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1415GMT
Lawyers' arguments about witnesses learning what's been said in court the previous day. The issue will have to be decided by Judge Nathan.
Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: My request is to find out what was communication to him by Jane, before he gets on the stand in front of the jury. He was shown a document Jane was asked about.
Judge Nathan: Which one?
Menninger: The Interlochen [school] application
Assistant US Attorney: Jane told him, The defense lawyer is an expletive.
Menninger: But what else did she tell him?
Judge Nathan: He shouldn't testify until after lunch.
And now a sealed sidebar discussion, not public now nor apparently ever. Feed will resume when they return & jury enters.
Sidebar
1438GMT
Jury Enters
AUSA Maurene Comey continues direct examination of FBI witness about search of Epstein's Manhattan mansion.
AUSA Comey: Who do we see in this photograph?
FBI witness: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
AUSA Maurene Comey: Now let's turn to the [non-public] binder. What is it?
FBI witness: A photo from the investigation.
AUSA Comey: We offer it under seal.
Judge Nathan: It is sealed.
After a brief cross examination (you don't know when the photos were taken, do you?) next US witness is Stephen Flatley, FBI "CART" coordinator, digital forensic examiner and Quantico instructor.
AUSA: What is this?
Flatley: A hard drive I examined in this case.
AUSA: What is the "registered organization" for this computer hard drive?
FBI's Flatley: GMax.
AUSA: And this e-mail?
Flatley: From gmax1 [at] mindspring dot com. She says, I need to know what list John is using. No water in black Merc. No pens. Pool deck filthy
Flatley: GMax wrote, The massage creams in J.E.'s bathroom were a mess.
AUSA: We offer Exhibit 418 under seal.
Judge Nathan: Admitted under seal.
AUSA Pomerantz: And this document?
FBI's Flatley: It's by G-Max. It is about "massage lotion products." [For those asking, it's dated Sept 7, 2002]
Now Flatley is reading notes about Ghislaine, written by GMax, including "Jeffrey and Ghislaine really compliment each other, they are great partners." Also, "they are boyfriend and girlfriend unlike what some may think."
AUSA Pomerantz: No further questions.
1550GMT
Now the cross examination.
Maxwell's lawyer Laura Menninger: You don't know if anything was changed in the course of the copying, do you?
FBI's Flatley: I suppose I don't.
Menninger: And could you find out if GMax was in the same place as the computer?
And with a whimper and not a bang, Flatley is done.
Judge Nathan: Members of the jury, we'll take our mid-morning break.
Recess
1631GMT
Next witness: survivor Carolyn, testifying by first name only.
Assistant US Attorney: Carolyn, how far did you go in school?
Carolyn: Seventh grade. My mother was an alcoholic. I got introduced to Mr. Epstein to give him a massage. I said OK.
AUSA: How old were you?
Carolyn: Fourteen (14)
AUSA: Who greeted you?
Carolyn: Ms. Maxwell.
AUSA: What did she look like?
Carolyn: An older lady. With an English accent. I couldn't pronounce her first name correctly so I called her Maxwell.
AUSA: How much money did you get?
Carolyn: $300, in hundreds.
AUSA: How much did Virginia Roberts [Giuffre] get?
Carolyn: I don't know.... Maxwell asked me for my phone number.
1653GMT
AUSA: What would Maxwell ask you when she called?
Carolyn: If I'd be available when they flew in. They asked me to travel overseas. I said there was no way my mother would say OK.
AUSA: Did you tell Maxwell how old you were?
Carolyn: I told her I was fourteen.
Carolyn: Maxwell came in and felt my boobs. She told me that I had a great body for Mr. Epstein and his friends.
AUSA: How did that relate to your breast and hip size?
Carolyn: She said I had a great body. [Witness sounds like she is about to cry.]
AUSA: When you were naked, who would come in the room?
Carolyn: Mr. Epstein. First I would massage him. He would ask about my upbringing.
AUSA: Would Ms. Maxwell ever pay you?
Carolyn: Yes. She handed me three one hundred dollar bills.
Carolyn: Maxwell said Jeffrey wanted my address. I got sent lingerie, concert tickets and a book called "Massage for Dummies."
AUSA: Did you bring friends to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
Carolyn: Amanda Laslow, one year older than me.
Carolyn: Also Tatum and Julie... He asked me to bring younger people. I told him I don't hang out with younger people but there were some people I could ask. When I bought them I got paid $600 and she got paid $300.
AUSA: What did they do?
Carolyn: Sex and oral sex.
AUSA: What did you do with the money they paid you?
Carolyn: I was buying drugs. [Now, witness is sobbing.]
AUSA: You need to say it into the microphone.
AUSA: Then what major event?
Carolyn: I had a baby.
AUSA: Did you go back to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
Carolyn: Yes. I had gone there while I was pregnant --
AUSA: I'm asking about after you had the baby.
Carolyn: I needed the money. But I realized I was too old.
