I had a cell therapy (called CAR-T) for cancer last fall. Because the therapy is known to produce a spike, they did a detailed work up of neurological and cardio-vascular functions in order to track spike effects. They knew this would come. It did and was not pleasant, But the medical team managed the issues. They know then both that the spike was a high likelihood event and they know how to mitigate it. The "surprise" here doesn't seem to me to make sense.
I don't know the answer to your question which is really are these the same? CAR-T therapy harvests T-cells from the blood, inserts a genetic sequence into the T-cell that looks for a specific protein on the surface of the cancer cell and that carries a virus with it. The modified T-cell attack the cancer cell and compromises the cell membrane, then inserts the virus as a "kill mechanism" to destroy the cancer cell. The cytokine storm (spike) that comes with it in most treatments causes headaches and severe confusion, loss of balance (fall risk) as well as cardiac abnormalities and some (only a little for me) respiratory compromise. I did have blood clots at the site of a catheter insertion. I believe there are also less frequent issues including eyes, but I'm not sure and I didn't have any problem with vision. With the mitigation strategy employed, most of this is transitory (< 6 months) and I'm on a self imposed and self directed rehab program to rebuild strength and endurance.
This is why I'm confused but find the research statement to be curious.
President Trump acted surprised when he first tweeted that Obama had been spying on his campaign team. Of course he wasn't surprised. President Trump had known this for months before he tweeted about it. Sometimes you have to present something as a new 'surprise' as a way to get it into the news.
At the end of the day, the fact that the vaccines cause heart inflammation and blood clots is the important takeaway. In Byram Bridle's interviews he has acknowledged that the spike protein getting into the blood circulation was something he was previously concerned about, so again, the terminology he has used to get this into the news isn't important. What is important is that what was already known/suspected is now becoming more widely known.
The 'surprise' isn't that the spike protein is toxic. They already knew that. The surprise is that they thought (or hoped) the spike protein would remain in the shoulder area where the vaccine was given. They now know that it enters the blood and circulates around the body.
They should have verified this before millions of people were used as guinea pigs.
Because lots of doctors are the smart idiots that let their parents force them into it because it was a well paying career. They were blindly obedient before they even entered medical school.
not knowing the spike protein was a toxin, why didn't they just inject that as a vaccine instead of the mRNA to manufacture it? At least then the body could rid itself of the toxin, whereas with mRNA they will continually manufacture it.
So instead of directly injecting the poison into us, which would cause immediate damage, let's instead teach our bodies how to create that poison inside of us, so we can damage ourselves over time. Yay!
IIRC, two of the vaccines do use the toxic spike protein. Two others use the messenger RNA delivery system, i.e. they aren't actually vaccines, even though the media are calling them vaccines.
In the interview, Dr Bridle says they have known for a long time that the spike protein is pathogenic. What seems to be new is that they thought it would stay where it was injected and not get into the blood.
Right. But there was no animal study, as in a finished report of results. The testing was just swept under the rug, and then they asked for human volunteers (who are not aware that they are volunteers).
We didn't know??? Pretty lame. They should have done the animal testing and then no one would ever have had to suffer as they have been and will be suffering. A crime against humanity.
Funding for this work came from a generous donation from Barbara and Amos Hostetter and
the Chleck Foundation. This work was supported in part by the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation (no. INV-017380). We acknowledge support from the following research grants
for vaccine development: NIH/NIAID, Welcome Trust, and IAVI.
in the new study which is referenced, they only show that the spike protein is detectable in the bloodstream much longer than initially expected. the study doesn't talk about the spike protein being a toxin - if anyone knows of a study like that, it would be good to link here
something here doesn't make sense to me.
I had a cell therapy (called CAR-T) for cancer last fall. Because the therapy is known to produce a spike, they did a detailed work up of neurological and cardio-vascular functions in order to track spike effects. They knew this would come. It did and was not pleasant, But the medical team managed the issues. They know then both that the spike was a high likelihood event and they know how to mitigate it. The "surprise" here doesn't seem to me to make sense.
Look fat here’s the deal. Shut up and trust the science. Come on man!
