I think there is an important distinction to make.
Most people that got the vaccine have no idea that they are being lied to. They believe it to be safe and effective.
Then there are people that know it is unsafe and ineffective but were willing to accept the risk to keep their jobs or to travel etc.
There are probably many people in the middle too. That are unsure. That got the first jab, and haven't gotten their second and are waiting to see what happens.
So... My point is that everybody I care about has gotten the vaccine, and they aren't weak people who will betray me or anything like that. So although this sounds cool to read when you are as red-pilled as I am, I do not agree with it.
I view our greatest task is to convince normies that they are being lied to, not to just criticize them and mock them. That will not help the situation in my view.
Most people that got the vaccine have no idea that they are being lied to
then they are stupíd
Everyone close to me got it too, and yes, they are fucking stupid, they see the tyranny that's being imposed over this thing, and they go with it, not bad people, just weak and stupid.
Accepting that your loved ones are weak and stupid might hurt your pwecious ikle feeweings, but in the end truth is truth.
No, my family and friends are not stupid, that is ridiculous.
Calling people names instead of looking at the situation rationally will not get the results you want.
We are in the middle of an international information war. It is between people like Fauci, and people like us here on GA.win. We are both fighting for the hearts and minds of the normies. That is how we will win this.
The normies are not the enemies. Enlightening them is the key to victory.
The diamond princess, that cruise ship that couldn't dock anywhere for however long, was stuffed with nothing but coffin dodging boomers with 5 co-morbidities, something like 4000 of them, and they had a 1% fatality rate with no medical assistance.
This was a news item that told you all you needed to know, if the bollywood tier China 28 days later staged footage didn't tell you, or that the field hospitals were empty, the medical ships were empty, the list is fucking endless. You are either stupid or incredibly lazy and electing to be incredibly mentally lazy is stupid so, you'll have to live with it.
Idk about them being stupid but there is some kind of hive mind thing. I know some of the people who believe it is all conspiracies actually really do know it is the truth but they are intentionally lying to themselves. There is a strong desire not to be disconnected from their herd and you telling them things that the herd does not believe is not going to work. It is the herd that has to change its thinking somehow then their thinking will change. But dealing with them individually is hopeless because when you are talking to one of them you are not influencing what the herd thinks so you can’t influence what they think. It’s kind of scary but they are not doing any thinking or making any decisions themselves. I consider them potentially dangerous.
It just doesn't make any sense to call my family members and best friends stupid. They're just not.
For example, one is a software dev like me except he makes more money than I and has more people working under him. Another is a physicist working for a big company doing really cool work with acoustics. Another hasn't been employed for decades but has made an amazing living by trading stocks and investing. That is not an easy thing to do in a zero sum game.
There are posts and stories within the last weeks of parents posting self-congratulatory twitter stories about how their young child is now in hospital with myocarditis and how proud that they are that they are fighting, and how they cant wait to give them another vax shot once (if?) they recover. How they are so happy that now they are protected from the dreaded covid, and would do it all again.
If 'stupid' isnt an appropriate word for people so unconditionally loathsome, I'd put it to you that I agree, but only in the sense that its too mild.
How do you help people who pat themselves on the back for not just maiming and murdering their own young, but also posting a 'trophy' style picture of their victim suffering? That's right out of a serial killer or terrorist handbook. Gloating about the crime, reveling in the destruction they did?
For sure we can debate how they became so brain-dead, whether by being broken by intense fear, or misinfo, or 5g phones, or brainwashing, or demon incursion, or faked social pressure from bots, or coercion that has beaten them down, made them surrender, and then made them join their attackers.. stockholm-syndrome style.
But I think the ship has sailed with regard to the sanity of people like this.
Ridiculous. My elderly parents don’t have internet, smart phones, (except one between them to text me) have never participated with music, television, or radio except for the most basic of g-rated or Christian-oriented content.
They chose not to participate in this “wicked world”.
They never trusted the government per se, but lived the Christian ethos of being obedient to laws presented to you in you community.
They worked extremely hard all their lives to not be a burden to others in their old age, and their mindframe towards medicine and their health in general is: “Jesus wants us to die healthy”.
The truth is, TPTB knew exactly which buttons to push to scare people exactly like them, and they have pulled out all the stops to make sure they are deathly afraid. And they’ve done it in ways that elderly people, who have kept themselves as pure as one can in this world- never saw coming.
So, no…… they are not stupid you fucking idiot. They had the rules changed on them at the end of fucking finish line.
And you know what? Had we not been giving them troubles in all of our lives by not living the way they showed us was right….. they would be more apt to believe us now when we try to tell them something is really, really wrong.
