It could be latches. They should have brought this complaint before COVID. After COVID started it was far too late.
It could be no jurisdiction though. The Supreme court may not have jurisdiction since its a state issue. The thing is, I think this might be true.
The federal government doesn't have any jurisdiction to tell corporations in any states what to do. The states are the entities that do the incorporating, not the federal government. Since Biden doesn't have jurisdiction, SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction to counter it.
Meh, who knows?
I'm better they toss it one way or another. SCOTUS has to fail for The Show to go on.
Just doesn’t make any sense Federal govt (Biden) mandates but doesn’t have actual authority. A state court pauses it but another in Illinois changes and allows it, so who in the hell is in charge in the states that have to listen to anyone who doesn’t have the authority. Federal Gov’t get back to doing your job, borders and protect citizens of the United States .
All I’m saying is there is overlap. And the mandate on business with 100 employees or greater had its injunction overturned today by the sixth circuit.
Yep, I thought @MAG768720 did a great job digging the authority for the OSHA ETS for the 'COVID' guideline. It appears OSHA does not cite any authority over private sector corporate entities.
The entire "vaccine mandates" are directed only to government employees and/or contractors. Is this constitutional? Well, injecting drugs for a fraudulent reason is not, but otherwise these provisions are with the fed's authority (OSHA, overall) -- PROVIDED they ONLY apply to federal operations.
I thought @MAG768720 did a great job digging the authority for the OSHA ETS for the 'COVID' guideline. It appears OSHA does not cite any authority over private sector corporate entities.
The entire "vaccine mandates" are directed only to government employees and/or contractors. Is this constitutional? Well, injecting drugs for a fraudulent reason is not, but otherwise these provisions are with the fed's authority (OSHA, overall) -- PROVIDED they ONLY apply to federal operations.
Yes, but its still a matter of jurisdiction. It means the Federal OSHA doesn't actually have jurisdiction, even if the states are following what the Federal says. I.e. the states have the jurisdiction, and the Federal is guiding them, meaning there is no legal path between them, only a guidance.
This means its not a Federal issue at all, but a state one.
I actually agree with you and governor DeSantis sees this as a way to stop the federal 'weaponization' of OSHA. This is why FL is moving to create their own Stat OSHA. What's sad is that the other States that have State OSHA act like a rubber stamp to the Federal OSHA.
Agreed. In case you didn't see this, I posted the following:
I thought @MAG768720 did a great job digging the authority for the OSHA ETS for the 'COVID' guideline. It appears OSHA does not cite any authority over private sector corporate entities.
The entire "vaccine mandates" are directed only to government employees and/or contractors. Is this constitutional? Well, injecting drugs for a fraudulent reason is not, but otherwise these provisions are with the fed's authority (OSHA, overall) -- PROVIDED they ONLY apply to federal operations.
The government argued this earlier, but this wasn't part of the 6th Circuit decision. The initial 3 person panel of judges ruled to end the 5th Circuit Stay and the decision for an en banc court ruling was evenly split. This means it has to go to SCOTUS.
We need to get a class action lawsuit going against OSHA. to my understanding they have to show that covid is a grave danger to the workplace in order to do anything. How in the fuck can it be a grave danger?
I’m so sick of this shiz, frens.
There with ya bro... hand me the remote.. i need to ff this movie to the credits
I agree. Just say no!
Lets see... will it be latches ..standing or moot?
It could be latches. They should have brought this complaint before COVID. After COVID started it was far too late.
It could be no jurisdiction though. The Supreme court may not have jurisdiction since its a state issue. The thing is, I think this might be true.
The federal government doesn't have any jurisdiction to tell corporations in any states what to do. The states are the entities that do the incorporating, not the federal government. Since Biden doesn't have jurisdiction, SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction to counter it.
Meh, who knows?
I'm better they toss it one way or another. SCOTUS has to fail for The Show to go on.
Much as it pains me... your last point is what I think this is truly about... damn I hate this freaking movie...
Just doesn’t make any sense Federal govt (Biden) mandates but doesn’t have actual authority. A state court pauses it but another in Illinois changes and allows it, so who in the hell is in charge in the states that have to listen to anyone who doesn’t have the authority. Federal Gov’t get back to doing your job, borders and protect citizens of the United States .
