I've been getting conflicting answers on these questions and would love a firsthand credible source if anyone knows the answers.
-Is the legally-distinct COMIRNATY jab available in the US (to be distinguished from the EAU version, identical or not)? I have a liberal friend who claims his grandfather received it last month in California and that doesn't compute with what I've read on this site. Made me feel like an idiot.
-Was there ever an official FDA approval for COMIRNATY for ANY age range? The waters have been super muddy regarding this issue but surely after several weeks to read through the paperwork SOMEONE must have an answer by now?
Would love to have these questions resolved once and for all, I think all of us would benefit to have the facts, whether we like them or not.
EDIT: Thank you all for your responses. Seems there is still some disagreement, but these seem to be the most sensible answers I've gained from this.
Question 1: Still not 100% certain but I'm leaning towards NO. I might follow up with my friend's grandfather's clinic to see if they had the actual COMIRNATY shot at the time of his injection. My guess is that they did not, and my friend was mistaken, but that will be hard to verify without a package insert to examine.
Question 2: From Jon Rappoport's letter, it seems that YES, the COMIRNATY shot DID receive full FDA approval for the older age group, while simultaneously receiving EUA for the younger age group.
I can't read the name of this shit stab without instead reading "Comorbidity."
Which is far more accurately descriptive.
That's seriously what I always picture when I try and say it
Haha can't unsee this
Really.
My mind literally swaps in “Comorbidity.” And I don’t argue.
I always think "Cominati".
Either way, it feels intential (Satanic) ASF to me. Glad others see as I do.
You won't find Comirnaty in the US. I talked with my lawyer for a long time about this.
I believe you but I'm looking for sharable firsthand sources if you happen to have one.
No one is saying they aren't the same product. This is purely about the legal distinction of EAU versus full FDA approval and whether the approval retroactively applies to existing batches of the Pfizer. My impression is that it does not.
The Comirnaty Vaccines won't be out until 2024 from what I've read in my own research. The narrative is that the current EUA vax and the Future Comirnaty vax are "interchangeable." Using this "interchangeable" terminology, they expect you to go jab yourself with the EXPERIMENTAL cocktail.
Haven't heard the 2024 figure myself but overall I have the same impression. I'm puzzled how my friend's grandfather could have received COMIRNATY if it's not available yet in the US. This seems like such a trivial question and it bothers me that we don't seem to know 100% yet.
I will tell you how. The doctor says "Yes yes, this is exactly Comirnaty" and they assume they got Comirnaty.
Yeah this is what I'm thinking as well
The only way to confirm is to look at the paperwork and see what it says on it.
Ask if your grandfather received the package insert of the “Comorbidity“ jab. If the vaxx he got was the FDA “approved” jab, it would have the package insert describing the contents, dosage information, and side effects. The burden of proof is on those who say the vaxx is FDA approved, not on us who say it just received an extended EUA. On the other hand, I wouldn’t trust anything the corrupt bought off FDA “approved“ nowadays! You can always show folks this. The status of the Pfizer jab is described in the first paragraph:
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-authorizes-booster-dose-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-certain-populations
Instead of being on the defensive, why not ask them to prove it with the package insert? If your word is not good enough why should theirs be?
Also, if you really want to dig into this, all you have to do is call up and ask around a few vaccine centers in that area and ask them whether they can provide vaccines that are actually labelled as Comirnaty.
I care because it's important to get the facts right when arguing with normies. Otherwise I just lose credibility if I repeat talking points that are apparently so easy to disprove. I'd like better sources so I can be more prepared.
So your liberal friend was present and physically observed the vial that was labeled Comirnaty?
Please tell me: Did your friend take a picture of the philosophers stone too while he grabbed one of the Comirnaty vial from which contents were distributed to his grandfather?
Did he provide you a picture of said vial?
I don't believe your liberal friend is being honest or upfront. The FDA said specifically that from their perspective, Comirnaty and Pfizer BioNTech Covid19 are interchangeable in usage. Legally though, the FDA announcement identified they are different and distinct.
