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I just feel like voting should be tied to your taxes. If you pay into the system and file your taxes, then you get a say about WHO and HOW the system operates. Submit/efile your taxes, collect a ballot.
posted 4 years ago by Womp_Womp2020 4 years ago by Womp_Womp2020 +68 / -0

Clearly some logistical issues to work out... But the point is simple.

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– Q20191776 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

When did our founding fathers implement taxes? Is it n our Constitution?

Asking for a friend...

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– MAG768720 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

So ... you wanna vote in proportion to how much a slave you are to the system you are voting for?

Get the federal government back to the Constitution and the income tax rate will be 0% once again.

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– mjs001 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

That was the exact reason that originally only land-owners were allowed to vote. The only tax in the country was property tax, and the founding fathers felt only those with a financial stake in the country should be allowed to vote.

They were smart enough to know that if those who didn't pay taxes could vote, then politicians would buy votes by promising to take money from the wealthy and redistribute it. They knew the key weakness of socialism - sooner or later you run out of other people's money.

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– CherokeePede 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

exactly this.

Money is the issue, not voting.

Everyone votes. No one pays federal taxes.

Clean the coruption out and never let it go astray again.

Hell, if it werent for the monopoly the extremely wealthy have over the populace, more people would have more money anyways. Nullifying the ability to buy their vote.

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– MisprisionIsEvil 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

There should be no personal, Federal income tax. It's evil.

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– cathole953 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There really is a simple solution to this. Tie the right to vote to property tax. As others have pointed out, only landowners were originally allowed to vote, which was tied to the only tax in the country at the time, the property tax. If you don't have a financial stake in the future of our country you shouldn't be allowed to vote in elections that effect the rest of us.

Of course there ARE problems with that line of thinking in terms of the modern world. Not everyone who has a financial stake in the country is a farmer anymore, and of course service men deserve to vote. So here's what I'd personally suggest.

Tie the right to vote to property tax, and allow for a handful of exception. If you've complete a tour of duty with the armed forced, you have a life time exemption and have earned your right to vote for life. Likewise, a business owner would have to file a special form on their taxes to confirm their status so as to allow them the right to vote.

Likewise, I suggest that people who rent instead of own their house/apartment (because it's unfeasible to expect people in NYC, LA, Miami, Atlanta, etc. to own their own homes) be allowed the option to sign a net lease rental in order to pay property taxes so as to allow them the right to vote. I know this is already a thing, but I'm saying to regulate it differently so that it becomes an industry option instead of a mild rarity. Obviously this would be cause an increase in rent, but if you can't afford a house because of limited availability, this would allow people to pay property taxes to get the right to vote.

That being said I can already the liberal whining over how this is unfair and essentially a poll tax because people would have to pay to vote. Which is how it should be in the first place to prevent unemployed morons from voting for the rest of us.

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– cathole953 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'm so sick of that stupid narrative. Blackrock in undoubtedly cabal, but they're NOT causing the housing crisis. Just look at the freaking public shareholder reports. Know how much real estate they bought last year? $20 million. Which included commercial real estate. Real estate in the US is a trillion dollar industry. So far this year I believe they've only bought something like $10-15 million in real estate, including commercial real estate again.

The real reason for the current housing crisis is because of a combination of the stupid eviction moratoriums preventing evictions, mass interstate migration, and supply chains being intentionally sabotaged by corporations to manufacture shortages.

As for the stupid thing about gates somehow magically buying up all the farmland and natural resources. He only owns 250K acres. Know how many acres of agricultural land are in the US? More than a Billion acres. Contrary to what everyone seems to believe, just because you're a member of the cabal, doesn't mean every single thing you do has some evil intention behind. Sometimes it's just smart investment decisions.

Right now, Farmland is the safest investment. In fact, if you would research it, you'd see that farmland and ranchland has seen a massive influx in terms of investors in the past couple years because people are trying to find ways to retain their equity in the coming economic collapse they see. Hence real estate and land, being the two safest asset classes, seeing absurd increase in investments.

So no, black rock is not going to own everything, and the WEF is going to fail in their stupid attempt to force communism onto us all, just like the rest of the cabal is in free fall.

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– cathole953 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Never been to that hellhole, and never intend to.

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– GridSquaresBoxOf 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So disabled veterans that live off of their service related disability compensation, and are not taxed on that money should not get to vote? Is that what you are saying?

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– Womp_Womp2020 [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

A veteran should qualify for 2 votes. They were willing to die for this country. They deserve more than I'll ever be able to give.

Again, I acknowledged some logistical issues.

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– PompeiusMagnus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Taxation is theft.

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– JulesW 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, just say no to fucking taxes.

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– Darth_Pepe 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe not the best idea, but it’s an improvement over what we’ve got. I’m with ya. I was thinking we need some sort of test to prove you understand America’s foundings coupled with proof that you understand the modern platforms. In short: prove that you understand what you are actually voting for.

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– SOTUisFUBAR 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What about something along the lines of DMV records also automatically enroll eligible voters. They already keep track of criteria such as license class/CDL, corrective lenses, organ donor etc. Do they track whether citizens or not? If not this shouldn't be hard to add. Then you can show up to vote, they scan your ID, see you're a citizen and eligible to vote and you're verified.

This could also increase voter turn out as well.

This popped to mind last trip I made to the DMV a couple years ago.

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– Magamyrs 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Simply F#ck up why would anyone in their rite mind want the Criminal IRS or the Criminal Federal Government to be in charge of votes??? You are a F#cling Moron !

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Many people on Social Security don’t pay taxes. So by your model, anybody who’s worked their entire life paying taxes into a system just to get a few bucks back for them self, and don’t pay taxes now, would be opted out. Not a very good idea

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