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U.S. TREASURY WILL SUSPEND SALE OF STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SECURITIES ON JULY 30 TREASURY WILL "NEED TO START TAKING CERTAIN ADDITIONAL EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES" TO PREVENT U.S. DEFAULT IF CONGRESS DOES NOT ACT BY AUG 2 - YELLEN I told you a few weeks ago to watch this... (twitter.com) 🧐 Research Wanted 🤔
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– bubble_bursts 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

There was an entire thread about how the local and state securites are actually fraudulent, since they use the Federal reserve note. I dont remember the details, but essentially all these folks had been threatened to do this, even though constitutionally they cannot use notes issued by some private party (like fed reserve).

I might be putting this in some horrific word-butchered way, hopefully some smarter Anon will remember what this is an provide a link.

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– SomeRandomGuy77 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

even though constitutionally they cannot

Could write that about a million things.

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– TSearch 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

But when has the Congress ever failed to authorize higher spending limit?

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– Monomial 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Eventually? Of course.

But there have been several short term government shutdowns. That is what we are looking at now. The debt ceiling will be raised by October when it becomes critical. This is a short term crisis.

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– CherokeePede 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Dolloar collapses and people have no way to afford to use those computers crypto is worthless. Its what, 90% dependednt on people buying online and paying online with real money. No money, no buy, no buy, no crypto. There are a few niche cases, but no one is going to be using bitcoin to buy bread at a local shop.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Buying with real money? Where do we get real money? There is none.

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– THEPATRIOTICTECH 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Thats not true really though. We had everything you posted about prior to internet or electricity. Im not into currency research because i dont understand it. But i would argue if everything is shut off, bullets will be the most valuable item on this planet. At least for a while.

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– Keepwatukill 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Bullets to get gas to power vehicles and generators to then acquire everything else you need. All the people stocking up on food gas whole farms livestock thinking they are going to just cruise it on out are going to be sorely mistaken when roving gangs of 18 to 25-year-olds with guns and bad attitudes take everything.

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– THEPATRIOTICTECH 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Whos to say they wont? Hell just look at cuba. No internet for the peasants. What do you think theyll do to us?

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– rajbaj2222 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Even then, it would only be suspended, not stopped. The minute the power and internet come back on, your crypto is available again. Unless the plan is to shut off all power and internet for all of eternity, crypto is always going to be around.

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– HOSEQ 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And so too goes the internet, your ability to cook food, hospitals, telecommunications, transporation, everything.

Seriously? Do you really believe that Americans cannot make Fire for Cooking?? We Grill all the time, FOOL!!! Hospitals??? Duh, we help each other with health issues ALL THE TIME Maroon!!! Transportation issues?? I know how to pull fuel out of a 20 Foot deep hole with a HAND PUMP..... Are you really at the same IQ as AOC??? Telecommunications aren't a Necessity.... We still have CB Radios.... And if we go LOCAL ONLY, we seriously redouble all our efforts of Community Survival.... ID ten T!!! Yes Doofus, Gold and Silver is the Only Way.... And since Crypto is based on NOTHING, it then holds exactly that value, NOTHING.... You can have 1 Crypto, and it has the exact same value as 1 Billion Crypto... NOTHING..... But then you'll want to have it based on the ""Dollar"", which is a FOREIGN CURRENCY, it too is based only upon ""Confidence"", and it should be seen as "Speculation", and therefore holds NO VALUE.... So your crypto is back to NO VALUE, or even worse, Negative Value....

I'd explain all the intricacies, but I've probably lost you already....

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– N0rds 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Lmao, if the power goes off, your Crypto IS STILL THERE. It doesnt disappear. Also, if power goes out, so does your local bank. You cannot access your us dollars if the bank is without power, as all your money is 1s and zeros on servers, and banks cannot just hand out cash randomly. So it's a stupid argument.

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– N0rds 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

And you arent paying for mountain dew with gold or silver, either... Not a single store accepts gold or silver, but thousands of them DO take crypto...

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– WildStar 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Everything depends on what you mean by SHTF. Different events are going to result in very different situations. Do you mean:

  1. Total infrastructure collapse: Whether by EMP, solar flare, or some other national disaster. In this case, crypto will be worthless, but so will anything that isn't immediately useful. That includes gold and silver. The only things of value will be food, land, and the means to defend them. During this, which is essentially total anarchy, no one will be trading valuable goods for a chunk of rock that he can't immediately eat or shoot. Precious metals won't have any value until some civil order is restored.

  2. Civil war: Since the infrastructure to support them will still exist, both precious metals and crypto are likely to retain their current value, though crypto will be much easier to trade for small goods. However, all involved factions will likely be printing their own currency, so you're probably much better off just using your faction's currency, and fighting like hell for that faction to win.

  3. Weimar-style hyperinflation: Again, the infrastructure will still be around, only the fiat currency will be worthless. Gold, silver and crypto will still hold value, but as N0rds points out, stores are not set up to manage transactions with gold or silver, especially if you're dealing with values like 1/1000 oz. It's far easier to process 1/1000 of a bitcoin; and most stores are already set up to manage such payments.

To sum up: Gold and silver are better stores of value, but don't count on them having any liquidity. Crypto is much more liquid, and easier to process, but also less stable and more vulnerable to market fluctuation.

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– tcriv 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

how about some evidence lol

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– vagrantloser 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

if you want to know what the most valuable thing you have is, its yourself. Tools, bullets, weapons, all are extensions of the value of a human.

