophiles, serial killers, etc. cannot be cured by jail or psychotherapy. Put them to death so that the victim and or victims' families never has to worry again.
This right here is the problem. The REAL pedos... the ones that are a danger to our children shouldn't be running around on the dam streets. The leftists have screwed up the justice system so bad that they are free... see look we have a registry. What a total crock.
When we add to the equation that tons of people end up on those lists for stupid bullshit like drunk college student urinating in public and he ends up on the registry? That's just fucking stupid.
Can you just imagine a sign like this getting some guys rental house burned to the ground and that's why he's on the registry... he was peeing in public so drunk he could barely stand and just because a teenage girl happened to be nearby they charge him with something so stupid it defies all common sense... why? Because he's a strait white male. Get it? They are trying to use us as a defense shield to hide pedos.
I wonder if there could be a sort of system for randomly selected peer 'jury duty' for those about to be released instead of trusting that incredibly important decision to a judge or a panel of politicians.
Idk but I feel like some sort of public service involvement would help regulate and solve the recidivism and repeat offender rates.
IMHO, the actual/REAL people among us for whom the term "Sexually Dangerous/Highly likely to reoffend/escalate" almost never seem to get jammed like this. For one thing, if they're "still dangerous" that means that the "rehabilitation" is and always was a not so polite fiction irrespective of the offense. And those who are actually guilty/dangerous in that sense and proven it by their actions should NEVER be part of a discussion regarding what to do with them/about them in The Community...because they should never actually get out.
But that would endanger both the industry they've created (caseworkers, information filing and retrieval for CORI/NICS/Sex Offender Database Tracking Systems), the legislative schemes they've created and funded with your tax dollars AND a continuing justification to put all the rest of us under Investigation Eternal in the exercise of OUR rights...because they put dangerous people among us specifically to justify the infringements on everyone ELSE'S rights (after all, we have to make sure that YOU aren't as tainted as the guy we let out in YOUR neighborhood and probably got a job as a counselor now that he's ALMOST cured).
If anyone ever made the mistake of putting me in charge this wouldn't even be a question.... because if someone was actually convicted of an offense of THIS nature-and I don't mean 17 year old with a 16 year old sexual partner or a drunk taking a leak behind a building and a dumpster, the only question would be Is It Life or Is It Death? Either way the idea of any of them winding up In The Wild again would be a moot point.
Yes, if the science is settled on the recidivism, then the person would still be behind bars or under forced treatment. If a person is let free, he/she is free. Everything else is a slippery slope.
I agree. If the sentences being doled out to these people are not adequate, then reform that for tougher sentencing. Don't give them Mickey Mouse sentences, then persecute them for the rest of their lives.
There are also false convictions; if you've spent time around the punishment system called the justice system it becomes clear. Also there are a few Romeo and Juliet cases (one Alaska case I read about treats ago involved 2 16-year olds who married, the poor guy was ineligible for tons of jobs) that shouldn't qualify. But change the law to punish the real ones according to law, not this scarlet letter stuff. I mean if the law says they live on an island or stay in prison longer, then everybody convicted after that time does it.
I hope more people have walked away from a life of bad choices, relocated, re-identified, and started anew, a solid member of society......always hoped that option would be on the table if the need ever arose.
While I find sexual assault abhorrent, I also believe in people being free when they have done their sentencing. Signs such as these just promotes vigilantism, and puts unnecessary fear into the neighborhood.
Agreed, if we had a working criminal justice system people would be behind bars if guilty and, once out, should be free to resume thief citizen lives. Unfortunately, the justice system is criminal...
We have a legal system, not a justice system.
Jeeze. Sobering but true
Back when I was a child, if a man was convicted of rape or child perversion, he was executed.
While I believe in "innocent until proven guilty". I also believe that once guilt has been proven, the court needs to realize that the criminal has had his turn with justice and now the victims needs have to be met. Pedophiles, serial killers, etc. cannot be cured by jail or psychotherapy. Put them to death so that the victim and or victims' families never has to worry again.
