I am looking for proof that makes it literally impossible for Q to be some unimpressive mid-20’s troll.
The entire body of work of Q is what proves that. There is no chance that an "unimpressive mid-20's troll" could have produced 5% of what Q did.
Q was an insider of some type. It could reasonably be debated which side Q was on, but the idea that he was just a troll, which implies no inside knowledge, only shows that you have not read much (or any) of Q's actual writings.
If you have not read any or much of Q's writing, and yet you have concluded that he might be an "unimpressive mid-20's troll," then it is reasonable to conclude that you are a troll.
I have read most, if not all of Q’s posts, and have been unable to prove that any of them couldn’t be fabricated by a bored news junkie.
That doesn’t make me a troll. From my perspective, it makes me a skeptic. From yours, it probably makes me an idiot.
But I’ve promised a lot of people here, including at least one mod, that I will be here if the Plan comes to fruition so you can all rub in my face how much smarter than me you are. So I intend to wait for the Plan and be here at the end, one way or the other.
I’m saying exactly the same thing that you guys are saying. I’m just saying that I reached a different conclusion using those methods. There is nothing remotely trollish about that. In fact, that is exactly how the scientific peer review process works.
First off, I wish people wouldn't downvote you and would like to thank you for actually engaging in a civil manner.
I'm sure we can all agree, left, right or center, that there are countless corrupt figures trying to screw all of us over without being held accountable.
As such, the only way to heal as a planet is to come together regardless of beliefs and to actually discuss, with a serious and open mind, the possibilities.
Thus, I am more than interested in knowing precisely what you have done in your attempt to research and what you have seen so far.
Would you care if I kindly asked you to start a thread in which you go into as much detail as you possibly can? I understand that this could take a lot of time out of your day, but perhaps that can help others fill in some gaps.
As far as 100% conclusive proof is concerned. I don't think that's possible without the person / group behind the account coming out and exposing the entire thing as real or larp.
That said, there are countless pieces of suspiciously precise coincidences. Now, given the volume of posts and the emphasis on "think mirror", time deltas and whatnot, it's the first valid working hypothesis is that someone is throwing shit around and seeing what sticks to the wall.
That explanation, however, quickly ceases to function due to the needlepoint precision of so many of those coincidences.
Which in turn leaves a number of possible options:
Q is real, the individual/team have access to certain key figures to make those coincidences (news, actions) possible, and:
Q is on "our" (e.g. the people, you included) side and uses the drops to various ends (different topic)
Q is an "enemy" or psyop
or
Q is a larp, and:
Several figures relevant to the news landscape decided, for whatever reason, to align news stories with Q drops
It's all a series of infinitesimally likely coincidences.
All that in mind, you have to sift through quite a volume of pieces of evidence to start getting a sense of what is happening, along with reading the drops themselves to get a clearer picture of what we're looking at if real.
Well, discussion is one thing, saying the same thing over and over is quite another. The "enlightened" attitude of smarminess they project is just annoying. They claim to want to save all the poor schmucks from believing a lie, thus proving they are smarter. They have the same attitude about Christianity, they want to "save us" from our religious delusion, b/c Richard Dawkins told them we believe in a spaghetti monster. The people that keep stating Q is a larp are the same people that spend 5 minutes reading the Bible(which now makes them a biblical expert), pull a scripture out apply it completely out of context, then say unilaterally religion is bad, and God is fill in the blank label to prove their point. There was a an idiot in the flat earth thread the other day doing just this.
They do the same with the Q drops. Pull out a random number drop, say this didn't happen therefore I.M. smart U R dum. They miss the entire message, not just parts of it. They miss the main point, and that is people who have the means to help, are doing just that, they know what is going on, and are alerting you to what is to come. Hmmm isn't God doing the same thing with the N.T., showing you how to correct yourself, and help others prior to what will come in revelations? You can't simply remove one number out of formula or equation, then say math doesn't work, you can't take a single drop out of the ocean and then claim there is no such thing, a cat or dog isn't a single hair.