Carolyn says she had a son (whose father's first name she says in court) on March 12, 2004. She says she returned to Epstein's house after that because she needed the money. She stopped going because she realized she became "too old."
Q: How old were you?
A: 18.
AUSA: Did you later pawn an X-Box that wasn't yours?
Carolyn: I did. I did jail time. Then I did drug treatment and therapy. I take methadone and Xanax. And two others.
Carolyn: I am constantly afraid of my children being trafficked.
AUSA: Are you in touch with the father, Shawn?
Carolyn: No, not since the X-Box pawn shop thing.
AUSA: Have you worked for an escort service and had sex with men for money?
Carolyn: Sometimes.
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AUSA: What did Maxwell do to you?
Carolyn: She took pictures of me nude, and the stuff with Epstein.
AUSA: Who decided who you would sue?
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection!
Judge Nathan: Sustained. [To Carolyn, who was speaking] Don't answer, when I say Sustained.
And now, cross examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca.
Pagliuca: Sean was a friend of Virginia Roberts' boyfriend Tony, right? And you all smoked marijuana together and drank alcohol?
Carolyn: We didn't drink any alcohol.
Pagliuca: Virginia Roberts told you you could make $300?
Carolyn: No.
Pagliuca: When Roberts approached you about making this $500, Maxwell was not there, correct?
Carolyn: It was me & Virginia.
Pagliuca: Maxwell was not involved in the conversation, right?
Carolyn: Right.
Alert: Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer Jeff Pagliuca just said the last name of this witness. Inner City Press caught it in time and is not tweeting. But AUSA Comey said nothing, nor did the Court.
1753GMT
Judge Nathan: We'll break here for lunch. Members of the jury, you have your lunch. We'll break.
Recess
1920GMT
Maxwell's lawyer Pagliuca is cross-examining survivor Carolyn who testified Maxwell paid her $300 to have sex with Jeffrey Epstein.
Pagliuca: Look at the notes the FBI took during your interview, about a lady with short black hair and an "unknown" accent. They didn't cut you off, correct?
Carolyn: That was a bad day for me. I was not expecting the FBI to come to my home.
Pagliuca: You knew what a British accent was, but you said "an unknown accent," right?
Carolyn: The day that you're talking about --
Pagliuca: I'd ask the Court to make her answer.
Pagliuca: So for the 2d visit to Mr. Epstein's house, you sat in the kitchen and spoke with the chef, right?
Carolyn: I don't remember if it was the 2nd visit or after.
Pagliuca: Show the witness what she said in 2007.
Carolyn: The FBI didn't ask me about Maxwell.
Pagliuca: Are you saying the FBI limited what you could say?
Carolyn: They didn't ask me about Maxwell.
Pagliuca: But you told the FBI about Sarah and the Incubus tickets from Epstein.
Carolyn: Yes.
Pagliuca: And you moved from Florida to Georgia.
Carolyn: Yes.
Pagliuca: I want to talk about the lawsuits you filed --
Carolyn: What does that have to do with me moving to Georgia?
After Pagliuca asks Carolyn again and again about FBI 302s and lawsuit paragraphs, Judge Nathan declared the afternoon break, having said she'll be addressing objection now out of the presence of the jury.
Judge Nathan: Let's pick up the first factual paragraph.
Pagliuca: We argue the entire complaint is inconsistent, by omission. She mentions Sarah Kellen and not Ms. Maxwell.
AUSA Maurene Comey: This was a lawsuit against 2 defendants - there was no reason that 3rd parties would be in.
Judge Nathan: I'm letting it in.
Just before the jury comes back in, AUSA Comey asks how long the cross examination is going to be, it's already been longer than the direct. No answer.
2108GMT
Jury Enters
All rise!
Pagliuca: Do you recall abusing drugs from the age of 13?
Carolyn: If you call pot drugs, yes.
Pagliuca: So you went to Georgia to detox, right?
Carolyn: No. I went to Georgia to escape traumatic events in my life.
Paugliaca: Let's talk about your claims of sex with Epstein. Isn't it true you used cocaine while you were at Mr. Epstein's house?
Carolyn: No.
Carolyn: What does any of this have to do with what I'm here for today? Ghislaine Maxwell fondled me and broke my soul --
Pagliuca: Move to strike.
Judge Nathan: Carolyn, you have to follow my rules. Jury will disregard.
Pagliuca: You received these funds from the Epstein Compensation Fund --
Carolyn: No amount of money will ever heal --
Pagliuca: Move to strike.
Judge Nathan: Jury will disregard. I instruct the witness to comply with the rules.
Pagliuca: You claimed you saw a photograph of Ms. Maxwell pregnant, correct?
Carolyn: Nude and pregnant. That was on multiple --
Pagliuca: No further questions.
AUSA Maurene Comey: Three minutes. Did you write your legal complaint?
