So a friend of mine has some symptoms that could be anything. He is one of us, maybe a little more skeptical, but definitely won't take the jab and knows evil people are running things. Anyway, he isn't feeling well, no fever, but has headache, the shits and major fatigue. He knows it is likely a stomach bug, but still has concerns about it being covid. My brother and I gave him info to contact frontline doctors. If they think it's covid I will give him my HCQ while he waits for his order to arrive.
My question is, Dr. Zelenko says take treatment on suspicion, but get tested. We all know the PCR test is bullshit. I haven't seen debate about the antigen test. Is that worth getting for him? Is it even available?
What sucks the most is we know it is people getting tested that causes the cases to spike. My brother and I have said we will never get tested. But, I don't want to push our friend to not get tested and be wrong.
He has been taking Zelenko's supplement prophlyaxis for 2 weeks.
Any advice, what would you do? Hopefully frontline doctors calls him tomorrow, or he feels great by morning, he has been feeling these symptoms for a few days, he did spend Saturday on a boat drinking in the hot sun, maybe that was enough to do this. I don't know. Any thoughts?
Sounds like your friend as influenza
no fever though, the flu usually has a fever.
It sucks to take a Covid PCR test knowing the truth about them but a positive Covid test is starting to look like one of the best ways to fight the vaccine and the mandates with more and more info coming out that Natural Immunity is stronger than the vaccine. Also, people are starting to come out of the woodwork suing for Natural Immunity Excemption. I am personally n the process of fighting my work mandate on Natural Immunity!
that is an interesting take. Even if false positive helps him with possible vax mandates. double edged sword though, every positive test gives them more fear porn. I plan on feeding him with info from these posts, it is his decision, but the more info the better.
I absolutely agree but at one time those positives were working against us now those same positives can be used to fight them and he has a chance to help others by teaching people a treatment protocol. I have two or three people a week reach out to me through friends asking what helped me fight Covid-19, I researched my own symptoms and treated myself. The fear is stopping people from seeking early treatment or no treatment.
thanks for your thoughts. I will pass them along.
If you never take the test you won’t be a statistic— do you people run to get tested if you think you have the flu ? I’ve never had a flu shot and had measles mumps and rubella and a lot of stuff but -/ never used or owned hand sanitizer—? I’m way over 65 and depend on my natural immunity— never a vaccine, mask, hand wash crap or any of the other stuff they want to impose— careful young peds- this communism sneaks up on you while you are living life—
I know you are right. I don't believe any of this shit. but it is easier for me to take that stance for myself than others. hopefully he just feels better tomorrow and it is over. Testing plays into the hands of the enemy.
Couldn't agree more! I'm 60 and have never had a flu shot, never been tested and won't get tested because I don't want to be a part of their statistics that will only be manipulated for evil purposes.
My 30 year old daughter had sore throat and felt funky-/ gargled with salt water and took ziacam — didn’t have Covid or any symptoms of Delta but didn’t get tested and was well 2 days later— it’s colds etc - get over it
Update Thanks for all the comments.
My friend said he is definitely improving this morning. Still sore, but can tell he is getting better. False alarm....fuckin fear porn, were his comments.
so he did not get tested, I told him to get the meds from AFDL just in case.
Any clinical test will have well-defined sensitivity and specificity. These outline the likelihood of getting the correct result vs getting a false positive or a false negative. It depends on a lot of factors for each individual test. A warning like this is common to pretty much any test for anything out there.
I’m say this as someone who is a firm believer that many of the PCR tests out there were complete bullshit- they had a very high false positive rate due to being over-cycled.
Update Thanks for all the comments.
My friend said he is definitely improving this morning. Still sore, but can tell he is getting better. False alarm....fuckin fear porn, were his comments.
so he did not get tested, I told him to get the meds from AFDL just in case.
Sounds a lot like dehydration from alcohol/ sun/ diarrhea etc. get extra fluid intake.
that is what we are thinking, but you know how everyone is will all the fear porn. I told him to hydrate
The antigen test is 50% accurate. In other words, use a quarter and flip it. The medical profession says it is not so much the quality of the antigen test, but the quantification of testing. So lets think about what that means. The antigen test gives a 50% accuracy. If I test a hundred times is the test any more accurate? No, its the same flip of the coin no mater how many time one flips it.
Do not take a test period. By doing so, one not only puts themselves in peril, but also are adding 'victims' to their SCAMDEMIC numbers.
Take Ivermectin, Zinc, and Vitamin D3 and C.
he is already taking zinc, d, c, quercetin, should get a call from america's front line doctors tomorrow to discuss, they will send hcq and/or ivermectin.
I agree with the no testing, I will share a ton of info with him in the morning and he will have to decide what to do.
Afld is so busy takes about 2 wks for them to get you scrip, better off getting paste taking for 5 days fixed an issue I've been having for months on my nuts. I also got better really fast
2 weeks ago, I got my hcq within 4 days, had my consult the next day. Either way I have HCQ I can give him if needed, would like to hear what they say by phone before treating.
It doesn't exist. They never isolated Covid.
Regarding the test, I personally wouldn't unless he has a comorbidity or is 65+. Dr. Peter McCullough gives a nice rundown of the illness timeline and the steps you need to take if you are a high risk person. https://www.americaoutloud.com/vaccinated-or-not-acute-covid-19-in-high-risk-patients-demands-early-treatment/ If your friend is low risk, I think a test is unnecessary and just following the "treatment" version of the Zelenko protocol and doing it early will be fine. McCullough gives his treatment plan for under 50 and healthy around the 14:00 minute mark.