The Q drops encompass a lot of information, taken at once it can be overwhelming, but there are parts of it everyone can understand w/o issue and b/c of that, you now have a starting point based on the things you do now. You can now start researching the things you don't know and tie it to what you already understand. That is the big key to the drops, YOU are doing the research and investigating, all we are given are slight nods, nudges, and bit of clarity, then we are off to the races. The drops got people to look for themselves instead of being spoon fed garbage as these young skulls full of mush are at the paid daycare, I mean university. Some of us have been looking into things that didn't make sense for quite a long time. The Q drops helped fill in the missing pieces, take any aha moment you have had, and that is what the Q drops enabled.
As far as proofs go, there are a lot of them. No, I am not going to list them out b/c at this point in time, if you don't know any of them you haven't been paying attention. There is a point when we need to stop going into remedial mode for every so called new person, who typically is a lefty trying to prove there is no such thing as Q. Peruse through the "book of Q"( it is poorly named imo), there are several very very good videos that lay out proofs.
Now if we could only get people to study the Bible in the same manner, we'll have made some serious progress.
I’ve been talking with the Q community since the 8chan days. I probably have more time around this than a lot of current GAW users. And I look at every piece of evidence that comes through, as far as I am able.
I don’t like the idea of making a giant thread with me tearing down Q, because that’s not really why I hang out here. I am just trying to see how we both look at the same piece of evidence and come to different conclusion.
I personally haven’t yet been able to prove Q is anything other than one of many trolls back in the 4chan days who claimed to be an anonymous insider. I don’t think that the “coincidences” are infinitesimally unlikely. I think that you guys are just interpreting anything that might seem related to a vague prophecy as being confirmed (confirmation bias).
How many different times have people here said, “watch the water” in response to a random news story involving water? Charles Flynn, the hospital ships off Cali, the Evergiven, flooding, and even the Texas ice storm.
And when none of those actually turned out to be anything productive for Q, it gets memory-holed until someone find that particular interpretation of “watch the water” useful again.
That’s why I’m trying to focus mostly on the smoking gun for Q. Because people have claimed a LOT of proof for non-falsifiable entities like Q or God by citing what they interpret to be a string of unlikely coincidences, rather than them seeing and interpreting non-events according to a worldview that is based on faith.
And downvoting doesn’t bother me. I have a thick-enough skin to handle disapproval. :)
Who Q is does not matter. What Q has done is what matters.
Millions now see that News, Finance, Politics, Health, Courts, Business, Pharmaceuticals, Banks.... are all connected by a dark purpose. Millions know blackmail controls the public face puppets. Millions understand false flag operations, can spot them, and can sometimes even counter those operations. Millions are prepared to resist because of Q.
Gee, I believe that falls under “Q Supporters ONLY” guideline? We don’t need to spend what little valuable time we get each day convincing or defending to a Reddit Q-denying faggot ANYTHING. You Sir, can fuck right-OFF 🖕🏻
How am I (or most of us) enabling their plan? We’re trying to wake people up toThe Plan To Save The World here. That’s not extremism or helping in any division. Maybe I’m missing your point, OP? And yes, I fully agree that an open/inquisitive mind is preferable to ANY extremist’s rhetoric. Aren’t we inquisitive? Reddit people who ADMIT they’re anti-Q aren’t open & inquisitive...they’re here to divide us.
We’re trying to wake people up toThe Plan To Save The World here.
By antagonizing even those who, despite believing otherwise, remain civil in discussing the issue?
Reddit people who ADMIT they’re anti-Q aren’t open & inquisitive...they’re here to divide us.
If I saw any such evidence from ARandomOgre I would be pointing it out. He raises fair points, though those are not free of well deserved critique. But his posts are unlike what I generally find on the Qult subreddit, which are really just FB tier shitposts.
Regardless, you're certainly not going to convince anyone of the very real enemy that we are facing by shitting on them for not believing in a batch of 4000 chan posts. It takes significant time and effort to study those and the entire establishment is dead-set on painting them as "flat earth lizard people" tier bullshit. If you want to wake people up, imagine you're them and then think of how you would react if the roles were reversed.
Maybe we live in different realities, but I doubt that telling people to fuck off or assuming you can mind-read their position and beliefs is going to be very fruitful in "trying to wake people up".
NCSWIC, so it really shouldn’t matter what I’m here to do as long as I’m being respectful. I am not interested in constantly reassuring people otherwise. Either trust Q that I am incapable of hurting your movement, or don’t.
Yes.
Well… correct… I base my beliefs about reality on evidence. I don’t pick which evidence to accept based on my beliefs.