Bottom line, I don't believe you lost any credibility outside of not properly questioning your friend on his incredible statement that from what you have shared thus far appears to be offered without proof.
How so?
You are kidding, right?
You can't tell the what the legal ramifications are between FDA approved and eua?
No matter what you believe about the fda, and know to be fact, it matters in legalities. Especially if you're holding onto a job by a thread.
It goes beyond that even, but fuck you have got to be kidding...
Try this on for size.
For someone to give you any drug,be it pill, gas, liquid drip, or injection it has to be on the drug billing lists.
Guess what. Its not there. It does not exist on a single drug schedule anywhere in the US.
What this means is no one can order it and no one therefor can administer it. Let alone bill for it.
Your friend is full of shit. I work in Healthcare data and I dont know anyone that could give you a more clear picture than I just did outside of Phizsr itself.
Incase someone on here is saying "Why didnt you bring this to us earlier" I didnt have direct access.
I understand Comirnaty is FDA approved, but not available in the US. You'll have to find the time line for when it is expected to be released as a booster shot in the US.
Also, I don't know if Comirnaty is the Pfizer mRNA vaxxine rebranded overseas or is somehow different. The booster shots here are not boosters at all but a full 3rd jab of the Pfizer mRNA vaxxine. This was pointed out by Dr. Jane Ruby.
I love the passion here. So Pfizer has provided a brand name to something that doesn't exist? That's really interesting. My widget will sell millions of dollars and we'll all be rich. That's reality. Not.
Look, the FDA provided a very deceitful announcement on August 23rd.
From the FDA website:
So according to the FDA, my statement is correct. Other sources like Jon Rappoport puts my statement into context. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine and Comirnaty are the same vaccine, medically speaking. The ingredients are the same.
And this vaccine “will now be marketed” as the Comirnaty vaccine.
Next, we move to a letter, also dated August 23, sent from the FDA to BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH, and Pfizer Inc. The letter is marked, “BLA Approval.” BLA stands for “Biologics License Application.” Here are key quotes:
“Please refer to your Biologics License Application (BLA) submitted and received on May 18, 2021, under section 351(a) of the Public Health Service Act (PHS Act) for COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA.”
“We are issuing Department of Health and Human Services U.S. License No. 2229 to BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH, Mainz, Germany…Under this license, you are authorized to manufacture the product, COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA…You may label your product with the proprietary name, COMIRNATY…”
The FDA officially licensed this vaccine. This is approval. It is not merely a continuation of Emergency Use Authorization (EAU).
And now we come to another key FDA document, a letter sent to Pfizer Inc. on August 23, 2021 (addressed to Ms. Elisa Harkins). It also mentions the full licensure (approval) of the vaccine:
“On August 23, 2021, FDA approved the biologics license application (BLA) submitted by BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older.”
This letter is further acknowledgement that the vaccine has been fully approved.
Now we enter the thick weeds of the letter, during a discussion of how Emergency Use Authorization will continue to be used. The language is very dense. It’s taken me a while to separate out the strands.
The “new vaccine”—which has full FDA approval—CONTINUES TO ALSO HAVE EUA STATUS—and therefore it too can be injected in people 12 and older, and used as a third dose for certain immunocompromised individuals.
Bottom line, and my conclusion: The FDA has fully approved the “new vaccine” AND it has also retained the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the “new vaccine.” Both.
You stated:
The hubris and ignorance here has besieged you, It's laughable. You failed your own test.
I've heard it's the exact same, but my opinion is that the legal distinction makes a hell of a difference.
Read Jon Rappoport's article on this. It explains it very well.
Thanks I'll take a look.
Bro do you have anything helpful to add to the conversation? Your snark is unnecessary and not appreciated.
Why would the FDA need to approve a vaccine that was not going to be distributed in the US.
