? HUGE DEVELOPMENT: NSA Reveals in FOIA Response that the FBI Involved in “Improper Surveillance” of 16,000 Americans ?
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Many of you may recall that it was Admiral Mike Roger's, Director of the NSA at the time, who alerted Trump during his transition in December 2016, that he was being spied on by Obama.
Roger's is the ultimate white hat based on that action alone.
If the NSA are the one remaining "good guys" group in the intelligence agency realm, and they track every single piece of data, that could prove to be a very good thing for MAGA!
Well, it seems like the FBI is getting lambasted left and right this week, which they totally deserve, and I hope the hits keep on coming until they're burned to the ground, it seems like all they do is set up false flags and terrorize patriots.
Absolutely. They need to be taken down hard. They are 100% corrupt. I can only imagine the behind the scenes battles taking place right now. NSA and Military against everyone else.
the heads, yes. Remember that there are still could be good people lower in the ranks, like for instance, Carter Page
Pass the popcorn.
Agree. Need to round-up ALL the co-conspirators, especially those that were or are in the DOJ, and in other three letter agencies.
They apparently can tor won't clean their own house. That means the worst corruption is at the top.
All the FBI has ever been is DS control of Government.
Here is the direct image link the the NSA's approval letter granting Clevinger's request. The FBI was planning to take decades to disclose the info requested. NSA said, "We got this."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/clevenger-fbi.jpg
I know Mike Rogers is MAGA... I go back and forth on the NSA.... but I have no fucking doubt whatsoever that the FBI / CIA / need to cease to exist with many going to prison.
I believe Q implied that Snowden was used by thr CIA to ruin the NSA's credibility. I wonder if that makes Snowden a black hat or someone eho doesnt really know he's been used.
Take Mike Rogers, this move with FOIA, and the fact that the MSM all agreed for some reason that the NSA surveillance data centers were bad a few years ago, I feel like evidence is mounting the NSA are white hats.
I've been against most of our intelligence agencies for a long time. I think they do more harm than good in general, but what about Chinese espionage? How do we counter that without intelligence? I think intelligence should be under the military only and limited to foreign actors. I wonder now what specific relationship NSA and the military have that the others in thr IA community don't have?
Just think of the entire situation from the Hollywood propaganda machine. Hollywood paints Snowden as some hero to America for exposing NSA. Therefore in realty, Snowden = Bad and NSA = Good. That's my take of "Think Mirror". Literally everything that Hollywood pushes out is the opposite of reality, just created to satiate the average American.
Some critical thinking going on here
Also, every time Snowden does one of his interview he seems to be in good health & a good state of mind. How can he afford to be if he's on the run? Compare all that to Julian Assange for instance.
You posed a question and then answered it in the next sentence. Intelligence is required in this age. Intelligence goes all the way back to our Revolutionary War. Militiamen had an unspoken duty to wear an "intelligence" hat; ie.. if they saw something that the red coats were doing, they were motivated to share it with their militia.
Secondly, most of you guys dont understand the difference between statecraft intelligence, and military intelligence.. so when these types of discussions come up, you begin to paint a large brush on everything in the IC.
"I think intelligence should be under the military only and limited to foreign actors."
Yep! When it was known as the OSS, it seemed to do its job. If they're a part of the military, the President is their Commander in Chief ... right now, these orgs are nothing but separate nations of sort that don't have to answer to anyone anymore, but tend to blame the USA when they screw things up.
The role of the FBI is another one of those redundancies that are stupid at best. We have police at the state, county, and local level. Why in the hell do we need a Federal police force? I get that we may need some kind of Federal level of policing for those criminals that are wanted in two or more states ... but isn't that supposed to be the role of the US Marshals? The only thing the FBI should be doing is assisting police in the States and NOT handling cases ... that's another path to corruption in my opinion.
Loads of other departments need some kind of oversight/elimination too. ATF seems to have a mind of its own these days. What is the fucking point of it anymore? It seems like it's nothing more than a military group that's legally allowed to go after USA citizens ... however, since it is sold to the public as a glorified police force, that somehow makes it legal.
I could see one of these pissants corrupt the border into a force that keeps people IN the country (this is a job for the military in my opinion ... border patrol ... they're fine now and obviously doing what they are supposed to do, but it doesn't seem to take all that long for the DS to weaponize a department).
I cannot wait for the day when this country is overhauled and made back into a lean, mean, fighting machine! :-)
Prison for FBI. The CIA need to hang after facing military tribunals.
If I remember correctly, Rogers told Trump to create a SCIF, then went to meet Trump inside the SCIF, and when he came out the world would never be the same again. The rest is history.
Interesting on creating the SCIF.
My recollection was that Rogers made an unannounced visit to Trump at Trump Tower, not on his calendar. Whatever he said and however he said it (maybe a hand written note?), Trump moved his entire transition team to his Bedminster Country Club the next day.
Knowing what we know now, Trump had deep staters Chris Christy and Pence leading his transition and staffing. Makes you want to puke knowing the scum Trump had to deal with when he first started. No wonder the first month's and years were so bumpy.
I still can't believe how much Trump got done with so much opposition from all sides and corners. He is superhuman.
Correct. I believe the meeting took place in the SCIF, I have forgotten the details but the SCIF was definitely involved.
Mike Rogers and Gen Flynn are two patriots whom Obama must (have) resent(ed) in his way to the gallows. Mike Rogers especially flew under the radar until the very end and knew everything.
Maybe this is why Soros said that Obama was a major disappointment.
Thanks for the additional details bubble_bursts.
You are right that Roger's was under the radar. At some point, maybe during the transition or just before, Clapper, Brennan, and Comey all went after him. At some point they realized he could be a major problem.
Pretty simple. Why do they need a middle man? Why does the CIA get to declassify and leak at will, and control the world media apparatus, and the NSA/DIA doesnt?
Q, and other NSA foia and leaks, are just a version of the CIA media. A way to shape the narrative. Started just after Horowitz, when the war between the military intel and communist civilian intel people went nuclear. Now they are playing for keeps.
It’s as much a survival and bureaucratic move as it is patriotic. The military brass see a chance to absorb the entire CIA budget, and all of its duties. So they will take it.
This is as much a Soviet style politburo civil war as it is a fraud problem. I would expect a continuous stream of info from the NSA, and this is just the beginning.
Eventually they will be leaking shit so crazy it’s gonna require those 85 million IP addresses that Pentagon just handed over to global resources.