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Upon admission to a once-trusted hospital, American patients with COVID-19 become virtual prisoners, subjected to a rigid treatment protocol with roots in Ezekiel Emanuel’s “Complete Lives System” for rationing medical care in those over age 50. They have a shockingly high mortality rate. Why? (aapsonline.org)
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– Albundy63 32 points 4 years ago +32 / -0

Reduce the number of seniors who would be taking social security, Medicare Medicaid etc. also older people tend to be more conservative, and they remember when America was strong and great. Gotta get rid of them. It’s similar to the way history is being rewritten.

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– PortugueseMamaC 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

and thank you for the link to NAC.

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– Nolagirl99 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Search NAC and any ailment. Alzheimers, pneumonia, anything. You’ll be shocked at how good it is. Walmart will deliver, the FDA is trying to remove it and make it a prescription so stock up

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– Toycars123 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That is the Company I rec'd mine from! Been taking it for about 4 years now....

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– needorganization 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Sad we don't even want to get care when we need it due to possibly being murdered.

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– MrPresident46 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Sad that all the natural cures are shunned and demonized by the powers that be.

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– Recyclops 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Fish antibiotics work in a pinch, I learned from a prepper website years ago. Cheap, non-prescription, and available at pet/aquarium stores. I always keep some on hand in case things go sideways.

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– PortugueseMamaC 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

thank you for that resource!

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– Survey_girl 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Ahhh, the Emanuel brothers. The good Doc who also helped write Obamacare, former mayor and Obama cabinet member, Rahm.... and the Hollywood elite that owns the largest talent agency, Ari. Three of the most corrupt and scummy people on earth.

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– mathman 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I can barely imagine the greed, hatred, and ambition their parents conveyed to them...

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– DCGRITS 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

This is the reason for the deadly protocols (paying for slaughter basically)

The hospital payments include:

  1. A “free” required PCR test in the Emergency Room or upon admission for every patient, with government-paid fee to hospital.
  2. Added bonus payment for each positive COVID-19 diagnosis.
  3. Another bonus for a COVID-19 admission to the hospital.
  4. A 20 percent “boost” bonus payment from Medicare on the entire hospital bill for use of remdesivir instead of medicines such as Ivermectin.
  5. Another and larger bonus payment to the hospital if a COVID-19 patient is mechanically ventilated.
  6. More money to the hospital if cause of death is listed as COVID-19, even if patient did not die directly of COVID-19.
  7. A COVID-19 diagnosis also provides extra payments to coroners.
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– numina18 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I just left the hospital last week after twelve hellish days there for covid pneumonia. Got three rounds of remdesivir, then they stopped. My friend owns a patient care company and promised me 24/7 care. This got me sprung. Now i am home and and very debilitated. Can't do much but lie around breathing shallowly. It beats the hospital hands down, however. How long will I languish thus??? Some say for months, others , weeks. IDK. It's just a snoozefest. I make breakfast and have to rest for two hours. Like that.

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– DCGRITS 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I think you’ll feel better in another week.

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– Nolagirl99 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Get a home sauna from Amazon and start taking NAC. Boiron is a homeopathic company and when I had pneumonia, I swear their remedies saved me

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– needorganization 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Because of obfuscation with medical coding and legal jargon, we cannot be certain of the actual amount each hospital receives per COVID-19 patient. But Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment of at least $100,000 per patient.

Tells you all you need to know.

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– MegaMAGAMichiPede 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I went to the ER for severe dehydration last week. They didn’t care that I was exposed to Covid. They just didn’t CARE. I told them I was gagging on food and liquids so I wouldn’t be able to use the vending machines. Knowing that, they still left me for SEVEN HOURS with no fluids, waiting on that shitty bench with nobody allowed to stay with me, and getting no sleep that night. I had my husband pick me up at 8:30am and said “well I guess I’m just going home to die”. He of course was not amenable to that outcome so bought me liquid IV drink packets and sat with me while I choked down water. He saved my life. I’m now recovering but still having a hard time with food and beverages. Baby steps.

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– MegaMAGAMichiPede 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

We’re going to start keeping one on hand. The medical industry is going to get a lot worse before it gets better and I’m not having my family suffer for it.

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– numina18 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

They wouldn't give me any water for two whole days NPO. Nothing.

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– numina18 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Now I am drinking water continuously. It's good. no more dehydration.

