Can powdered whey protein be stocked long term as an emergency food supply and substitute animal protein if there's none avaliable ?
EDIT: Asking on behalf of a couple friends who drink it every day in the gym and said they could fetch a good supply on short notice if it's useful.
Beef jerky/hydrated meat would be a better source of protein. Cheaper, too.
If you can afford it, a freeze drying machine is THE WAY TO GO.
You can freeze dry all sorts of food, it will last many, many years (20 years in some cases), and when you re-hydrate it tastes like fresh.
By far, the #1 way to go. But machines are expensive. Always tradeoffs.
To add to you statement, buy an air fryer, I make jerky with mine out of cheaper cuts of meat, for instance you can buy flank steak, or even sirloin and make it. My fiance bought me an air fryer for Christmas two years ago, and I used it until it died, and demanded we invest in a new one right away, they sell for fairly cheap too, And have a backup still in the box from big lots that was only 34 dollars. My most favorite kitchen item EVER.
We wanted to get an air fryer but my sister said hers stunk up the smell never went away and they have to put it outdoors to use.
May I ask what brand you had..because we really want one..but can’t put it outdoors for the greater part of the year (weather).
My first one did have a smell the first few times I used it, it was a nu wave brio, but it died within a year, we currently have a magic chef model, I posted a picture of it in my last comment, I don't remember having the issue with that plastic smell she was talking about with the magic chef model, and it's never let me down, it's also easy to clean, makes excellent chicken and pork chops, frozen fries actually taste fantastic instead of weird like a conventional oven.
Magic chef..it’s on my list now.
Thanks for taking the time to respond Fren!
"demanded we buy a new one," lol, Is there a brand you recommend?
I know, that sounds so bad, but it's true! I told him I would die without a replacement, I use it that much, He agreed quickly enough though, since I do all the cooking, and he likes it that way. I have a magic chef model now, not sure what the model is, but it looks like an egg😆
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Thanks! I keep seeing people online say they love their air fryers and couldn't live without them. I'm behind the times with kitchen appliances. I don't even have an instantpot and have recently been thinking it might be a good thing to have. Appreciate the info.
We just got the Cuisinart TOA65 from Best Buy. Skeptical hubby thinks it's the best thing ever. Very pleased with it so far! ( We didn't have a toaster oven, so that's why I picked it. )
Skeptical hubby, lol. It's always good when skeptical hubbys are pleasantly surprised. Thanks for the tip.
He wasn't happy that I "bumped " our price up for the TOA65 model over the TOA60, but I thought it would be worth it in the long run. He works from home, and has used it every day! The tater tots and fish sticks were surprisingly amazing. He also cooked chicken breast in it and liked that he didn't have to wait for the oven or the grill. Nachos are great because they crisp your chips. I have zucchini to crisp this weekend.
Good idea.
Do you have a freeze dryer? Can you recommend a brand?
i think there is only 1 company that makes home freeze dryers - HarvestRight dot com. We have one & it is well worth the money. Since ours arrived (Mid-April) it has run non-stop. They are a bit expensive tho.
Okay, thanks for the info. Is it relatively easy to use? Do you mind saying what 'a bit expensive is?' lol.
It is super simple to use. The unit cost about $5k for the large. Not sure of the other sizes. They are located in Utah and a very nice group of people to deal with. When we ordered ours, they advised there was a 12 week lag time, but it arrived in 2 weeks.
Thanks. You ain't kidding! 5K is a lot. They must be selling them fast though. I know that the freeze dried food you can buy is costly and wondered if doing your own would be worth it. Will have to ponder that. Thanks, fren. I appreciate it!
What ever the consensus finally indicates, I think it would be a good idea to research what plants, weeds, grasses that grow naturally in your area that you could access for Vitamin C and other essential Vitamins.
Florida has many plants that we consider weeds, that are actually editable. The Sourgrass that most of us chewed on as kids, can be a source of V-C for example. Cat Tails that grow in low areas, the root is fully of vitamins. Boil some pine needles, and I think that has some V-C.
None of that stuff will provide any protein, though, and protein plus fatty acids are the building blocks of the human body, not vitamins.
Where the in my comment did I indicate anywhere that the stuff I suggested was a source of protein? I said no matter what is the consensus, meaning no matter if comments indicate whey is good emergency source of protein, that it would be helpful to find out what things in nature can also help provide other essentials.
OP was asking about protein.