This is for the OSHA ETS guidelines. The Stay was removed. Not the Federal and federal contractor EOs, which have other federal stays.
Many federal contractors also have more than 100 employees.
See: Baxter, Boeing, etc.
there's two Biden EOs. One is directing OSHA to come up with guidelines.
All I’m saying is there is overlap. And the mandate on business with 100 employees or greater had its injunction overturned today by the sixth circuit.
Yep, I thought @MAG768720 did a great job digging the authority for the OSHA ETS for the 'COVID' guideline. It appears OSHA does not cite any authority over private sector corporate entities.
The entire "vaccine mandates" are directed only to government employees and/or contractors. Is this constitutional? Well, injecting drugs for a fraudulent reason is not, but otherwise these provisions are with the fed's authority (OSHA, overall) -- PROVIDED they ONLY apply to federal operations.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzxu77tQ/the-osha-covid-mandate-is-smoke-/
Even if OSHA can’t force private companies to do anything, that doesn’t mean employers aren’t doing it themselves.
I understand people are trying to be optimistic, but if SCOTUS doesn’t issue a stay, there’s going to be a lot of unemployed people come January 4th.
I’ll be interested to see what they say since the Republican AGs are a part of this “super suit.”
If that’s the case though, then how does the federal agency OSHA have jurisdiction over incorporated entities in states?
I thought @MAG768720 did a great job digging the authority for the OSHA ETS for the 'COVID' guideline. It appears OSHA does not cite any authority over private sector corporate entities.
The entire "vaccine mandates" are directed only to government employees and/or contractors. Is this constitutional? Well, injecting drugs for a fraudulent reason is not, but otherwise these provisions are with the fed's authority (OSHA, overall) -- PROVIDED they ONLY apply to federal operations.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzxu77tQ/the-osha-covid-mandate-is-smoke-/
According to this, they don't unless the State cedes control.
Reading this over, it sounds an awful lot to me like the whole SOS v. State legislation jurisdiction for election stuff.
I think there has been some serious jurisdictional fuckery going on with OSHA. This is worth a deeper dig.
You're right, except the State OSHA's are typically parenting the federal OSHA and are to be in accordance to the federal OSHA.
Yes, but its still a matter of jurisdiction. It means the Federal OSHA doesn't actually have jurisdiction, even if the states are following what the Federal says. I.e. the states have the jurisdiction, and the Federal is guiding them, meaning there is no legal path between them, only a guidance.
This means its not a Federal issue at all, but a state one.
I actually agree with you and governor DeSantis sees this as a way to stop the federal 'weaponization' of OSHA. This is why FL is moving to create their own Stat OSHA. What's sad is that the other States that have State OSHA act like a rubber stamp to the Federal OSHA.
I think the Federal OSHA only has jurisdiction over Federal employees, Washington D.C. and maybe the territories (Puerto Rico e.g.).
Agreed. In case you didn't see this, I posted the following:
I thought @MAG768720 did a great job digging the authority for the OSHA ETS for the 'COVID' guideline. It appears OSHA does not cite any authority over private sector corporate entities.
The entire "vaccine mandates" are directed only to government employees and/or contractors. Is this constitutional? Well, injecting drugs for a fraudulent reason is not, but otherwise these provisions are with the fed's authority (OSHA, overall) -- PROVIDED they ONLY apply to federal operations.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzxu77tQ/the-osha-covid-mandate-is-smoke-/
If its revelation, why are we expecting to "win"
They don’t get selected to make smart decisions.
They get selected to do what they’re told.
Pretending it passes and a worker has a work related myocardiatis accident from the jab or whatever , can they now SUE the company for damages ??
This is for the OSHA ETS guidelines. Not the Federal and federal contractor EOs.
Yes.
OSHA demonstrated the risk covid imposes to workers, Sod off osha I will take my chances thank you very much
The government argued this earlier, but this wasn't part of the 6th Circuit decision. The initial 3 person panel of judges ruled to end the 5th Circuit Stay and the decision for an en banc court ruling was evenly split. This means it has to go to SCOTUS.
Supposedly OSHA : Protecting workers!
Actually OSHA: Fucking over workers!
We need to get a class action lawsuit going against OSHA. to my understanding they have to show that covid is a grave danger to the workplace in order to do anything. How in the fuck can it be a grave danger?