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– Belowzero 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The hospitals themselves know the high rates of mortality. I was in management, they are closing the hospitals. Despite what people think, because people can think whatever they want, they only want clinics and surgery centers, period.

You can’t force people to run a business they don’t want. Anyone else is free to run as many hospitals as you want. Or you can tell your government to do it. Right now the problem with Covid is it’s in the middle of them switching to virtual care.

The plan for 2025, moved up to 2024, is to go completely virtual like how many people here are describing the cost savings with internet doctors.

They will keep open large ERs as a customer service during the transition. Hospitals are growing superbugs so the plan is to eliminate them entirely and move to hospital at home models which at first will be private pay and are now operational. Insurance will eventually cover it.

I am involved in a new business model, and this is how I know, because I’ve been in online meetings where this is all discussed.

It would save money, regulators can’t come into your home and say this or that isn’t up to code. They can’t come in your home at all. Plus you can’t be bullied, or forced into anything. Doctors will appear on screens and order you things. Separate nursing companies will provide staff if you’d like, or not, but they’d talk you through the machines, labs, all of it is already developed for you to do yourselves.

Plus, you can pick anyone you want. Separate agencies will be like frontline doctors etc and serving people who want something different. More organic, less Med services you name it.

Try not to complain so much, change is hard but the hospitals are losing money and it harms patients. Everyone in the industry knows that, everyone knows already.

Many hospitals will stop offering full services by 2025. The next decade will be transitioning. To save us all money, your safety is now in your hands, which it should be. Your body, your responsibility.

Anyone else can vote for government healthcare but the hospitals fought against it.

As a nurse I refuse to work for the government. None of us will do it.

So get ready, your family will be caring for you and we will provide the bed, the supplies, and show you how to do it.

If you can’t you can hire the number of private agencies who will come help you, but only with what you need and you will pay based on those needs.

You can buy nursing care, or skip it.

It’s the end of hospitals, right now. This very minute, and that’s what is the problem with Covid. They’ve been lowering beds and forcing nurses to retire. They don’t want the staff and leave openings on purpose despite advertising for them. They don’t want to hire staff, they are getting out of the business because it kills their customers. Plus, they don’t make money on really sick patients. They will be putting that responsibility back on the people who made those choices.

No more of going somewhere to dump your body and shirk while others are scrambling to save your ass.

People who are healthy will spend way less and have more freedom, better outcomes, they’re in control

People who could care less to lose weight or exercise can deal with the consequences of those choices.

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– RedNonna 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

You sound like a person of great compassion. "Only the deserving need bother us".

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– Belowzero 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Roving lab and MRIs, cat scans, all in a truck brought to your home, or you go to your clinic or outpatient in rural areas. I expect much of this to be a pain in the ass, but like I said, feel free to open a hospital. This is America. People get to run the businesses they want.

You can’t complain because you and your family didn’t provide the service either.

I’m not sure why people complain others aren’t their slaves and doing what they want.

Imagine living your life telling a neighbor you want a full service hospital so they need to go run one. Run it your damn self. No one is your slave in this country. You don’t like what people have to offer? Find a way to get your needs met yourself. There isn’t a “they” who are supposed to do things for you.

You are born here, and you put your children here. You better be able to provide for them.

I would assume some kind doctors will keep ICUs open as a public service, but at that point it is out of concern and care for others. Whatever they can provide, you can’t complain about it. You didn’t go to medical school and save the money to buy equipment etc. why does someone else have to do that for you.

The attitudes in this country are turning communism. I’m wondering if the people screaming the most about communism are just projecting. Because many certainly expect to be spoon fed out of a public well that’s specifically there to serve all people.

In this country, we have individuals with ideas for services to offer. We trade these services and make our own deals. The government has nothing to do with it. If you want a service, it’s communism to force a group of people to provide it.

It’s a free market and a free country otherwise.

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– Belowzero 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This is freedom and many doctors want to be like old country doctors and stop being harassed.

I can help with all of this but if you complain with what people have to offer, you need to work to help them be better at it. You have to take responsibility for yourselves.

This is waking up.

When you sue doctors, it clogs the courts up so much that the government encouraged regulating agencies so all doctors had to practice similarly and if they did, judges knew how to throw out lawsuits and relieve stress on the public court system. No one wants to pay taxes to resolve your complaints.

