Also, 17 isn't a pedophile. Still pretty gross, but also one year over many age of consent laws so it's hard to get super riled up over that specifically.
As a rule, I would like my female friends to be old enough to drink even though I don't like alcohol. Just seems like a solid number.
To the downvote: Do you really think that someone who is 17 years and 364 days old suddenly becomes different hours later? No, of course not. There is a big difference between a child, an adolescent and an adult. At just about 18 years of age, society has decided you are an adult. A pedophile is a pedophile because of their attraction to a child; a 17 year old doesn't physically grow much more, male and female alike. So if the dude is a pedophile for a 17 year old, then congrats; if you've ever been attracted to a woman from 18 to 30 years old then so are you.
I have a special grudge against pedophiles; it's hard to invoke that grudge on a 17 year old's behalf where everyone involved including her parents agreed.
You really want to make them mad? Remind them it used to be 10 and that Christian Feminists are they reason it was raised. The left isn't the only side with delusion and cognitive dissonance.
The Theotokos (St. Mary) was about 14 or 15 years old when she had Christ. I think one of the differences is back then "children" were more educated in the ways of the world, they didn't sit around all day on an ipad watching TV. And I think this is a big change with maturity as well depending on what kinds of situations you are exposed to, if you have to wake up at sunrise every single day to work on your family's goat farm your maturity will be different because at a certain age your expected to do things.
That being said, do I think in todays world its acceptable to have sex with a 14 or 15 year old? No, because their maturity level and level of understanding is much less than a 14 or 15 year old in the B.C. era.
I also think the gamboling age, and age to go to war should be increased to 21. If not then everything should be lowered to 18, it shouldn't be you can go to war at 18 but can't have a drink are you more mature to go to war and end up mentally damaged from PTSD than to drink?
On a somewhat related note, my observation, the concept of the teenager as we think of them didn't really seem to have come about until after WWII, and the idea that teenager = child seems to have started in the eighties.
Please continue to call out Christian hypocrisy with me. I am a follower of Christ, but Christ's "religion" consisted of doing what He said and "where two or more of my people gather, there I am also". There's nothing to do with buildings, priests or any of the made up non-sense. Most of the Christian religion is based on Paul NOT Christ. Christ never established a religion. Technically following Christ is a lifestyle choice as well.
But anyway, I don't go out of my way, but when I see it, I call it out for what it is. And yes, some of the more insecure types are still getting over themselves, but as a whole when you invoke logic reasoning and respect, most will start to listen and change themselves.
I am secure in my beliefs. I do not need anyone's permission to have them or anyone's approval for how I follow them. My relationship with God is between Him and I and no one else. Therefore, whatever anyone else claims, is their business. Someone saying they don' believe in God, does not magically speak Him out of existence. God doesn't stop existing just because some people don't believe, yet a lot of Christians knee-jerk react to Seth McFarline making jokes as though he aborted a million puppies and say his jokes are persecution... yeah nevermind people being stoned to death and tortured, Peter Griffin making fun of Jesus is clearly the same... fuckin children.
Funnily enough, while I do believe that what a lot of people believe is 'Christianity' is honestly bullshit, I find myself more unwilling these days to shit on Christianity now that I know that Islam and Judaism seem to be untouchable, while Christianity is an open target.
I agree. At the end of the day, consent was involved. I don't like it, but it's not my business nor anyone's especially the government's if consent was involved.
I do believe adulthood should START at 13. By start I mean education should be tailored to what kids want to learn, kids should learn at least two or three skill trades by the time they graduate at 18. Also, sex laws need massive overhaul. What you bring up is a very important issue. An 18 or even 20 year old shouldn't have to register as a sex offender for having an SO as young as 15. As long as both parties are consenting, that is their business. No sex whatsoever until after you're 13 and even then it should be five year threshold until age 15 or 20 depending on what the society consensus is. By that I mean 19 y/o can't sleep w/ 13-15 y/o, but even those standards should be case by case cause again 15 is only a 4 year difference to 19. Bottom line, no I am not okay with 20 year gaps for teens, but our laws are still wrong in this regard.
Traditionally you were an adult at 13 and so also beer and wine should be introduced. It's how the European cultures do it while they still have a party culture, they are a lot less rowdy than our frat house culture... kids learn how to respect alcohol at a younger age. At 18 though, everything should be available. If you can fight and die for your country, you can smoke, drink and sleep around. 18 should be full adult status. None of this second class citizen bullshit until 21.
