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So this is very interesting! This guy has many Bible versions showing the text is different. Revelation 13:16 regarding "mark of the beast." Some say on with the newer translations while the older ones say in meaning the "mark of the beast" will be in you, not on. Vaccine goes in you, not on you!!! (t.me)
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– Jabber1 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Whoa! My wife was right, the vaccine is the mark!

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– Cyberhawk 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Unless people are getting the shot in their right hand of their forehead, I don’t see how it is.

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– Tiger19 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Very interesting.

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– GrayLine 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It's not so much tampering but finding the best fit from the original Greek, which is out there in a number of early texts. There's a wide range of English translations:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%2013:16

Check out the work of Joel Richardson and/or Walid Shoebat. Their book, God's War on Terror, maps the antichrist's kingdom to islam, not a secular government. In this verse, their claim is that "mark" is translated better as a "badge of servitude", as ISIS and AQ are regularly seen with head or arm bands with the islamic creed on them.

The short explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtquNNEO7Fw

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– inquimous 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Shoebat also identifies Mecca/S.A. as Babylon and oil as the "wine" which she drank with all the kings of the world. Good parallel drawn but I have to think he is perhaps a little too anti-Islam to consider other nuances.

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– mac1221 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Remember, the Apostle John was a mystic - as is his apocalypse a mystical book. It must not be held too tightly and made dogmatic. Greek, as well as Hebrew, can allow for looser interpretations because there is not an exact word for word translation in most cases. Both prepositions could be used with this passage as is the case for many verses of Biblical text. There are also several textural variants among the Greek Apostolic writings that should be compared.

Biblical text is layered. There is always the plain meaning of a text as well as deeper spiritual interpretations that can be extracted from the same verse. The foundation must be strong and firm, but what is built upon that foundation has room for exploring additional meanings derived from the text. This is where some really exceptional nuggets in understanding can be found if one is open when digging for the treasure.

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– Lurking_Waiting 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well, thats disturbing.

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– NOT_ADMIN 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Transcription vs Translation

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– IlIlIlIlIl 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Here is a deeper dig than a single English preposition compared across translations:

https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-383-revelation-13/

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– TSearch 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Interesting, but a tattoo is actually in your skin, not on it. The reason a tattoo lasts is because the ink is trapped in your middle layer of skin.

Also there seems to be no argument it is either in/on your right hand or forehead.

Also, my understanding of the mark of the beast is a person doesn’t accept it by accident. They know they are taking it.

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– purkiss80 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I get your point, however, people generally see someone with a tattoo on them, Not in them though...Any person who runs off to get the vaccine, plus cant wait for the boosters( they actually proud of that ) Know exactly what they are "taking".... except that, they Really Dont...!

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– TSearch 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

My bet is on the mark of the beast being linked to digital currency. Yes they are trying hard to link vaccine status with participating in the economy, but they are getting a lot of blowback.

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– Cyberhawk 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Rev 13;16

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, “to” receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:”

That’s what my late 60’s -70 table Bible says.

But the shots are in the arm. Shoulder to be exact. Hand or forehead. I agree the word “in” is significant and should be paid attention too, but then so should be the location. Hand or forehead. Conditioning yes, but I don’t think it’s the actual mark. My thoughts.

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– Based_in_Space 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That businesses and governments are starting to require for doing business definitely does not give me the warm and fuzzy about the vax.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Incomplete research and not at all conclusive.

He should have used the source material in Greek + concordance and similar language constructions to show it indeed is IN and not ON. Which is easy enough.

  1. Online sources @ biblegateway
  2. Strong's exhaustive dictionary + Green interlinear translation with strong's numbers.

That will get you started.

Then there is the following to consider: The KJV is a political document with a heavy bias.

Of course, it would be best if a researcher could read a language or two. German would be nice. But, one could also consider the Wyclife bible, or even the vulgate in older versions.

It is advisable to be at least capable in identifying the Greeks letters & words in manuscripts.

There are koine-greek etymology books available if you know how.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well the flood was an ELE, was it not?

But I do love me some babble language translations. Would be awesome to have a bible in Quantum Syntax Grammar.... because the bible is written in babble language from starters.

¨ In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

  1. What is the Parse of God? ...... PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" equals to a circular reasoning and lacking of the knowledge.
  2. "In" is inconsistent with a now-space position as it is not specific.So, "withIn the beginning = nativity" would be far better.
  3. Kudos for using articles in English.
  4. "created" is past-time = not now space-time.
  5. uitgang IM in Hebrew indeed is plural.
  6. haaretz is a particular word often used for a specific geolocation like land of Israel or certain sections of Egypt, etc. So it can mean quite a bit, depending on your lust for interpretation. There are 934 comparisons.

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For the First-Creator's knowledge IS with the claim of the creation &: nativity of the Heavens &: land/soil by the First-Creator.

For the First-Creator's knowledge of land/soil is with the claim of the lacking of the form &: vacuity with the land/soil by the First-Creator.

For the First-Creator's knowledge of the deep is with the claim of the deep with the face with the darkness by the First-Creator.

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