And also worth highlighting that some hospitals aren't reporting deaths.
With the WuFlu, hospitals received large payments for every death they registered as the WuFlu, hence they inflated the figures. With the vaccine, there is no incentive to report, hence under-reporting of the figures.
Agree… very under-reported. Recently 2 acquaintances died in their sleep suddenly. One due to seizures of unknown cause. Another 2 have had serious health issues including ER visits, Myocarditis, Auto-Immune treatment, eye bleeding, tremors, etc. All are un-reported as they have not associated cause as the shot.
There's a several month lag in reporting the numbers of VAERS death, since the CDC (or their data contractor) does a verification of death reporting. The jump in deaths for the week may represent an attempt to "get on top" of the backlog.
It is true that VAERS is a voluntary reporting system. It is a pain to fill out the forms and every page threatens fines and imprisonment for falsifying docs. (Not that that stopped the people who cheated in the election). A Harvard study from several years back about the VAERS system indicated that between 1 and 10% of all adverse reactions get reported. So, unless there is blatant and deliberate fraud going on in this case, it is safe to assume that there may be thousands more deaths and injuries tied to the vaccines than what the database indicates, based on the Harvard study.
So there is no way to defend against that argument then? Because I've brought up VAERS data and people say "anybody can report what they want" - so theoretically a large enough group of anti-vaxxers could falsify reports.
I can't overlook this flaw just because the data works in my favor
Absolutely this is possible. I don't think we should be making an argument that the VAERS data is solid. The simple reality is the VAERS data is all we have. In my opinion, anti vaxxers are generally honest people in society who receive no benefit by sounding the alarm on the harms vaccines have caused their children and who actually face a lot of persecution and scorn and criticism. That does not mean there is no nefarious group or individual falsifying the VAERS data. It is possible, but I think, not probable. This is anecdotal but lends a little support for me at least that the VAERS numbers for COVID vax reactions are more likely under reported than overreported ...I know several people personally who have had a complication from the vax or a health issue suspected to be connected with the vax. I only know of one person who was diagnosed with COVID and had a difficult time with the illness. Not a scientific study, but personal experience should I think be used as one source of information to help us determine what is real.
You're not going to get something better than VAERS in the near term. Probably you'll see an increase in overall deaths in all countries where the vaccines were administered for the year 2021-? from the 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 years which have been quite stable considering we were experiencing a "pandemic."
You can search the VAERS database to look at the individual reports. The ones not yet scrubbed are available for viewing.
Read Karl Denniger's analysis of multiple government reports. The WuFlu kills the old and the weak, so you would expect the number of disabled to have decreased significantly. However, since January 2021, the number of disabled increased by 1.7 million.
Hmm, now what started happening around January 2021? What could have cause this massive increase in disabled since January 2021? Hmm...
The WuFlu vaccine deaths outnumber the total combined number of deaths from all other vaccines over the last 20 years.
Read some of the reports. Some of them are clearly written by brainwashed people who ave been taken in by the pro-vaccine propaganda. Again, read the reports for yourself. You will see reports along the lines of "They were old, so I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they died a few hours after receiving the vaccine." These are not reports written by anti-vax people. In many cases, these are reports written by brainwashed sheep who still refuse to accept reality, even when they witness it with their own eyes.
Results
Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients, and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these doses, 35,570 possible reactions (2.6 percent of vaccinations) were identified. This is an average of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician, per month. These data were presented at the 2009 AMIA conference.
In addition, ESP:VAERS investigators participated on a panel to explore the perspective of clinicians, electronic health record (EHR) vendors, the pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA towards systems that use proactive, automated adverse event reporting.
Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed. Barriers to reporting include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of clinicians’ usual workflow, takes time, and is duplicative. Proactive, spontaneous, automated adverse event reporting imbedded within EHRs and other information systems has the potential to speed the identification of problems with new drugs and more careful quantification of the risks of older drugs.
Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.
If 1% is reported…
[Using 9k deaths reported]
(https://www.openvaers.com/images/files/FridayOpenVAERSAlert07-09-21.pdf) the projection may be higher. This may be the case given hospitals are not associating the shot as cause of death and some life insurance will not cover for an experimental EUA shot driving further under reporting.
What hasn't been scrubbed yet. Hopefully someone is recording the database info still. There is a video out showing cases of deaths that had been scrubbed. Will be interesting to see if the number of deaths start to go in reverse like the number of votes for Trump did.
Thank you! I bet he is the one who produced the video I saw where he pulled up the individual files on the VAERS database to show they had been scrubbed. I will ck out.
Yes, I read through some of the cases on the VAERS website, and one death was registered by a son/daughter who said the hospital refused to register the death. How many other hospitals have a policy of not registering vaccine deaths I wonder?
At least 9048 deaths https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality
https://www.openvaers.com/blog/call-to-action
And also worth highlighting that some hospitals aren't reporting deaths.
With the WuFlu, hospitals received large payments for every death they registered as the WuFlu, hence they inflated the figures. With the vaccine, there is no incentive to report, hence under-reporting of the figures.
Agree… very under-reported. Recently 2 acquaintances died in their sleep suddenly. One due to seizures of unknown cause. Another 2 have had serious health issues including ER visits, Myocarditis, Auto-Immune treatment, eye bleeding, tremors, etc. All are un-reported as they have not associated cause as the shot.
So J&J doesn't register at all?
Is this being verified at all? I'm hearing anyone can report anything anonymously.
There's a several month lag in reporting the numbers of VAERS death, since the CDC (or their data contractor) does a verification of death reporting. The jump in deaths for the week may represent an attempt to "get on top" of the backlog.