Take some ownership of why you aren’t being believed when you try to scream shit from the rooftops.
Unless they live in a cave with 0 access to the outside world there's no excuse, they see mandates, they see how people are being threatened to comply, and they go with it
I'll say the same thing I said to the other snowflake, I don't consider them enemies, I'd gladly give up my life to save theirs, I'm just calling a spade a spade.
Also never did I ever scream from any rooftop, I tried bringing it up, multiple times, I tried pointing to mask studies, I trued pointing to the adverse VAX reactions, in a very calm manner
But at the end of the day I'm not responsible to think for them, that falls entirely on their laps, if they don't see, it's on them
I'll say again, it's not my responsibility to think for others, that's on them, I did what I could, save for locking them up there's nothing else I could have done, any attempt of providing information was met with a regurgitation of msm propaganda talking points, for months.
Was with you until your second to last paragraph. You absolutely should not trust anyone who has gotten the jab regardless of how well you think you know them. I do not agree with cutting them off completely, but a safe arms length is different. There have been reports of these things altering people's mental state (an injection that fucks with your DNA, who knew). Just observe them closely for yourself.
We do need to be seeking unity, but not at the expense of our own safety, security and liberty. The post is right, regardless of what you might have thought, these people bought into the fear porn a little too easily.
Chane the hearts and minds of the normies, not attacking their character.
lmfao man you cannot reason with NPCs, they are de-moralized, as in their agency has been stripped away, their opinions on anything are received by the perceived "vox populi" in their heads, you can and should attack the character of NPCs because that's about the only thing that works on them, they respond to shame, they sure as shit do not respond to data.
You’re awakened, friend. Sounds like you recognize all these “enemies” are just other versions of yourself, trapped by an onslaught of propaganda and fear.
We can be patient with them, do our best to persuade. But in the spirit of self-preservation, be careful who you trust during these times at the same time.
I'm even feeling a disconnect between my friends who were vaxxed due to work (government or military) despite not wanting it and those of us who are unvaxxed. We can still hang out, but I've noticed in group settings, the vaxxed friends tend to congregate and the unvaxxed friends congregate separately. It's almost subconscious. Without a doubt, whatever the reason, once vaxxed, always vaxxed.
I'm in the process of moving to another state and I'm meeting new friends in this highly conservative area. I don't ask about people's vax status, as I don't wanna know. If someone proffers that they are vaxxed, I automatically think to myself "OK, this person is a partial sheep at a minimum" and have to make a mental note to avoid certain topics.
Yes, my experience too. Especially with my current group of friends, mostly conservative but we live in lib tard land. Now my best friend group going back 25+ years is a different story. We are all spread out across the country but we said from the beginning that this would be the hill we die on, and as of yesterday no one in that group has bent the knee nor have I indicated the possibility of any one of them doing so.
yeah the people who go like "I will never get it" and fold when their job is threatened. No principles: they know they shouldn't be putting this into their body, but value their job and money more than their priceless bodies.
People who think it's safe and effective are not strong people; strong people critically think / think for themselves and use intuition.
Getting this injection is a fear driven decision, they let fear dictate their actions.
General rule in spirituality is that you attract to yourself what you fear. So people were scared of dying from what is essentially is a worse flu. So they attracted physical death to themselves by injecting themselves with what looks like a tool of genocide... hence attracting their fears of dying by making fear based decisions.
This happened to Anakin. He feared losing Padme so he turned to the dark side to remove the Jedi that were standing in his way of being with her only to lose her anyway.
Right but that's a shit work of fiction along with Harry Potter so leave that garbage outside because we're talking about real life not marvel superhero dumb shit.
Don't be dense, there are more truths in movies than people realize.
There is divine inspiration in creative work. George Lucas actually took the Gateway program before making starwars.
Gateway program is a way to go out of body and experience non physical reality that has been studied by white hat scientists for like 50 years.
https://www.monroeinstitute.org/
Things like the Death star are supposedly inspired by our moon. Which looks artificial. Basic sus facts, Moon is perfectly spaced to give us full eclipses.
The moon is 1/6 the size of earth, but 1/30 the mass (i think), the craters on them moon have the same depth: implying there is a hard layer preventing impacts going deep.
https://www.gaia.com/article/the-hollow-moon-theory-is-the-moon-an-artificial-satellite
Word is that the Moon is a satellite to monitor the planet.
Our history is a lie, things are a lot more sci-fi / fantasy than the cabal has made it seem in our mainstream culture. ETs have been involved with humans since the beginning.
The next layer of truths beyond that their is a cabal is that human cabal members are middle management. Upper management / top of the pyramid are non-humans species that think they own Earth and now are reducing the population so that humans would be easy to control.