I don't know the answer to your question which is really are these the same? CAR-T therapy harvests T-cells from the blood, inserts a genetic sequence into the T-cell that looks for a specific protein on the surface of the cancer cell and that carries a virus with it. The modified T-cell attack the cancer cell and compromises the cell membrane, then inserts the virus as a "kill mechanism" to destroy the cancer cell. The cytokine storm (spike) that comes with it in most treatments causes headaches and severe confusion, loss of balance (fall risk) as well as cardiac abnormalities and some (only a little for me) respiratory compromise. I did have blood clots at the site of a catheter insertion. I believe there are also less frequent issues including eyes, but I'm not sure and I didn't have any problem with vision. With the mitigation strategy employed, most of this is transitory (< 6 months) and I'm on a self imposed and self directed rehab program to rebuild strength and endurance.
This is why I'm confused but find the research statement to be curious.
President Trump acted surprised when he first tweeted that Obama had been spying on his campaign team. Of course he wasn't surprised. President Trump had known this for months before he tweeted about it. Sometimes you have to present something as a new 'surprise' as a way to get it into the news.
At the end of the day, the fact that the vaccines cause heart inflammation and blood clots is the important takeaway. In Byram Bridle's interviews he has acknowledged that the spike protein getting into the blood circulation was something he was previously concerned about, so again, the terminology he has used to get this into the news isn't important. What is important is that what was already known/suspected is now becoming more widely known.
Large B Cell nonHodgkin Lymphoma
This doctor might have been personally "surprised", he might have been misinformed and feels dupped.
The 'surprise' isn't that the spike protein is toxic. They already knew that. The surprise is that they thought (or hoped) the spike protein would remain in the shoulder area where the vaccine was given. They now know that it enters the blood and circulates around the body.
They should have verified this before millions of people were used as guinea pigs.
Oooooops...a big mistake. Forgive us, nobody’s perfect. Sorry thousands of people have died and hundreds of thousands are maimed for life.
Just like the Wuhan lab story. Ooopsie... we let the virus get out of the lab. It was an accident. Sorry about that.
Now for the fake vaccines. Ooopsie... we didn't know the spike protein was poison. We thought it was candy. Our bad.
We're sorry.
Doctors that prescribed opioids also said they didn’t know they were addictive, because that’s what they were told.
Because lots of doctors are the smart idiots that let their parents force them into it because it was a well paying career. They were blindly obedient before they even entered medical school.
not knowing the spike protein was a toxin, why didn't they just inject that as a vaccine instead of the mRNA to manufacture it? At least then the body could rid itself of the toxin, whereas with mRNA they will continually manufacture it.
In the interview, he actually states that the spike protein if injected directly into the body was causing adverse events - especially cardiovascular.
So instead of directly injecting the poison into us, which would cause immediate damage, let's instead teach our bodies how to create that poison inside of us, so we can damage ourselves over time. Yay!
IIRC, two of the vaccines do use the toxic spike protein. Two others use the messenger RNA delivery system, i.e. they aren't actually vaccines, even though the media are calling them vaccines.
In the interview, Dr Bridle says they have known for a long time that the spike protein is pathogenic. What seems to be new is that they thought it would stay where it was injected and not get into the blood.
Go to the 6:06 minute mark here.
This comment should be a lot higher up.
Yet they still push the vaccination
Because we didn't do any animal testing, nor did we conduct responsible human trial before rolling this thing out. Our bad.
Well they did do animal testing it just killed them all... so they started giving it to people instead.
Right. But there was no animal study, as in a finished report of results. The testing was just swept under the rug, and then they asked for human volunteers (who are not aware that they are volunteers).
"Sounds like informed consent to us" - Big Pharma, probably
We didn't know??? Pretty lame. They should have done the animal testing and then no one would ever have had to suffer as they have been and will be suffering. A crime against humanity.
did these authors go rogue?
in the new study which is referenced, they only show that the spike protein is detectable in the bloodstream much longer than initially expected. the study doesn't talk about the spike protein being a toxin - if anyone knows of a study like that, it would be good to link here
Anyone have a link to the actual study please?
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
https://watermark.silverchair.com/ciab465.pdf
"with some people it gets into circulation...?!"
Whahahahahaaaaaat?????
ALL innoculations go into circulation. Theta th nature of the innoculation. It's the nature of ALL shots.
These people really are stoopid.
WHAT IF THE VACCINE IS MADE OF FENTANYL?