You need to care for yourself, take your own risks. If you picked the wrong doctor you yourself fucked up. You can’t force the public servants, the courts to get involved with all your problems, that’s communism.

If you stopped creating a need for a larger government, private industries and doctors and nurses themselves will help you deregulate. We hate all of it. They are neck breathers and we literally can’t be flexible. Society, snob nosed nellies with privilege started suing over risks you naturally take in life.

You think in 1776, if you got frostbit, the doctor you chose would be responsible if it got infected and you needed an amputation? Or cholera went around and you got sick, did ya get to sue people into oblivion?

Fuck no. Life is at your own risk.

You choose to go to a hospital then it’s your choice. You can’t complain. You didn’t open a better hospital, or fight lawsuits that forced the hand of the government to get involved.

Do you know the first lawsuits were people who were so privileged, they got mad their family member died, but this time decided to blame someone. That caught fire and everyone, monkey see monkey do started taking it to the courts.

And presto, the government raised taxes and started to regulate the industry.

If you want medical freedom YOU HAVE TO ASSUME YOUR OWN RISKS AND STOP SUING PEOPLE.

I came on here to get support to fix the industry and free clinicians.

Knowing history, all I’ve seen is people threaten lawsuits so either I teach you, and let you be little communists even if you didn’t know it, or I say it loudly.

If you want to stop communism and free doctors so they can do what you’d like you have to get behind banning lawsuits and encourage people to take risks. If you don’t, we can’t fix it. Learn how it started, I’m teaching you.

The reason private doctors were forced into large corporations was corporations had money to defend lawsuits.

If there’s so many lawsuits either everyone is incompetent in this country or, people are lawsuit happy, anti American, big government, blaming types who think if I have a medical situation, the “they” out there better fix it. I have a right to medical care.

No you fucking don’t!

You have an opportunity to pay someone who chose to learn things that may help you, and if it doesn’t work, it wouldn’t have worked if you did nothing either. Why blame them, you could have learned how to fix bodies, but you didn’t so blame yourself.

Stop expecting people to give you things. That’s not what we are here for, we aren’t here to provide public service and pay more taxes so you can blame everyone for your life situation.

People need to take responsibility for themselves and accept risks.

This country was free when we had as little government and court systems as possible.

If you sue people and can’t manage your life: YOU ARE THE REASON for communism taking over. Complaining because life is risky and shitty. Complaining and trying to ruin the lives of people who learned things to try and help you.

While you sit on your ass.

All people do is complain and threaten. The forefathers had to remove rocks from the ground to grow crops. Who did they sue when something bad happened? Oh you died from a farm accident, or got attacked by a native, who do you complain to?

These people then had self respect and a winning attitude. They got things done. They didn’t sit on the internet and complain. They built a free country. Now I see people yelling they want it back. You think if they yelled, the country would have erected itself?

If you want a great country, you have to build one.

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– PortugueseMamaC 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Great message. I guess, being a former medical professional (tertiary you might say) I totally agree with you. FTR, obamacare did a great number on the sense of entitlement people felt when the walked into their doctor's office. It was like the doctor was now their servant -- they were so detached from the cost of treatment. And it was the less affluent who were the absolute worst.

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– mattroomsq 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I guess that the trauma system would still have to exist as injuries from shootings, car wrecks, etc that would require emergency surgery.

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– Stephanie1 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

How do we know it true for california? True if you have good insurance?

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– Phishhed44 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Same insurance companies don’t want to pay for elderly. ESPECIALLY insurance companies!

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– Phishhed44 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Good point ☝🏼

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– Tewdryg 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's the death panels of Obamacare activated. Hospitals are now -- 'Nurse's Penitentiaries" -- Jim Morrison's words from Shaman Blues. I find it interesting he said this back in the 1960s.

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– numina18 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I had an abusive nurse who threatened me with intubation, and I told her I refused it. She left me alone after that. So, I guess I was slated for death, but talked them out of it???????

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– PortugueseMamaC 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

pretty much prepared to risk death at home than guarantee it at the hospital.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just 2 years agonif you didn't have money the were happy to kick u to curb with no help.

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– ditzee58 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not here - low income people used the ER for their general healthcare. If insured John or Jane Doe went in for a true emergency, they'd have seen a party with no bar. People were cutting up acting more like they were in a club. This hospital is located in small Conservative town. It was appalling.

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– SteveRogers42 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ezekiel Emanuel, huh? Who woulda thunk it?

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