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posted 4 years ago by EthnicEuropean 4 years ago by EthnicEuropean +370 / -0
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– SuckaFree 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Why is it, that we pedes have been ahead of all of this by about 6-12 mths? If not a longer margin? /r

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– Bully_Solution 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What's the difference between a 'conspiracy theory' and the 'truth'?

6 to 12 months.

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– pause_when_agitated 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

https://archive.is/GTQ32

Backed it up.

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– SemperSupra 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Look the expert blue checks on twitter and instagram assure me Ivermectin is just for horses and has no other uses. Clearly the triple-mask wearing Jabber know what they're talking about.

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– Phishhed44 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Oh I'm glad you posted this, I found it online and posted it too...sorry for the duplicate?! THIS IS HUGE THOUGH...I also put it on Twitter 👍🏼. The narrative now HAS TO CHANGE!

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– lanalex 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Blast it out there, pedes!

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– basilpesto 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Shizuoka Prefecture, 1877 - a man stands over a mound of glowing earth. His suit fabric thin, iridescent, vibrating. His determined large dark eyes, the only visible part behind the strange helmet, focused on the fragment in front of him...

"Control, this my 5th scan, another melted power cell.. I'm down to my last, but I need that to make the journey back"

"No, stay... remember your mission"

"Control..."

"The mission. Home is beyond our reach, the people of Earth need us."

"Understood. The air here.. is heavy, I feel heavy. I will age quickly."

"Sequence sent to your suit. Find a safe place away from civilization, initiate the Genesis-Protocol. Completion in one solar ortibal revolution. Cor... the protocol requires your last power-cell and remaining suit power, you will lose all ability to contact us.. and the effects are irriversable, do you understand?"

"I... Understand. And my mission when I awake?"

"Be part of humanity, guide only when necessary but stay in the shadows. Godspeed Cor, may you shine as bright as our home star, it was an honor."

...

Shizuoka Prefecture, 1978 - a dishevelved young man runs through the halls, stacks of papers in hand, almost running into the cart boy at the next turn, then falling head first into his office. Scurrying he gets up, picks up the telephone, calms himself and proceeds to dial the number passed down by his old benefactor.

"Mr. Cornelius.. it'a miracle, you were right!"

"Of course my boy, but I'm old so let's get on with it. Have you thought of a name?"

"Yes sir... Streptomyces avermitilis"

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– Camden105b 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is how they treat doctors who advocate for it.
https://www.kezi.com/content/news/Roseburg-doctor-advocates-for-Ivermectin-use-for-COVID-patients-despite-CDCs-warning-against-it-575226791.html

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– Recyclops 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

pFizer pFDA pFactcheck: mostly unprofitable untrue.

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– Qaniso 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

this too. https://ivmmeta.com/

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– SuckaFree 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I showed this study to a Dr who just saw my daughter for a sinus & ear infection and he said this was bunk. So, in my better judgement, told him he was full of shit.

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– swimkin 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I gave all the links to studies I could find on HCQ and Ivermectin and gave them to my physician. I saw her last may and she hadn't seen anything yet about HCQ being effective. When I saw her again in August I handed her the studies and she admitted she had seen promise with HCQ but hadn't heard of anyone using Ivermectin for COVID. I gave her the Zelenko protocol too.

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– Camden105b 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They are coming down VERY hard on doctors who prescribe it. It is just insane.

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– Unitymyass 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Prophylactic or late treatment .... both effective

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– DoMagnum 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Shocking. First World medicine has been turned to shit. Our Doctors suck ass. "I was only following protocols (orders)." Didn't work in Nuremburgh too well. I hope these criminals are held responsible too.