We've used fictional stories as models of moral behavior for as long as we've had language. Not liking the source has no bearing on it's use as an easily understood example.
So you think they are willing to surrender their autonomy because "they are being lied to" - what if the government and media start pushing a story that anyone unvaccinated is a reservoir for the next Covid-20 or some magical "crisis of the unvaccinated" scenario where they actually CAN paint you as a super-spreader, and they ask for informants to alert them who is unvaccinated so they can be separated from community to prevent millions from dying.
Do you REALLY think everybody you care about, who fell for this round of lies, wouldn't fall for the next round of lies?
Therein lies the real issue. Your ability to convince and sway people is nowhere near as powerful as the media's or the government's. The media can convince them to turn on you like Germans ratting out Jewish neighbors. History has proven this.
What history does not agree with is your unwarranted optimism for and lack of skepticism of those who are still plugged into the matrix.
I agree but my sentiment differs a bit. Weak people caved and weak people are easily led. Weak people CAN be dangerous. Weak people are akin to injured animals. You can love them, you might even pity them - but you definitely should be a little wary around them.
That being said! We ALL have vulnerabilities. And you CAN make weak people strong. Well - God can. So prayer imho is one of you best tools to help your weak families and friends. And also material methods like information presented in small bites.
But I don't mind arguments. We all don't have to agree. Especially when we are all fighting for the same goal. I don't think anybody in this post is a shill, but I argue with them (shills) too but they always just go for the personal attack and stop making logical points.
I think there is an important distinction to make.
Most people that got the vaccine have no idea that they are being lied to. They believe it to be safe and effective.
Then there are people that know it is unsafe and ineffective but were willing to accept the risk to keep their jobs or to travel etc.
There are probably many people in the middle too. That are unsure. That got the first jab, and haven't gotten their second and are waiting to see what happens.
So... My point is that everybody I care about has gotten the vaccine, and they aren't weak people who will betray me or anything like that. So although this sounds cool to read when you are as red-pilled as I am, I do not agree with it.
I view our greatest task is to convince normies that they are being lied to, not to just criticize them and mock them. That will not help the situation in my view.
then they are stupíd
Everyone close to me got it too, and yes, they are fucking stupid, they see the tyranny that's being imposed over this thing, and they go with it, not bad people, just weak and stupid.
Accepting that your loved ones are weak and stupid might hurt your pwecious ikle feeweings, but in the end truth is truth.
No, my family and friends are not stupid, that is ridiculous.
Calling people names instead of looking at the situation rationally will not get the results you want.
We are in the middle of an international information war. It is between people like Fauci, and people like us here on GA.win. We are both fighting for the hearts and minds of the normies. That is how we will win this.
The normies are not the enemies. Enlightening them is the key to victory.
The diamond princess, that cruise ship that couldn't dock anywhere for however long, was stuffed with nothing but coffin dodging boomers with 5 co-morbidities, something like 4000 of them, and they had a 1% fatality rate with no medical assistance.
This was a news item that told you all you needed to know, if the bollywood tier China 28 days later staged footage didn't tell you, or that the field hospitals were empty, the medical ships were empty, the list is fucking endless. You are either stupid or incredibly lazy and electing to be incredibly mentally lazy is stupid so, you'll have to live with it.
Idk about them being stupid but there is some kind of hive mind thing. I know some of the people who believe it is all conspiracies actually really do know it is the truth but they are intentionally lying to themselves. There is a strong desire not to be disconnected from their herd and you telling them things that the herd does not believe is not going to work. It is the herd that has to change its thinking somehow then their thinking will change. But dealing with them individually is hopeless because when you are talking to one of them you are not influencing what the herd thinks so you can’t influence what they think. It’s kind of scary but they are not doing any thinking or making any decisions themselves. I consider them potentially dangerous.
I'm not saying they're enemies, I'd die to save my loved ones regardless
I'm saying they're stupid, I'm calling a spade a spade, because we must start doing that
It just doesn't make any sense to call my family members and best friends stupid. They're just not.
For example, one is a software dev like me except he makes more money than I and has more people working under him. Another is a physicist working for a big company doing really cool work with acoustics. Another hasn't been employed for decades but has made an amazing living by trading stocks and investing. That is not an easy thing to do in a zero sum game.
They aren't stupid.
There are posts and stories within the last weeks of parents posting self-congratulatory twitter stories about how their young child is now in hospital with myocarditis and how proud that they are that they are fighting, and how they cant wait to give them another vax shot once (if?) they recover. How they are so happy that now they are protected from the dreaded covid, and would do it all again.