Comirnaty like all drugs must have application submitted to the FDA for approval only if the company intends to distribute said drug/ vaccine in the US which happens to be the only nation where the FDA is authorized to regulate drugs.
Comirnaty as a vaccine has no set formula that would lock down it's composition or contents. It's basically the equivalent of a marketing vaporware product.
I've provided MI-Vet the facts above. His narrative is rather bankrupt. Again, I recommend reading the FDA statement and author and vaxxine expert Jon Rappoport's excellent article to understand why he's failing to understand the trickery and corruption that the FDA announcement presents. With his stating:
His own hubris and ignorance has besieged him. He failed his own IQ test.
The FDA is deceitful and about as corrupt of an agency as it can get. Their sole purpose is NOT to serve the health interests of the American public, but the interests of BIg Pharma.
Now that I have stated this. Let's look at the inevitable results of such a reality. FDA has long been a revolving door for Big Pharma executives being seated at the 'wheel house' of the FDA and vice versa. In addition, the CDC is in reality a Pharmaceutical company owning over 25 patents for vaccines and drugs.
All of this allows for the unbelievable usurpation of medical power in the US that we are now witnessing.. Not only is the FDA not following their own rules (regulations) without Congressional oversight, they are making rules willy-nilly as this COVID-19 democide continues. It is without congressional oversight. We are now seeing for the very first time all safety and efficacy regulations ignored and nullified. The FDA has approved Pfizer's mRNA vaxxine and maintained its EAU authority when the three phases for approval have not been completed. One can easily deduce that the American people are the experiment. What is outrageous is the FDA and their accomplices aren't trying to hide how unsafe this grand experiment actually is. I've said this before, this COVID-19 vaxxine mandate is the Greater Tuskegee Experiment. It is this and far worse. Another example leading up to this abuse of power was that the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 has been completely ignored by the Vaccine Industry. The Act compels DHHS to take responsibility for improving efficacy and safety of vaccines; and charges them with continuous monitoring and improving of adverse event reporting. The DHHS is also tasked with providing a report on improvements by the Mandate for Safer Childhood Vaccine clause to the Congress at least every 2 years.
The DHHS has failed to meet even the most basic aspects of these important duties entrusted to them by failing to file a single report for the past three decades. It has been over 30 years since NVICA was put into place and entrusted to the DHHS to safeguard children, despite being the agency tasked with the responsibility of investigating and improving safety they have not done as much as to raise a finger towards vaccine safety.
It was in 1990 that autism started to dramatically climb to its unprecedented level of today. Coincidence?
This type of behavior, in which laws were not enforced has only led to our current tyranny we are now witnessing. There is only one conclusion that can be drawn from this. We are at WAR. If anyone is relying on a legal solution for this, the wheels that turn for justice are squeaky and very slow. Chances are we won't see results for years. Tyranny is unfolding. What needs to be done, and it needs to be done NOW is that people need to unite, organize, and walk out from their jobs showing support to the airline pilots, nurses, fireman, and others and shut down all those companies who have fired people refusing to be experimented on. We must have visual presence in front of the FDA and CDC and all those that are perpetrating this evil. We are now living in a world of Dr. Moreau and on living the island of Dr. Moreau.
I regret to inform you I have this right and it is you that is in error. Read my other response or read it at the FDA Website and then read Jon Rappoport's article.
Vapo-vaxx.
Comirnaty is just the brand name for the Pfizer shot, like how Advil is the brand name for Ibuprofen. It's the same vaccine, nothing fishy about it. This happens whenever something is approved by the FDA.
My understanding was that the legal recourse is different based on whether the COMIRNATY branding is present or not, because it indicates full FDA approval rather than EAU, despite the two products supposedly being interchangeable.
The difference between FDA and EUA was incredibly overblown online, and is completely negligible at this point.
As you can see here, the difference between the two only applies to production (not human testing). EUA only meant that production and testing were occurring simultaneously in 2020, as opposed to doing one after the other and waiting much longer. Here is the source article if you would prefer.