Carolyn: No (crying)
AUSA Comey: What year was it when you were 13?
Carolyn: If I do the math, yes.
AUSA Comey: Are you here to get money?
Carolyn: No, what she did is wrong, she took young girls --
Pagliuca: Objection.
AUSA Comey: What year was it when you were 13?
Carolyn: If I do the math, yes.
AUSA Comey: Are you here to get money?
Carolyn: No, what she did is wrong, she took young girls --
Pagliuca: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Jurors, we're two minutes over. See you tomorrow.
Clerk: All rise!
Now government says: We will be resting this week (!)
They'd said five to six week trial - this is a big change. Now Judge Nathan floats a charging conference on Saturday the 18th. US just said they may be resting their case THIS WEEK - that is, after two weeks instead of the five to six weeks they projected.
Judge Nathan: I have inquired and we could get Ms Maxwell here on a Saturday, and open the overflow courtroom.
Again: Why no listen-only call-in line, as existed even today in US v. Steve Bannon in DDC?
Judge Nathan: I remind you, one word objections only.
Court Adjourned
The prosecutors said they'd put on four victim / survivor witnesses and they just finished with their third. Plus, they just said they won't call as a witness Jane's brother Bryan. Still, from five weeks down to two weeks is a big change.
Thank you for these wonderful updates!
Some tosser downgoated you .. wtf?
Even if you dont agree with the content of whats going on in the courtroom, the sheer amount of work dem6 has done transcribing to threads each day is EPIC.
Lmao same fucker downvoated me ... 0 fks given lol
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
Jury is sent out of the courtroom.
Recess
Pagliuca tells the judge he's trying to impeach the witness "by omission," pointing to paragraphs of Carolyn's civil complaint about Sarah Kellen.
He says the govt's trying to play down Kellen's alleged role and play up Maxwell's. The civil complaint does the opposite, Pagliuca says.
Cross-examination continues after the conclusion of afternoon recess.
Pagliuca turns to Carolyn's history of alcohol and drug use, a subject anticipated by the prosecution's direct examination.
Pagliuca refers to Carolyn's previous testimony in litigation:
Q: Did you ever have sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein?
A: No.
She interjects about the exchange:
"I replied 'No' because I was not a willing participant. He had sex with me and I stopped it."
Pagliuca asks Carolyn whether it's true she never mentioned Maxwell in therapy. Correct, she replies.
Is this Carolyn why we’re seeing this massive downdetector spike in app/web interference? She’s dropping bombs. Tks for this.
Maxwell is fucked.
I have a theory but it is very hopium. What if the Comey and Obama tranny are there so when justice comes out it's really hard for the DS MSM to paint it as rigged against them.
Kind of like when Trump is back after the resident usurped and destroyed the country. Hard to craft a narrative against it. Thoughts?
Also we might have dirt on them.
Yes, that's how we would have to attain justice from a commy tranny and a traitors daughter. Play their game but in reverse.
Nah they are going to mistrial with prejudice this case so Maxwell can never be brought up again on the same charges.
LOL
His punishment was prolly more severe than the pedo queen's will be.
I pray that this witness statement echos in Maxwell's head every time she closes her eyes...
I pray this statement echoes in the Jury's heads every minute so they convict.
Sociopaths don't really care. She's all smiles and hugs right now.
Agreed. What's said cannot be unsaid.
Didn't Brian Cates tell us that Maureen Comey would never stand up and be involved in any talking to the witnesses?
Alot of people were saying that. They were clearly talking out of their arses.
This Judge Nathan is scary. It's like it gets off on seeing all these images that are "sealed"
Thank you.
This is great work! Thank you for covering the case and pasting it all here.
My biggest question is: How do we get to the point where all of the individuals involved are being exposed? Held accountable? So far everything is laser focused on Maxwell and Epstein, as if massages with 14 - 18 year olds was the extent of this. You wouldn't need an entire fucking island, a submarine and a private air force for 4 victims + Epstein.
How does the evidence/names/black books/surveillance all make it's way into the spotlight? I feel like all of that gets buried when Maxwell goes to jail and people will memory hole thousands of victims at the hands of the Elite. Who will get away with it, like they do everything.
Bombshell tonight!
Yes, "Jane". Yes she is.
Any update yet today? Thanks.
https://greatawakening.win/p/140cNSufvZ/
Boom fantastic thank you fren! Hopefully tomorrow gets juicier
Carolyn was off the hook! =)
I hope Ghislaine get's a lenient sentence or maybe even beats this case to wake people up. It would demonstrate the decline of rule of law to the masses in an undeniable way.
I would agree, except high profile trafficking arrests will also shake people awake. Probably more so.
either way is good for us. NCSWIC
I will say, I don't think the prosecution has proved much if anything for maxwell's actual involvement with the charges..
I would only be happy with that outcome if someone were to murder her after the trial. I wish we had Deadpool-like superheros running around dispensing justice when the courts refuse to.