Eat a democrat. Heart, Liver, Kidneys best. Cook extremely well. Stay away from the brain, it's composed entirely of crapola.
Beans are a cheap and easy source of protein and fiber.
Here's a link to one site - more out there....20 year shelf life
https://readyhour.com/products/powdered-whey-milk-93?_pos=2&_sid=6124ae1b1&_ss=r
Cattails have almost everything to live off. Not sure if this helps also many mushrooms have various proteins.
Dear Lord, do not tell people to eat wild mushrooms! As an avid outdoorsman, you never eat wild mushrooms. It's akin to playing russian roulette. Differentiating between poisonous and non-poisonous takes a careful eye and knowledge of where they grow. Besides, other than trace elements, mushrooms are not a good source of protein, fat, vitamins or fiber. Avoid it all costs unless you are an expert.
Dry, powdery foods I store after putting through a Food Saver. I have flour, powdered milk, powdered eggs, oatmeal in these pouches.
Things like beans and rice I store in mason jars with air sucked out with Food Saver attachment.
Anything with meat I pressure can. Last night I had homemade chix soup with noodles I wanted to use up. The soup was over 10 years old but still delicious. I do low-salt soups a lot in case water is not available when SHTF.
Yes it's a good source of protein,you can also buy 25 lbs. Of beans for around 20 and a 5 gallon bucket made for food to store them in for 10 with the lid. Also rice and Roaled oats for about the same. Oats are good,cause they do not need to be cooked,to eat.
You can but it isn't ideal as a a source of protein. It is best used as a supplement to get more protein into a diet that already contains it. Also most types of whey don't digest particularly well and can upset your stomach.
Powdered eggs are good too!
I have some but plan to rotate it after a year or two. I'd like to hear from someone in the know. Also would like to know more about those mylar bags.
different thickness of mylar last different times (theoretically - no direct knowledge). The standard recommendation for 20-30 years shelf life is 7mil
okay, thanks.
Put it in a Mylar bag, drop in a oxygen absorber, seal it with a flat iron, good for 20 years. If you pull the oxygen out of the bag it creates a vacuum and any eggs from Boll weevil are killed and/or prevented from hatching.
Since you seem to be in the know, would it be necessary to do this with other things, such as rice and beans? Currently they are in their original plastic bags. Thanks.
It wouldn't hurt, if you want it to stay fresh for 20 years, yes I would do it. I do have some beans stored in Tupperware. I don't think you have to worry about bugs with beans. Rice would be questionable. Flour, cornmeal or any ground wheat or corn, yes definitely.
It is a very cheap process. You can get everything you need for under $40.
Store all the sealed bags in rubbermaid totes, I had 20 lb bag of rice stored in the pantry in our basement, it came in a doulbe layered paper bag, mice got in to it.
Oh, that's too bad. But thanks for the info and I do think I'll get the mylar to be on the safe side. Cheers.
Typical shelf life is between 9-19 months. Some say two years and reports of 3 years with no ill effects. It is a good source of protein and can definitely provide you with easy sustenance. I camp and hike with whey protein for emergencies. Light weight and packed with protein. Powdered eggs are a definite alternative. Freeze dried foods are expensive but worth it. The shelf life offsets the cost, most are labelled as 20-25 years, but in reality, as long as they are sealed and kept from moisture and oxygen, the shelf life is indefinite. Temperature is also a factor, cool and dry is a good food storage mantra.
Thank you and everyone who answered. I'll call my buddies and have me included in the purchase. They said the discounts are even bigger if bought in bulk.
Check out 4Patriots supply. Epoch Times is sponsored by them. They have a link in their page that gets some pretty fantastic bonus material. The solar kettle is very cool, plus 2 EA 72 hour freeze dried packs, plus some other really great stuff. The price as $597 plus tax, but tax is around $11 for food. I just bought a 3 month kit from Mypatriot supply, for the exact same price through a sponsor link through Bongino's website. I didnt get the bonus stuff. Kinda tempted to place another order, but its still $600 bucks even with free shipping. Not sure if im ready to throw another $600 down. The other difference is the kit is bought was 2k calories per day and the one with bonuses is 1500, not really a big deal for me, but it can be broken down by price per calories, do something to consider. Good luck!
If stored properly, yes. It has a shelf life of about a year, but will keep as long as 18 months in cool, dry conditions. It will provide you the same nutrition as cooked meat in a pinch.