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– Moose_Antlers 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Firstly, I wanted to add a link for those doing research on IVM to this meta-analysis which is well-conducted, well-researched, and continually updated, though, due to the way it is updated, it is not peer-reviewed or published (though obviously the work they include in the meta is peer-reviewed and published). IVM Meta link

As I'm reading this one, a few thoughts:

  1. This is a literature review. It is not definitive "proof" of anything. Only randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trials (RCTs) can prove causation. Observational studies can only prove correlation.
  2. The journal itself is legit. Always verify your sources. This one is supported by Wolters-Kluwer which is an institution in pharmacology. They publish the textbooks. They maintain the Lexicomp drug database. These people are serious people, not a fly-by-night journal that publishes anything they get their hands on.
  3. The lead author doesn't seem to be a practicing physician. He's a former critical care specialist who now works for the controversial Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) which has become a target of the usually leftist hate machine. His CV can be found at FLCCC's website here. Always be skeptical when politically active people instead of practicing physicians write such articles, due to possibility of bias. Use discernment.
  4. The actual RCTs they're citing in the review are all small, and some show mixed results. It's not strong evidence, and any properly trained physician would be skeptical here. It looks promising, but we'd all want a big, well-conducted RCT to point to and we don't have that yet.
  5. Their meta-analysis is helpful, but with such a small number of RCTs, it has to be carefully considered. The other meta-analysis I linked to is better, IMO, though I suspect the difference is the lag in getting something edited, peer-reviewed, and actually published (often takes months).
  6. The Forest plots looks better for time to recovery (only 1 crosses unity) than for mortality (several RCTs cross unity, meaning their results may be random chance).
  7. Their studies for prophylaxis look the best and yet they didn't do a Forest plot for that. I don't understand that decision. It would have seemed to be a slam dunk they'd want to include.
  8. CDC hasn't updated their recommendations in over 6 months. They're not looking for cures. They're swatting them down. NIH isn't funding much in terms of new research either. Reading through clinicaltrials.gov, there are only 6-7 trials being conducted in the US at all. They're all small, all combination therapies, nothing that's going to definitively answer the question any time soon. Given the literally tens of billions of dollars at stake here, you'd think it'd be a higher priority to test a cheap, readily available, and generally safe drug, whose production can easily be scaled up to meet a global demand.

If I were looking at this review for any other treatment for any other disease, I'd use the word "promising" rather than anything reflecting certainty to describe IVM as a treatment. And I'd want more study data, specifically bigger studies and studies done in Western populations (most of these are done in the 3rd world, so we're seeing a significant demographic bias).

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– greeneggsnham 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Can anyone comment on the medical community's view of this journal's credibility/eminence?

I'm all for this thesis and conclusion, but it can hurt our own credibility if presenting an article a journal publisher that's regarded poorly in the medical community.

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– Moose_Antlers 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It's a legit journal. Steps you can take to look:

  1. Go to the journal's own website and look for their "About us" link. Read what they have to say. Legit journals all sort of have the same mission.
  2. They're supported by Wolters-Kluwer. You can dig on them. These guys are an institution in medical education. They publish the well known Goodman & Gilman's text any nursing, pharmacy, or medical student will read. They also publish and maintain the Lexicomp drug database, which is IMHO the best of the ones out there.
  3. Look up their impact factor. Higher = better and indicates that they're publishing good work that other people also cite in their papers. The New England Journal of Medicine is always at the top of the list. This one sits at ~1.9 this year which is respectable, but not one of the top 10. They're also trending up year over year.

Also, you should check the authors, especially the lead author (who presumably did the most work) and the last author (who is typically the guy who runs the lab and coordinated the project).

  1. Search their name in the search engine of your choice
  2. Look at their CV and credentials
  3. Are they a practicing physician? An academic physician/professor? Or are they something else?
  4. Are they politically active or otherwise controversial? Have they had papers withdrawn or retracted in the past?

This one's lead author is politically active with the FLCCC which has become a major target for all of the usual suspects we've learned to "trust" at CDC, FDA, the Biden "administration", Big Pharma, and their allies in the media. The "fact-checkers"/political commissars have had this guy in their crosshairs, so he's stirred up quite the hornet's nest.

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– SmartGuy 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Covid 19 doesnt exist ive been posting for like a year about how viruses are not contagious still yall cant figure it out

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I got the illest I have ever been with the 'rona last year.

There's also plenty of money which goes into bioweapons research such as gain-of-function. All over the world.

Do you think the military industrial complex is wasting their money developing viral bioweapons?

I think you need to research more. You need to research as well as being a smart guy. You can't know everything in your own head upfront.

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