Also, 17 isn't a pedophile. Still pretty gross, but also one year over many age of consent laws so it's hard to get super riled up over that specifically.
As a rule, I would like my female friends to be old enough to drink even though I don't like alcohol. Just seems like a solid number.
To the downvote: Do you really think that someone who is 17 years and 364 days old suddenly becomes different hours later? No, of course not. There is a big difference between a child, an adolescent and an adult. At just about 18 years of age, society has decided you are an adult. A pedophile is a pedophile because of their attraction to a child; a 17 year old doesn't physically grow much more, male and female alike. So if the dude is a pedophile for a 17 year old, then congrats; if you've ever been attracted to a woman from 18 to 30 years old then so are you.
I have a special grudge against pedophiles; it's hard to invoke that grudge on a 17 year old's behalf where everyone involved including her parents agreed.
This is too reasonable and logical for the pitch forking mob here.
You really want to make them mad? Remind them it used to be 10 and that Christian Feminists are they reason it was raised. The left isn't the only side with delusion and cognitive dissonance.
True statement and is proven every day on this site multiple times.
The Theotokos (St. Mary) was about 14 or 15 years old when she had Christ. I think one of the differences is back then "children" were more educated in the ways of the world, they didn't sit around all day on an ipad watching TV. And I think this is a big change with maturity as well depending on what kinds of situations you are exposed to, if you have to wake up at sunrise every single day to work on your family's goat farm your maturity will be different because at a certain age your expected to do things.
That being said, do I think in todays world its acceptable to have sex with a 14 or 15 year old? No, because their maturity level and level of understanding is much less than a 14 or 15 year old in the B.C. era.
I also think the gamboling age, and age to go to war should be increased to 21. If not then everything should be lowered to 18, it shouldn't be you can go to war at 18 but can't have a drink are you more mature to go to war and end up mentally damaged from PTSD than to drink?
On a somewhat related note, my observation, the concept of the teenager as we think of them didn't really seem to have come about until after WWII, and the idea that teenager = child seems to have started in the eighties.
Do you agree?
Please continue to call out Christian hypocrisy with me. I am a follower of Christ, but Christ's "religion" consisted of doing what He said and "where two or more of my people gather, there I am also". There's nothing to do with buildings, priests or any of the made up non-sense. Most of the Christian religion is based on Paul NOT Christ. Christ never established a religion. Technically following Christ is a lifestyle choice as well.
But anyway, I don't go out of my way, but when I see it, I call it out for what it is. And yes, some of the more insecure types are still getting over themselves, but as a whole when you invoke logic reasoning and respect, most will start to listen and change themselves.
I am secure in my beliefs. I do not need anyone's permission to have them or anyone's approval for how I follow them. My relationship with God is between Him and I and no one else. Therefore, whatever anyone else claims, is their business. Someone saying they don' believe in God, does not magically speak Him out of existence. God doesn't stop existing just because some people don't believe, yet a lot of Christians knee-jerk react to Seth McFarline making jokes as though he aborted a million puppies and say his jokes are persecution... yeah nevermind people being stoned to death and tortured, Peter Griffin making fun of Jesus is clearly the same... fuckin children.
Funnily enough, while I do believe that what a lot of people believe is 'Christianity' is honestly bullshit, I find myself more unwilling these days to shit on Christianity now that I know that Islam and Judaism seem to be untouchable, while Christianity is an open target.
I agree. At the end of the day, consent was involved. I don't like it, but it's not my business nor anyone's especially the government's if consent was involved.
I do believe adulthood should START at 13. By start I mean education should be tailored to what kids want to learn, kids should learn at least two or three skill trades by the time they graduate at 18. Also, sex laws need massive overhaul. What you bring up is a very important issue. An 18 or even 20 year old shouldn't have to register as a sex offender for having an SO as young as 15. As long as both parties are consenting, that is their business. No sex whatsoever until after you're 13 and even then it should be five year threshold until age 15 or 20 depending on what the society consensus is. By that I mean 19 y/o can't sleep w/ 13-15 y/o, but even those standards should be case by case cause again 15 is only a 4 year difference to 19. Bottom line, no I am not okay with 20 year gaps for teens, but our laws are still wrong in this regard.
Traditionally you were an adult at 13 and so also beer and wine should be introduced. It's how the European cultures do it while they still have a party culture, they are a lot less rowdy than our frat house culture... kids learn how to respect alcohol at a younger age. At 18 though, everything should be available. If you can fight and die for your country, you can smoke, drink and sleep around. 18 should be full adult status. None of this second class citizen bullshit until 21.