Hopefully, I speak for others when I ask these questions...
Let's say that widespread fraud is found in several states that render those state's election fraudulent. What then? Will that state's legislature decertify their Electoral votes? Can this be done easily? And what if enough states do this where it would flip the Electoral College totals? Then what?
I know that I'm getting ahead of myself but I keep hearing the same old lines from BlueAnons that tell me that nothing will change the outcome. It's been certified and that's that.
Any hopeful explanation would be much appreciated.
In a nutshell……US v THROCKMORTON “Fraud vitiates everything.” That enduring opinion was the crux of the landmark decision handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the above referenced case of the United States versus Throckmorton. Ipso facto, the outcome of a POTUS election that is rife with one-sided fraud and criminality is rendered null and void. Especially any result which saw the winner attain his or her victory through fraudulent means and/or criminal conduct is automatically canceled and invalid under the law. The same U.S. Supreme Court ruling also determined that fraud vitiates contracts. An election is essentially a binding contract between the electorate and the elected. This indispensable social contract is irreparably broken through voter fraud and election cyber-crimes as the public trust is profoundly violated. The transparent Democrat-directed election theft of 2020 has rent asunder the sacred covenant between the elected and the electors. Hence, Joe Biden’s illicitly declared victory is illegitimate and therefore annulled forthwith. The Biden-Harris ticket has also forfeited any right to a recount or a re-run of the election because of their highly organized and premeditated fraud perpetrated to outright steal it. Remember, fraud vitiates everything.
Can the court be trusted to do its job?
When they start seeing their Judge colleagues hauled off by Tier 1 operators and disappeared to the Spa, they'll change their tunes right quick.
who will uphold/enforce this?
The military is the only way-look to Law of War with sections on belligerent occupiers of the city state of DC..
That's a good question.
no one. The dems do as they wish, they will pay no attention to a 130 year old ruling.
Thank you so much for that excellent legal explanation.
It was a contract dispute…elections are essentially contracts.
Was very interesting when during his confirmation hearing, it was either Jim Jordon or Rand Paul who questioned Justice Kavanaugh about ‘precedence’.
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Well said, it may be helpful to expand to show that the finding has been reinforced by the supreme court a variety of times since that one. You'll find the lefties like to pretend that anything more than 10 minutes old doesn't count, oh, see, someone already posted about the land dispute as a reason to justify that Biden CAN in fact win via fraud.
Why does everyone ask "can this be done " of course it can be done. What do you think will happen to this country if the fraud is presented and they don't remove the fraudster. Does anyone think that nothing being done is really an option?
I understood the question to be more about what the restoration process will look like. I am not sure if the exact process is clear. Hopefully Q is right about the end result.
I asked 'Can this be done EASILY?'
I guess for me "easy" is not a clear cut measurement. It sure the hell is easier than dealing with an uprising of President Trump supporters coming down on the DS inelegant the fraud is shown.
it triggers 11.3 of the Law of War manual giving the military the legal authority to overthrow the belligerent foreign government.
Military is the only way, this was always the plan.
I think that the answer to the question of what happens next is not clear, and I think that is the constitutional crisis referred to by Q.
Obviously Q has a plan, but what the plan is remains to be seen. Hopefully it works.
Yes it can be done, the Framers of the Constitution did not intend for us to live under the rule of people we did not elect. The opposite is true, the Revolutionary War was fought and the Constitution was written to prevent us from living under the rule of people we did not elect.
Remember when they said they'd have to get the military to remove Trump from office. Think mirror.
We'll have to have the military to removed Biden from office. I'd say a military tribunal for treason should do the trick. I should get the Pres, VP, and SOTH which would eliminate the constitutionally mandated plan of succession for President.
When that happens you have a means for the military to step in to assure national security and either restore Trump to office or hold a new election. Since we need not only Trump in office but all those cabal thieves down ballot that were fraudulently put in office removed too, I would suspect we would be looking at new elections very soon afterward even if they installed Trump. Either that or a lot of governors will get to seat congress critters. Some of those governors will have to been removed as well.
In my opinion everything points to new elections nationwide under strict control to eliminate cheating.
Bit of uncharted waters. There is a supreme court case that ended up with fraud vitiates everything but I think it would be unlikely to apply in this case.
In the case of decertify...I think that has happened in the past but to lesser races, and within a certain timeframe. It is already a half year down range of the election. If states start doing what AZ is just now finishing up it would tack on additional months.
It is hard to imagine states contacting the federal government to say they want their electorical votes back.
So your post is the 90million vote question. What happens next? No one has this answer. Regardless of what does/doesn't happen, significant history will be made and we get to live through it.
What will happen?
The only honest answer is "something other than nothing."
Nobody knows at that point where it would go. If the audits show that 4 or 5 House members or 1 or 2 Senators were also fraudulently elected, that changes things as well.
Imagine if all of the current administration officials were nominated by a fraudulently elected president, then confirmed by a vote from fraudulently elected senators led by a House Majority Leader who shouldn't be in that position. :>)
The full ballot audits revealing massive fraud in several states would bring down the entire administration at the very least. The House and Senate leadership and all legislation Congress has passed this year would be in question.
I don't see any choice but the military removal of the current administration and removal of lawmakers who were fraudulently elected. Then, we have two choices since massive fraud is revealed everywhere the ballots were audited.
That would be the only way. Otherwise, we no longer have a nation.
That argument is so stupid. It’s basically saying “So what if he’s declared illegitimate? They already certified it and that’s super magic set in stone that can’t be changed!”
Certifying fraud negates the certification: fraud vitiates everything...
They should simply throw out the fraudulent votes. Then replace Biden with Trump who should promptly throw all the felons and traitors in jail.
But what of the e-votes that reduced the weight of the vote for Trump, while increasing the weight of the Bidan votes?
We don't need to go any further than making sure enough was uncovered to prove Trump won by a healthy margin. Once decertified, remove its votes from the electoral college. That's the only count that matters. Once the majority of electoral college votes are in Trumps favor, he takes office. The counts could continue if they wish but once he's back, first order of business should be to arrest the felons and traitors who were behind the attempted steal.
That's when we storm the gates again. Just kidding. Giving the Dems some cream to put in their coffee.
At the Presidential level, this is unprecedented in modern times. Lower level cases may have some input but ultimately, I think it is going to be guided by public opinion. If there is a massive outcry, Trump will be reinstalled - even if through the Constitutional process of being named VP then assuming the presidency when Biden is forced to resign.
Except that his Veep Throat is complicit as well. And so is the Speaker Lugosi.
Then what ? Patrick Leahy? What if the NH audit shows he's been ousted?
Military is the only way!
There is a very clear legal framework for what would come next. It is called "Martial Law". That is not a military coup. It is not "extralegal". Military law replaces/supersedes all civilian branches of government.