craigslist deleted the post less than 12 hours later. wow. I really am looking for a Pastor that has not succumbed to these covid lies. Currently the Pastor of my church still requires masks and supports the vaccine and boosters fully. He believes there is no conspiracy to enslave us. Im at a loss. How can these people of God have no discernment on what is really happening? how? I love my Pastor but he's lost in this how?
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (161)
sorted by:
These times have driven home more than ever WHY Jesus made his sacrifice. Not only to save us from out own sin, but to tear the veil between man and God and to allow each of us to be our own temple, to have our own personal connection, no "holy middleman" required, no "false church" needed.
im starting to see this clearly, its heartbreaking.
I can understand that.
For me - it’s very validating.
I’ve been around preachers my whole life telling me how I should love God.
Once I sorted out they are just middle management - I started really developing my personal relationship with God and only communicating directly with folks in study.
A Pastor that Acts as a representative to God is a forked-tongue-liar. They should be emphasizing you developing your own direct line to God. If they don’t - be immediately suspect.
MOST OF ALL IF THEY DO NOT EMPHASIZE SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND HOW JESUS CONFRONTED DEMONS HEAD ON - RUN
If they are into a works doctrine, run.
Perhaps we are talking past each other, but consider a person who accepts Jesus, and then becomes a child rapist murderer. Where do they stand?
Perhaps I misunderstand the “grace alone” crowd. I think it’s obvious we must have faith in Christ, and as James says, faith without works is dead. We have to do our best. Christ knows we’re going to screw up every day - what he wants is effort. Belief that is manifest through sincere effort.
True. It was probably a pissy individual that got it removed, not Craigslist per se.
It's so bullshit. Craigslist is almost unusable now because of that.
Know of any good alternatives?
It should be heartwarming! Why do you need someone else to draw close to God? Are they going to get you to Heaven?
Jesus said, "Take up your cross and follow me." Matthew 16:24-26. You have to work out your own worth, on your own, to be able to reach Jesus.
These churches, like governments, provide weak points where the Cabal can instill their own corruption and control - the leaders.
Some people like the community aspect of church. Others seek a pastor to be able to discuss things with or for counseling. There are many reasons.
The true church is focused on the great commission(to get the Word out).
Same. So much of my life has been spent in dark when it comes to religion. Only the last 2 years have shown me how false it is. My relationship with God is now between me and Him, nobody else needed.
Don't view it as heartbreaking. View it as freeing. You are a free human. You are connected to your Creator, and no man can EVER be put into the middle of that, again, unless you choose to do so.
Imagine being on a stranded island. You don't need a preacher. You don't need a pastor. God is with you, always. You already know that in your heart.
This☝️💯💯💯💯
The fact that some pastors are bad doesn't mean they are all bad and anyone trying to destabilize or discourage organized religion is Satan's tool. You need to find a true Bible believing church with an authentic pastor. Too many people are scarred by bad churches and then blame the entire church instead of blaming the bad church. You can't read the Bible and come away without understanding God wants his people to have regular fellowship with each other, and that work has been called church for 2000 years. If you just listen to that inner voice you're likely to be led a stray and some other direction. You need other people to help you stay accountable and honest.
Not to mention many churches help the community and give back. Food drives and things like that on a local level.
Matthew 8 verse 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And the the Lord's Prayer starts at verse 9
I think Jesus is saying we don't need an intermediary between ourselves and God. Therefore, any State requirement that we need to be a member of a State approved church (which is against the Constitution) is also not mentioned in the Bible, at least in the New Testament.
That verse is talking about not boasting about your religion or praying in public to get some sort of virtue signalling credit, to not try to make yourself look better to others or to claim you're closer to God than others so you're therefore better, things like that. That when you pray, be alone, don't show off to others or boast about your religion. Don't think you're better than others because you pray. Just do it quietly and without fanfare in a personal way with God. It is not saying we don't need pastors or churches. I tend to think pastors are overrated too, but that's not what that verse is talking about.