I usually listen to WelcomeTheEagle88 for an analysis of how the data is being added (or deleted) from the database. https://www.bitchute.com/video/RPE6Y8ObDeTA/
It is true that VAERS is a voluntary reporting system. It is a pain to fill out the forms and every page threatens fines and imprisonment for falsifying docs. (Not that that stopped the people who cheated in the election). A Harvard study from several years back about the VAERS system indicated that between 1 and 10% of all adverse reactions get reported. So, unless there is blatant and deliberate fraud going on in this case, it is safe to assume that there may be thousands more deaths and injuries tied to the vaccines than what the database indicates, based on the Harvard study.
So there is no way to defend against that argument then? Because I've brought up VAERS data and people say "anybody can report what they want" - so theoretically a large enough group of anti-vaxxers could falsify reports.
I can't overlook this flaw just because the data works in my favor
Absolutely this is possible. I don't think we should be making an argument that the VAERS data is solid. The simple reality is the VAERS data is all we have. In my opinion, anti vaxxers are generally honest people in society who receive no benefit by sounding the alarm on the harms vaccines have caused their children and who actually face a lot of persecution and scorn and criticism. That does not mean there is no nefarious group or individual falsifying the VAERS data. It is possible, but I think, not probable. This is anecdotal but lends a little support for me at least that the VAERS numbers for COVID vax reactions are more likely under reported than overreported ...I know several people personally who have had a complication from the vax or a health issue suspected to be connected with the vax. I only know of one person who was diagnosed with COVID and had a difficult time with the illness. Not a scientific study, but personal experience should I think be used as one source of information to help us determine what is real.
Problem is anecdotal evidence can be just as easily dismissed. Guess I'll have to wait for some kind of official survey.
You're not going to get something better than VAERS in the near term. Probably you'll see an increase in overall deaths in all countries where the vaccines were administered for the year 2021-? from the 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 years which have been quite stable considering we were experiencing a "pandemic."
You can search the VAERS database to look at the individual reports. The ones not yet scrubbed are available for viewing.
Read Karl Denniger's analysis of multiple government reports. The WuFlu kills the old and the weak, so you would expect the number of disabled to have decreased significantly. However, since January 2021, the number of disabled increased by 1.7 million.
Hmm, now what started happening around January 2021? What could have cause this massive increase in disabled since January 2021? Hmm...
The WuFlu vaccine deaths outnumber the total combined number of deaths from all other vaccines over the last 20 years.
Read some of the reports. Some of them are clearly written by brainwashed people who ave been taken in by the pro-vaccine propaganda. Again, read the reports for yourself. You will see reports along the lines of "They were old, so I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they died a few hours after receiving the vaccine." These are not reports written by anti-vax people. In many cases, these are reports written by brainwashed sheep who still refuse to accept reality, even when they witness it with their own eyes.
https://t.me/IvermectinVERSUSthegreatreset/7676
2010 Harvard Study estimates only 1% reporting.
Results Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients, and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these doses, 35,570 possible reactions (2.6 percent of vaccinations) were identified. This is an average of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician, per month. These data were presented at the 2009 AMIA conference. In addition, ESP:VAERS investigators participated on a panel to explore the perspective of clinicians, electronic health record (EHR) vendors, the pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA towards systems that use proactive, automated adverse event reporting. Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed. Barriers to reporting include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of clinicians’ usual workflow, takes time, and is duplicative. Proactive, spontaneous, automated adverse event reporting imbedded within EHRs and other information systems has the potential to speed the identification of problems with new drugs and more careful quantification of the risks of older drugs. Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.
If 1% is reported… [Using 9k deaths reported] (https://www.openvaers.com/images/files/FridayOpenVAERSAlert07-09-21.pdf) the projection may be higher. This may be the case given hospitals are not associating the shot as cause of death and some life insurance will not cover for an experimental EUA shot driving further under reporting.
VAERS analysis Backlog of cases No updates
We call losing 2,977 people on 9/11 a horrible Act of terrorism. What do we call this?
How many people died from the virus this week?
0
Well yeah hahaha but what are they telling people? Lol
In the UK, the death rate is less than one a day from the delta variant (117 deaths in 4.7 months).
Less than one thousand until it eclipses the actual COVID deaths.
Doesn't mean they all happened this week, just that the reports were added this week. I hear they are trying to catch up.
The posted chart says "new deaths" and the dates are 7/2 - 7/9.
The number looks to me like 2061. Last digit is a bit fuzzy.
That's a lot.
We need to monitor this closely. I suspect they are underreporting.
Absolutely they are.
"SAFE AND EFFECTIVE" eh? All [THEIR] propaganda says so.
"Effective" = "working as designed"
When does the vaccine vaccine come out?
That's for the people who just don't learn.
This simply proves their Science Juice is working. Science Juice for Everyone! More Science Juice!
And that’s only what they’re ALLOWING to be reported.
What hasn't been scrubbed yet. Hopefully someone is recording the database info still. There is a video out showing cases of deaths that had been scrubbed. Will be interesting to see if the number of deaths start to go in reverse like the number of votes for Trump did.
This guy @Welcometheeagle88 on Odysee tracks the Vaers data very thoroughly.
His spreadsheets are very detailed and even has projections for data that was scrubbed.
Thank you! I bet he is the one who produced the video I saw where he pulled up the individual files on the VAERS database to show they had been scrubbed. I will ck out.
You’re welcome. I didn’t even notice its the same guys handle in the twitter post 😂.
His videos though are where the data gets broken down.
Or similar to Biden’s downvotes on YouTube
Yes, I read through some of the cases on the VAERS website, and one death was registered by a son/daughter who said the hospital refused to register the death. How many other hospitals have a policy of not registering vaccine deaths I wonder?
All of them.
And it's only the deaths within 30 days (a few days in most cases).
It doesn't account for the potential of long term deaths which may come further down the line.