I am looking for proof that Q MUST be who he claims to be, someone with access to the info he claims to have.
I am looking for proof that makes it literally impossible for Q to be some unimpressive mid-20’s troll.
I am not rejecting the AF1 photos because they don’t support MY belief. I’m still looking at the evidence.
I am rejecting those photos because as far as I can tell, they don’t support YOUR belief.
The entire body of work of Q is what proves that. There is no chance that an "unimpressive mid-20's troll" could have produced 5% of what Q did.
Q was an insider of some type. It could reasonably be debated which side Q was on, but the idea that he was just a troll, which implies no inside knowledge, only shows that you have not read much (or any) of Q's actual writings.
If you have not read any or much of Q's writing, and yet you have concluded that he might be an "unimpressive mid-20's troll," then it is reasonable to conclude that you are a troll.
I have read most, if not all of Q’s posts, and have been unable to prove that any of them couldn’t be fabricated by a bored news junkie.
That doesn’t make me a troll. From my perspective, it makes me a skeptic. From yours, it probably makes me an idiot.
But I’ve promised a lot of people here, including at least one mod, that I will be here if the Plan comes to fruition so you can all rub in my face how much smarter than me you are. So I intend to wait for the Plan and be here at the end, one way or the other.
I’m saying exactly the same thing that you guys are saying. I’m just saying that I reached a different conclusion using those methods. There is nothing remotely trollish about that. In fact, that is exactly how the scientific peer review process works.
First off, I wish people wouldn't downvote you and would like to thank you for actually engaging in a civil manner.
I'm sure we can all agree, left, right or center, that there are countless corrupt figures trying to screw all of us over without being held accountable.
As such, the only way to heal as a planet is to come together regardless of beliefs and to actually discuss, with a serious and open mind, the possibilities.
Thus, I am more than interested in knowing precisely what you have done in your attempt to research and what you have seen so far.
Would you care if I kindly asked you to start a thread in which you go into as much detail as you possibly can? I understand that this could take a lot of time out of your day, but perhaps that can help others fill in some gaps.
As far as 100% conclusive proof is concerned. I don't think that's possible without the person / group behind the account coming out and exposing the entire thing as real or larp.
That said, there are countless pieces of suspiciously precise coincidences. Now, given the volume of posts and the emphasis on "think mirror", time deltas and whatnot, it's the first valid working hypothesis is that someone is throwing shit around and seeing what sticks to the wall.
That explanation, however, quickly ceases to function due to the needlepoint precision of so many of those coincidences.
Which in turn leaves a number of possible options:
Q is real, the individual/team have access to certain key figures to make those coincidences (news, actions) possible, and:
or
Q is a larp, and:
All that in mind, you have to sift through quite a volume of pieces of evidence to start getting a sense of what is happening, along with reading the drops themselves to get a clearer picture of what we're looking at if real.
Well, discussion is one thing, saying the same thing over and over is quite another. The "enlightened" attitude of smarminess they project is just annoying. They claim to want to save all the poor schmucks from believing a lie, thus proving they are smarter. They have the same attitude about Christianity, they want to "save us" from our religious delusion, b/c Richard Dawkins told them we believe in a spaghetti monster. The people that keep stating Q is a larp are the same people that spend 5 minutes reading the Bible(which now makes them a biblical expert), pull a scripture out apply it completely out of context, then say unilaterally religion is bad, and God is fill in the blank label to prove their point. There was a an idiot in the flat earth thread the other day doing just this.
They do the same with the Q drops. Pull out a random number drop, say this didn't happen therefore I.M. smart U R dum. They miss the entire message, not just parts of it. They miss the main point, and that is people who have the means to help, are doing just that, they know what is going on, and are alerting you to what is to come. Hmmm isn't God doing the same thing with the N.T., showing you how to correct yourself, and help others prior to what will come in revelations? You can't simply remove one number out of formula or equation, then say math doesn't work, you can't take a single drop out of the ocean and then claim there is no such thing, a cat or dog isn't a single hair.
The Q drops encompass a lot of information, taken at once it can be overwhelming, but there are parts of it everyone can understand w/o issue and b/c of that, you now have a starting point based on the things you do now. You can now start researching the things you don't know and tie it to what you already understand. That is the big key to the drops, YOU are doing the research and investigating, all we are given are slight nods, nudges, and bit of clarity, then we are off to the races. The drops got people to look for themselves instead of being spoon fed garbage as these young skulls full of mush are at the paid daycare, I mean university. Some of us have been looking into things that didn't make sense for quite a long time. The Q drops helped fill in the missing pieces, take any aha moment you have had, and that is what the Q drops enabled.