He is low risk, low 40s, in very good physical shape, no comorbidities. the question is start taking hcq regimen or wait and see if he actually gets a fever.
Take it. I would do the whole protocol with ivermectin and all and assume he has it. It seems like he'll ride it out fine, but why go through the hassle of a drawn out illness. One thing that Dr. McCullough emphasizes is that early treatment is essential. Symptoms often start off mild during the viral replication phase, so people do nothing, but that's a mistake. Once it gets past that point, it gets progressively worse. This is how they killed people early on in the pandemic. They offered no treatment and sent people home and told them to wait it out and come back if they have trouble breathing. By then it's too late and they stick them on a ventilator. Your friend is likely not at risk for this scenario, but he might feel like crap in a week or so and then make a bad decision out of fear. So take care of it now.
good call, if he doesn't feel improved tomorrow, I will bring him my hcq and azithromcin i got from AFDL, have him get some from AFDL and replenish my supply.
I don't have ivermectin, but when AFDL calls him tomorrow he can get that as well.
Azithromycin is an antibiotic and can probably be saved for if/when his symptoms get worse. I think doing the vitamins and adding quercetin/HCQ and/or ivermectin is good enough, unless he shows more serious symptoms.
makes sense, will be interested to hear what AFLD tells him, hopefully they call tomorrow. I got meds from them, but am not sick and got to take as needed for possible future infection.
Update Thanks for all the comments.
My friend said he is definitely improving this morning. Still sore, but can tell he is getting better. False alarm....fuckin fear porn, were his comments.
so he did not get tested, I told him to get the meds from AFDL just in case.
Great to hear and good advice. Being prepared will eliminate fear in the future.
the fear of sickness comment is an interesting one. My friend is a pessimist, he has mentioned that he probably has covid a couple times. I don't worry about it, I haven't been sick in years. I worry more about others than myself though, it sounds like your concern is for others more than yourself too.
Is the question referring to "antigen" testing or to "antibody" testing?
the antigen test, as far as I know that is the only test that they do other than pcr that tests for current infection.
Ok, thanks...so the antibody test is testing for past infection, if I understood that correctly.
I treat symptoms. You can treat with over the counter medicine or natural medicine. It’s a personal choice. I still take things like Tylenol or ibuprofen if I need it. Some people 100% natural and would never take western medicine. There’s good videos on YouTube and articles online explaining natural medicine. If it was only cold type symptoms that’s easier to treat. If loose bowels go on to long it could be bacterial or food poisoning. Not every sickness is Covid! I don’t think you are saying it is. We can’t even get antibiotics at the doc because the medical society is living in fear.
https://theherbalacademy.com/seasonal-lethargy-fatigue/
(Not all Tea Brands are quality or non toxic) If you need recommendations just ask. If you are in large area stores should have organic,
I like Dr Axe website for general natural medicine information.
I don’t have a list, several supplements will help also. Hope all is well soon.
thanks, we are in NC, southern too, although we weren't born southern. we are already on C, D, Zinc and quercetin, the brat diet is a good one. Hoping he feels better when I text him tomorrow.
Your welcome. I’m born & raised, proud to be from North Cakalaky. Honestly, I haven’t been to a state I didn’t love.
I have been in NC since 1992, lived in CA and TX growing up. North Carolina is my home.
That’s awesome! I went to TX 2013 & I really want to go back. I flew over Baja going to HI 2011, that’s as close as I’ll probably get any time soon. NC has changed a lot since 1992. Wish you could have seen our beaches in the 70s.
Update Thanks for all the comments.
My friend said he is definitely improving this morning. Still sore, but can tell he is getting better. False alarm....fuckin fear porn, were his comments.
so he did not get tested, I told him to get the meds from AFDL just in case.
my in-laws have a place in Emerald Isle, I love taking the family there. Yes it has changed, the silicon valley of the south thing hasn't helped us. People get excited about higher home values, but the culture is lost.
Next time you go to EI take the time & drive to Harkers Island & that area. If you have boat go to Shakelford Banks & the Cape. If not there’s ferry services to take you over. Shakelford: There’s one that leaves from Beaufort near the Maritime Museum. I think it drops off & picks up hourly. Cape Lookout: The national park service has one that leaves from Harkers Island. Also independent ferry service is available. I love all of our coast, that part is most special to me. FYI: Harkers Island is replacing the bridge soon. That shouldn’t impact getting on the island. It’s the only way on.
will do, if they let me on the ferry without a mask, lol
Update Thanks for all the comments.
My friend said he is definitely improving this morning. Still sore, but can tell he is getting better. False alarm....fuckin fear porn, were his comments.
so he did not get tested, I told him to get the meds from AFDL just in case.
What would change by getting tested?
really nothing unless he wanted to get antibody treatment, they would require a positive test. He probably should wait, if symptoms get worse then do antibody and get some ivermectin i guess.
just wondering if he should start taking hcq now, or wait, Dr. Zelenko says HCQ is great if done early.
Only becoming a statistic for [them] to manipulate.
Update Thanks for all the comments.
My friend said he is definitely improving this morning. Still sore, but can tell he is getting better. False alarm....fuckin fear porn, were his comments.
so he did not get tested, I told him to get the meds from AFDL just in case.