In Iran?
Louisiana
100% this.
This right here is the problem. The REAL pedos... the ones that are a danger to our children shouldn't be running around on the dam streets. The leftists have screwed up the justice system so bad that they are free... see look we have a registry. What a total crock.
When we add to the equation that tons of people end up on those lists for stupid bullshit like drunk college student urinating in public and he ends up on the registry? That's just fucking stupid.
Can you just imagine a sign like this getting some guys rental house burned to the ground and that's why he's on the registry... he was peeing in public so drunk he could barely stand and just because a teenage girl happened to be nearby they charge him with something so stupid it defies all common sense... why? Because he's a strait white male. Get it? They are trying to use us as a defense shield to hide pedos.
So many layers to this non-sense.
I wonder if there could be a sort of system for randomly selected peer 'jury duty' for those about to be released instead of trusting that incredibly important decision to a judge or a panel of politicians.
Idk but I feel like some sort of public service involvement would help regulate and solve the recidivism and repeat offender rates.
Courts earn money on every case. Every case has a 1040 section nobody likes to admit.
Recidivism is how they keep getting paid. I know I'm being vague, but they makes tons of money. It's a business.
IMHO, the actual/REAL people among us for whom the term "Sexually Dangerous/Highly likely to reoffend/escalate" almost never seem to get jammed like this. For one thing, if they're "still dangerous" that means that the "rehabilitation" is and always was a not so polite fiction irrespective of the offense. And those who are actually guilty/dangerous in that sense and proven it by their actions should NEVER be part of a discussion regarding what to do with them/about them in The Community...because they should never actually get out.
But that would endanger both the industry they've created (caseworkers, information filing and retrieval for CORI/NICS/Sex Offender Database Tracking Systems), the legislative schemes they've created and funded with your tax dollars AND a continuing justification to put all the rest of us under Investigation Eternal in the exercise of OUR rights...because they put dangerous people among us specifically to justify the infringements on everyone ELSE'S rights (after all, we have to make sure that YOU aren't as tainted as the guy we let out in YOUR neighborhood and probably got a job as a counselor now that he's ALMOST cured).
If anyone ever made the mistake of putting me in charge this wouldn't even be a question.... because if someone was actually convicted of an offense of THIS nature-and I don't mean 17 year old with a 16 year old sexual partner or a drunk taking a leak behind a building and a dumpster, the only question would be Is It Life or Is It Death? Either way the idea of any of them winding up In The Wild again would be a moot point.
Yes, another slippery slope....George Washington, convicted White Supremacism, lives here.
Thomas Jefferson, convicted domestic terrorist, lives here.
Even for a crime with serial behavior? High percentage of repeat offenders.
Yes, if the science is settled on the recidivism, then the person would still be behind bars or under forced treatment. If a person is let free, he/she is free. Everything else is a slippery slope.
I agree. If the sentences being doled out to these people are not adequate, then reform that for tougher sentencing. Don't give them Mickey Mouse sentences, then persecute them for the rest of their lives.
Science settled??? Muhahahahahahajaha science isn't sttlednon shit. Bullshit religion.
There are also false convictions; if you've spent time around the punishment system called the justice system it becomes clear. Also there are a few Romeo and Juliet cases (one Alaska case I read about treats ago involved 2 16-year olds who married, the poor guy was ineligible for tons of jobs) that shouldn't qualify. But change the law to punish the real ones according to law, not this scarlet letter stuff. I mean if the law says they live on an island or stay in prison longer, then everybody convicted after that time does it.
sadly theyve come to be needed. there's many that do not stop, its a matter of when they get caught again.
they deserve biblical punishment especially when I comes to preying on kids. many prey on single mothers
Yep. I investigated crimes like this.
I hope more people have walked away from a life of bad choices, relocated, re-identified, and started anew, a solid member of society......always hoped that option would be on the table if the need ever arose.