As far as proofs go, there are a lot of them. No, I am not going to list them out b/c at this point in time, if you don't know any of them you haven't been paying attention. There is a point when we need to stop going into remedial mode for every so called new person, who typically is a lefty trying to prove there is no such thing as Q. Peruse through the "book of Q"( it is poorly named imo), there are several very very good videos that lay out proofs.
Now if we could only get people to study the Bible in the same manner, we'll have made some serious progress.
I’ve been talking with the Q community since the 8chan days. I probably have more time around this than a lot of current GAW users. And I look at every piece of evidence that comes through, as far as I am able.
I don’t like the idea of making a giant thread with me tearing down Q, because that’s not really why I hang out here. I am just trying to see how we both look at the same piece of evidence and come to different conclusion.
I personally haven’t yet been able to prove Q is anything other than one of many trolls back in the 4chan days who claimed to be an anonymous insider. I don’t think that the “coincidences” are infinitesimally unlikely. I think that you guys are just interpreting anything that might seem related to a vague prophecy as being confirmed (confirmation bias).
How many different times have people here said, “watch the water” in response to a random news story involving water? Charles Flynn, the hospital ships off Cali, the Evergiven, flooding, and even the Texas ice storm.
And when none of those actually turned out to be anything productive for Q, it gets memory-holed until someone find that particular interpretation of “watch the water” useful again.
That’s why I’m trying to focus mostly on the smoking gun for Q. Because people have claimed a LOT of proof for non-falsifiable entities like Q or God by citing what they interpret to be a string of unlikely coincidences, rather than them seeing and interpreting non-events according to a worldview that is based on faith.
And downvoting doesn’t bother me. I have a thick-enough skin to handle disapproval. :)
Who Q is does not matter. What Q has done is what matters.
Millions now see that News, Finance, Politics, Health, Courts, Business, Pharmaceuticals, Banks.... are all connected by a dark purpose. Millions know blackmail controls the public face puppets. Millions understand false flag operations, can spot them, and can sometimes even counter those operations. Millions are prepared to resist because of Q.
Gee, I believe that falls under “Q Supporters ONLY” guideline? We don’t need to spend what little valuable time we get each day convincing or defending to a Reddit Q-denying faggot ANYTHING. You Sir, can fuck right-OFF 🖕🏻
I'd take an open and inquisitive mind over either side's extremists any day.
Their game is divide and conquer. You're part of the people enabling them and their plan.
How am I (or most of us) enabling their plan? We’re trying to wake people up toThe Plan To Save The World here. That’s not extremism or helping in any division. Maybe I’m missing your point, OP? And yes, I fully agree that an open/inquisitive mind is preferable to ANY extremist’s rhetoric. Aren’t we inquisitive? Reddit people who ADMIT they’re anti-Q aren’t open & inquisitive...they’re here to divide us.
Correct...
By antagonizing even those who, despite believing otherwise, remain civil in discussing the issue?
If I saw any such evidence from ARandomOgre I would be pointing it out. He raises fair points, though those are not free of well deserved critique. But his posts are unlike what I generally find on the Qult subreddit, which are really just FB tier shitposts.
Regardless, you're certainly not going to convince anyone of the very real enemy that we are facing by shitting on them for not believing in a batch of 4000 chan posts. It takes significant time and effort to study those and the entire establishment is dead-set on painting them as "flat earth lizard people" tier bullshit. If you want to wake people up, imagine you're them and then think of how you would react if the roles were reversed.
Maybe we live in different realities, but I doubt that telling people to fuck off or assuming you can mind-read their position and beliefs is going to be very fruitful in "trying to wake people up".
ARandomOgre only pretends to be inquisitive. If you engage him directly he will flake out and go back to his weak attempts to undermine our community.
Make no mistake - he's here to deceive, not to learn.
NCSWIC, so it really shouldn’t matter what I’m here to do as long as I’m being respectful. I am not interested in constantly reassuring people otherwise. Either trust Q that I am incapable of hurting your movement, or don’t.