"Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" - Canadian buddy shared this with me
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In Alberta "unvaccinated" is defined as "anyone 14 days or under their second shot." And the hospitals are still filled with "fully vaxed."
In addition, there is a category now shown in these pie chart. People whose vaccination status is unknown. If you wanted to manipulate the date, you could chose to shift some cases into that category.
According to their numbers, there should be 423 people in ICU who have tested positive for COVID (per https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations). The above ICU chart only adds up to 278. It looks like they have 145 patients for which they do not list a vaccination status. In addition, they used to have a disclaimer for the above numbers about them only showing the patients whose vaccination status is known. They have since removed that disclaimer for some reason.
Here is the website where the above came from from reference:
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
If you scroll down to just the regular "COVID-19 cases by vaccination status" you will notice 2 things:
If you click on the "Table" view for the graph below "COVID-19 cases by vaccination status" (the default view is "Graph") they list out "Vaccination status unknown Cases". So they do show these for the non hospitalized cases but don't bother to show them for the hospital cases.
If you look at the number of cases per 100,000k people (this is a population adjusted number), more vaccinated people are testing positive on a per 100,000k basis than unvaccinated or even partially vaccinated. Note that the same government that releases these numbers claims the vaccine is the solution to this virus even as their own numbers contradict them.
I will finish off by saying that I have been following this data for the last few months and at times it does behave in a weird way. For example, in late November, the share of fully vaccinated patients in both graphs seemed to be unnaturally adjusted over a period of 3 days. I base this on:
On the last day of this period, the reduction in fully vaccinated patients was exceptionally high in the "In Hospital but not the ICU" graph. Almost twice as high as the number of patients typically added or removed. And it was not coming off a weekend where some hospitals don't report new numbers and then report them all at once (it was November 24th to 25th).
It reversed the trend that was true for at least the last 2 months, where the fully vaccinated group kept gaining share of all the patients. Not every day due to natural variability, but in the long term. There was never a 3 day period where this trend was broken and so significantly.
After this perceived adjustment, the trend resumed (the share of fully vaccinated patients continued to increase again when compared to all the other groups).
Over that period, both the hospital and ICU graphs trended in the same direction at all times. You would expect this if the numbers were both being manipulated together. In itself, this is not proof of anything as both these categories are related so do typically change in the same direction on any given day. However, days where they change in opposite directions are not uncommon and for both of them go opposite to a well established trend for 3 days straight is suspicious.
What I’ve seen is they try to claim the control breaks down like
They gaslight them in an attempt to try and skew / lessen the reality of the numbers by implying there are far more serious illnesses in the unvaccinated - which every single report contradicts. It really is %90 gaslighting and lies they know will be bolstered by the %10 of Confirmation Bias in the normies
Meanwhile they are slowly sorting out that while they feel sicker and sicker and more tired - their friends that are unvaxxed don’t feel shit for the most part.
YESSS THIS
According to this data, a larger proportion of the vaxx-free population is hospitalized than the vaxxed.
The problem is that incidental cases - cases where someone was hospitalized for a non-C19 reason - are included in the stats.
As I understand it, if a vaxxed person goes into the hospital for something like appendicitis, they will not be screened for C19 as part of the process because they are vaxxed. However, if a vaxx-free person is admitted for appendicitis, they are screened for C19, and if they test positive, then they are considered a vaxx-free C19 hospitalization even if they have no symptoms.
Wow! Thanks for the explanation!
Did you read How to Lie With Statistics? LOL
Thx for posting this info, I wasnt gonna bother to look at the actual website because of all the uncertainties that are usually in the released data. To me, the screenshot suggests that the vax does indeed reduce hospitalization.
The vax rate is 77-80% in Ontario, they only make up 55% of icu beds.
They do, however account for ~76% of non-ICU hospital admissions.
Based on this data alone, one could come to the conclusion that the vax does prevent severe disease.
BUT WE MUST ASK OURSELVES, HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY TRUST ANY DATA COMING FROM THESE PEOPLE...
Not a shill, just a guy who looks at information objectively.
In Alberta, Canada, the vaccinated are starting to take the lead… https://greatawakening.win/p/141EiSzCRd/in-alberta-vaccinated-are-starti/c/
It also seems deceptive that they have the largest portion of the circle a lighter colour than the smaller portions, I think it should be the other way around.
But what is the vaccination rate in Ontario?
If it’s 50%, then the vaxxed may be more prone to serious infection.
If it’s 90%, the unvaxxed are disproportionately effected.
I hate the vax. But math is important.
Hmm not sure I agree with that assessment. If 80% of the population gets vax, and the same percentage of vaxxed/unvaxxed get sick, then it will look like 4x more risk for vax population. Based on this graphic, something like 3x more hospitalizations were vaxxed and maybe 1.2x ICU were vaxxed...but Canada has four times as many vaxxed people as unvaxxed. Bottom line then is that unvaxxed are more likely to be hospitalized and much more likely to go to ICU.
Assuming these numbers are accurate, of course.
If you click the context button and scroll down to the "COVID-19 cases by vaccination status" section, you will see that on about 12/23 the vaccinated surpassed the unvaccinated as a rate per 1000.
I have to ask, how do you add that context button ?
After you create a new post, there is a "set context" link underneath it. Its near the "save" and "delete" links.
That shows case rate, not hospitalization or ICU rate. That is not relevant unless we can also see how many of each group never got tested. Most stats I have seen show that vaxxed get tested at a much higher rate (probably because they fear the virus more).
youre right and it's too bad people are accusing you of mental gymnastics. i had to take a lot of statistics courses for my work and your math is accurate.
I don't necessarily believe the data that's being released and I think hospitals are killing patients BUT, your interpretation of this graph being presented IS accurate!
The ICU counts are almost even between vaxxed and and unvaxxed when there are 4x more vaxxed. Not sure I follow your logic but that clearly shows unvaxxed go to ICU at a much higher rate.
You are correct. It is a statistical error to compare rates for the vaccinated and unvaccinated based on the general population total. If we lived in a perfect world, I’d want to see propensity score matching for patients and vaccination totals that weren’t “potentially incredibly overestimated” like Bloomberg admitted last month.
The biggest issue is that we cannot trust any of the data being presented. The definition of vaccinated is constantly changing, people are being included in counts when they aren’t even admitted for COVID, and there’s financial incentive to record “COVID cases” and “COVID deaths” that throw all data collection and analysis into question.
Until such time we can establish data integrity, comparing these rates is basically worthless.
This is the correct statement. But. They aren't telling you what they're in icu for. Just that they're in icu
These numbers are people hospitalized or in ICU for covid related reasons.
You really lost me on that one. Makes no sense at all.
What doesn't make sense? In a population of 100, say 80 are vaxxed. Say also that 40 vaxxed go to ICU and 10 unvaxxed go to ICU...50% of each. You can't say vaxxed are 4x more likely because the relative rate is the same (and in this data unvaxxed are clearly not going to ICU at the same rate).
This is literally what cognitive dissonance is.
Maybe unvaxed more likely to be sent to ICU because not getting any treatments like Ivermectin. Thats only for the vaxed! So many variables, they are spinning the numbers so many ways.