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– DontTreadOnIT 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You could start by bringing some substance to the argument.

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– BasedInFact 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I’m a 100% with you on this, brother. All these cryptos are fundamentally worthless, and almost all functionally serve as pump-and-dump schemes.

They create absolutely no value, and depend entirely upon the “greater fool” principle for any “appreciation.”

Their future prospects are all go-to-zero as everyone tries to pull out more value from the system than was put in; they’re all pushed as a money-for-nothing scheme. And their value/use-case under a SHTF scenario is even more laughable.

I did have to chuckle how your first crypto-sceptic comment got downvoted to hell, but your follow up, where you noted that “cryptos” were, essentially, just another “cabal” scheme to get people to throw their money into a worthless (but oh so secure, because “blockchain”😆) rathole, was far more favorably received. I agree with both your arguments, generally, but I laugh how easily, on this board, explicitly pinning it on “the cabal” is the surest path to updoots.

However, cabal or no, “cryptos” are transparently a series of fundamentally worthless pump-and-dump scams.

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– BasedInFact 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That, for sure, but more than anything, it’s preying on greed, and the near universal (and throughly understandable, yet reliably destructive) desire for money-for-nothing.

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– VetforTrump 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

We are aware. However there can be other currencies adopted.

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– HOSEQ 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They have 100% manipulated crypto.

So you admit that the Bankers had this idea long before it became a reality, and it only managed to become a reality because the MAROONS in the Public backed it with nothing more than ""Con-fidence"", which is exactly what backs the Fiat Currencies?? Ok, good that you SEE it...

But I am telling you we as the people still need a reliable form of digital exchange.

We have had that since the 80s, it is called a Credit card.... We didn't ""NEEEED"" to go past that in the Financial World, until in the 80s, the BANKERS started talking about Digital Currencies... It was ALL their Idea in the first place..... Yes, the very first Rag I read it in was NYTimes.... A 100% Communist Rag....

Consider my words. I'm not here to sell you anything.

And yet, you sound exactly like a second rate used car salesman... No, sersly, you do....

I merely want you to understand that this technology is not as ephemeral as you make it out to be.

If it isn't, it should be.... IT was ALL a Bankers Ruse to begin with, and should DIE along with the federal Reserve banking Corporation.... and all of that shit Fiat Currency....

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– N0rds 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Stocks, gold, silver, and many other financial instruments are manipulated to hell, what's your fucking point?

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I can say the same about gold. If the world goes to shit and we are back to hunting and gathering food just to not die, no one is going to give a shit about shiny metals. They probably wont even trade you food for trinkets... ammo maybe, but gold only has value because humans currently think such... (some) crypto imo is no diff from gold. Limited supply, it only has value if people see value in it, and yeah it's useless if everyone is shooting deer just to feed their family, but the same goes for gold and silver in such times...

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– THEPATRIOTICTECH 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

People have been giving a shit about shiny metals for hundreds of years prior to the dollar or crypto (and still continue to today). If we are forced to go all the way back to either hunt or die for literally every person in society we're fucked anyway. I dont think the grid going down would put us in such a state. Cities would be fucked but country folk can survive. I think the separation everyone is having in this thread is the idea of what exactly the circumstances of a major catastrophe would be. Everyone seems to be in agreement just with different scenarios in mind.

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– yudsfpbc 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You can wipe your butt with dollars.

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– tomthung 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

you can wipe you butt with your fingers, just ask muhammad.

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– WildStar 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You're wrong on this one: the value of gold and silver is extrinsic. It's only value is as a medium of trade.

Food, land, ammunition, tools: These things have intrinsic value. You can use them even if no one is trading with you.

If I have a fish, I can trade it or I can eat it. It always has value.

If I have a chunk of silver or gold, it's worthless unless someone else is willing to trade something of value for it.

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– Blurpy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The Mother Of All Short Squeezes (MOASS) is coming. Get your moon tickets while they are still available. The greatest transfer of wealth in human history is about to begin.

I do not give financial advice. I am merely voicing my own personal opinion.

I believe this is the storm. This will crush the financial arm of the Cabal.

As Q has said repeatedly: "you have more than you know". and...

"To be blunt, Game over." (Game Over is another way to say GameStop.)

https://qposts.online/post/3872

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– Positively_Negative 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

💎👐💎🚀🌕

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– farpointpatriot 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oh you conspiracy theory nuts you ju ...wait ... OH SHIT!!!!

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– Mcmurdo32 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Buy my sponsor's gold.

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– caylenesdad 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Do you now see that the military, and all the people that they have under their control, are now spouting crazy shit! Liz Chaney is the new military owned puppet, to show what the hell good, are Rinos. Believe me she is the worst, but to possibly get only ten years instead of death. They gave her a play. They are waking you up to learn ,real people are not politicians . Real people want answers, not lies. You will no longer look up to people of wealth or stature. You will be more concerned about the country , family,and neighbors.

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– mengderen 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Yup, during the lockdown-the Fed was folded into the U.S. Treasury and President Trump and Manuchin were Directors of the Fed. They proceeded to bankrupt the "contingency fund" (blackops fund) which has paid for the stimulus program set in place by PDJT... biden has no oomph or money..

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– VetforTrump 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

April 15, 2020 to be exact.

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– Tylerlc22 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Wondering the same

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– Tylerlc22 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah I never even saw anything about it when it supposedly happened. Just hardly heard of it.

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