If 'stupid' isnt an appropriate word for people so unconditionally loathsome, I'd put it to you that I agree, but only in the sense that its too mild.
How do you help people who pat themselves on the back for not just maiming and murdering their own young, but also posting a 'trophy' style picture of their victim suffering? That's right out of a serial killer or terrorist handbook. Gloating about the crime, reveling in the destruction they did?
For sure we can debate how they became so brain-dead, whether by being broken by intense fear, or misinfo, or 5g phones, or brainwashing, or demon incursion, or faked social pressure from bots, or coercion that has beaten them down, made them surrender, and then made them join their attackers.. stockholm-syndrome style.
But I think the ship has sailed with regard to the sanity of people like this.
Weak.
Ridiculous. My elderly parents don’t have internet, smart phones, (except one between them to text me) have never participated with music, television, or radio except for the most basic of g-rated or Christian-oriented content.
They chose not to participate in this “wicked world”.
They never trusted the government per se, but lived the Christian ethos of being obedient to laws presented to you in you community.
They worked extremely hard all their lives to not be a burden to others in their old age, and their mindframe towards medicine and their health in general is: “Jesus wants us to die healthy”.
The truth is, TPTB knew exactly which buttons to push to scare people exactly like them, and they have pulled out all the stops to make sure they are deathly afraid. And they’ve done it in ways that elderly people, who have kept themselves as pure as one can in this world- never saw coming.
So, no…… they are not stupid you fucking idiot. They had the rules changed on them at the end of fucking finish line.
And you know what? Had we not been giving them troubles in all of our lives by not living the way they showed us was right….. they would be more apt to believe us now when we try to tell them something is really, really wrong.
Take some ownership of why you aren’t being believed when you try to scream shit from the rooftops.
Unless they live in a cave with 0 access to the outside world there's no excuse, they see mandates, they see how people are being threatened to comply, and they go with it
I'll say the same thing I said to the other snowflake, I don't consider them enemies, I'd gladly give up my life to save theirs, I'm just calling a spade a spade.
Also never did I ever scream from any rooftop, I tried bringing it up, multiple times, I tried pointing to mask studies, I trued pointing to the adverse VAX reactions, in a very calm manner
But at the end of the day I'm not responsible to think for them, that falls entirely on their laps, if they don't see, it's on them
You win! I like you. :)
And if they were completely uniformed then part of that is on you as a family member.
You should have been handing out the facts to make sure no one in your family took the Clot Shot.
If you did provide them with all the information over and over then you did the best you could.
But unless you provided a constant stream of information for them, then you are partly to blame since you knew the truth.
I'll say again, it's not my responsibility to think for others, that's on them, I did what I could, save for locking them up there's nothing else I could have done, any attempt of providing information was met with a regurgitation of msm propaganda talking points, for months.
Not necessarily they are stupid, but brainwashed. People really don't know how deep the lies go.
Was with you until your second to last paragraph. You absolutely should not trust anyone who has gotten the jab regardless of how well you think you know them. I do not agree with cutting them off completely, but a safe arms length is different. There have been reports of these things altering people's mental state (an injection that fucks with your DNA, who knew). Just observe them closely for yourself.
We do need to be seeking unity, but not at the expense of our own safety, security and liberty. The post is right, regardless of what you might have thought, these people bought into the fear porn a little too easily.
We can agree to disagree.
We should be working to change the hearts and minds of the normies, not attacking their character.
I want to win. Attacking them leads to failure.
Calling them out for thier stupidity is not attacking them.
lmfao man you cannot reason with NPCs, they are de-moralized, as in their agency has been stripped away, their opinions on anything are received by the perceived "vox populi" in their heads, you can and should attack the character of NPCs because that's about the only thing that works on them, they respond to shame, they sure as shit do not respond to data.
You’re awakened, friend. Sounds like you recognize all these “enemies” are just other versions of yourself, trapped by an onslaught of propaganda and fear.
We can be patient with them, do our best to persuade. But in the spirit of self-preservation, be careful who you trust during these times at the same time.
NONSENSE.
So explain to me how you envision us winning against the elites without winning the hearts and minds of the normies?
I'm even feeling a disconnect between my friends who were vaxxed due to work (government or military) despite not wanting it and those of us who are unvaxxed. We can still hang out, but I've noticed in group settings, the vaxxed friends tend to congregate and the unvaxxed friends congregate separately. It's almost subconscious. Without a doubt, whatever the reason, once vaxxed, always vaxxed.
I'm in the process of moving to another state and I'm meeting new friends in this highly conservative area. I don't ask about people's vax status, as I don't wanna know. If someone proffers that they are vaxxed, I automatically think to myself "OK, this person is a partial sheep at a minimum" and have to make a mental note to avoid certain topics.
Yes, my experience too. Especially with my current group of friends, mostly conservative but we live in lib tard land. Now my best friend group going back 25+ years is a different story. We are all spread out across the country but we said from the beginning that this would be the hill we die on, and as of yesterday no one in that group has bent the knee nor have I indicated the possibility of any one of them doing so.
yeah the people who go like "I will never get it" and fold when their job is threatened. No principles: they know they shouldn't be putting this into their body, but value their job and money more than their priceless bodies.
People who think it's safe and effective are not strong people; strong people critically think / think for themselves and use intuition.
Getting this injection is a fear driven decision, they let fear dictate their actions.
General rule in spirituality is that you attract to yourself what you fear. So people were scared of dying from what is essentially is a worse flu. So they attracted physical death to themselves by injecting themselves with what looks like a tool of genocide... hence attracting their fears of dying by making fear based decisions.
This happened to Anakin. He feared losing Padme so he turned to the dark side to remove the Jedi that were standing in his way of being with her only to lose her anyway.
NICE, that's a good point. Star wars has more depth than most people realize.
Right but that's a shit work of fiction along with Harry Potter so leave that garbage outside because we're talking about real life not marvel superhero dumb shit.
Don't be dense, there are more truths in movies than people realize. There is divine inspiration in creative work. George Lucas actually took the Gateway program before making starwars.
Gateway program is a way to go out of body and experience non physical reality that has been studied by white hat scientists for like 50 years. https://www.monroeinstitute.org/
Things like the Death star are supposedly inspired by our moon. Which looks artificial. Basic sus facts, Moon is perfectly spaced to give us full eclipses. The moon is 1/6 the size of earth, but 1/30 the mass (i think), the craters on them moon have the same depth: implying there is a hard layer preventing impacts going deep. https://www.gaia.com/article/the-hollow-moon-theory-is-the-moon-an-artificial-satellite
Word is that the Moon is a satellite to monitor the planet.
Our history is a lie, things are a lot more sci-fi / fantasy than the cabal has made it seem in our mainstream culture. ETs have been involved with humans since the beginning.
The next layer of truths beyond that their is a cabal is that human cabal members are middle management. Upper management / top of the pyramid are non-humans species that think they own Earth and now are reducing the population so that humans would be easy to control.
We've used fictional stories as models of moral behavior for as long as we've had language. Not liking the source has no bearing on it's use as an easily understood example.
You sound angry. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Suffering leads to the dark side.
So you think they are willing to surrender their autonomy because "they are being lied to" - what if the government and media start pushing a story that anyone unvaccinated is a reservoir for the next Covid-20 or some magical "crisis of the unvaccinated" scenario where they actually CAN paint you as a super-spreader, and they ask for informants to alert them who is unvaccinated so they can be separated from community to prevent millions from dying.
Do you REALLY think everybody you care about, who fell for this round of lies, wouldn't fall for the next round of lies?
Therein lies the real issue. Your ability to convince and sway people is nowhere near as powerful as the media's or the government's. The media can convince them to turn on you like Germans ratting out Jewish neighbors. History has proven this.
What history does not agree with is your unwarranted optimism for and lack of skepticism of those who are still plugged into the matrix.
I agree but my sentiment differs a bit. Weak people caved and weak people are easily led. Weak people CAN be dangerous. Weak people are akin to injured animals. You can love them, you might even pity them - but you definitely should be a little wary around them.
That being said! We ALL have vulnerabilities. And you CAN make weak people strong. Well - God can. So prayer imho is one of you best tools to help your weak families and friends. And also material methods like information presented in small bites.
The war being waged right now is between people like Bill Gates, Fauci, Soros and the rest and people like us here at GA.win.
Both sides fight every day for the hearts and minds of the normies. If we win over the normies, we win the war.
Attacking the normies by calling them weak and stupid is a ridiculous strategy if you want to win.
If you don't care about winning and just want to feel superior, you can do that if you want, but I'm not going to.
I'm with you. I see you are taking some flak on your comments but I think you are right!
I don't mind flak.
That's how you know how you are over the target!
But I don't mind arguments. We all don't have to agree. Especially when we are all fighting for the same goal. I don't think anybody in this post is a shill, but I argue with them (shills) too but they always just go for the personal attack and stop making logical points.
Agreed. Here’s a perfect example of why OP and people who think this way are wrong to write everyone off so quickly:
https://greatawakening.win/p/140J1IaYvw/this-one-woke-up/c/