I don’t think they were taken out. I don’t remember who, maybe their manager, told them not to fly on that plane. Steven Tyler’s brother told him the same thing. He was supposed to use that plane & didn’t.
Ronnie insisted on leaving that day & not waiting.
I heard all this on a documentary on Netflix. The living band members talk about being in the band, the crash, early days of the band & go to the crash site.
I watched another documentary that’s older. I don’t remember the name. This one was better to me. It gave more details about the band I’d never heard.
A few years ago there was a story about Laurel Canyon and Clowns in America. It was a good story; it talked about how so many famous musicians from the 60's were children of high ranking military personnel. CSN&Y were mentioned. Here is a pdf version of the book, “Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation.” by Dave McGowan: http://www.conspirazzi.com/e-books/inside-the-lc.pdf
Thanks for posting this. I watched a Netflix documentary about Laurel Canyon & of course they play it off like it was the best place in the world. In my opinion it’s easy to put rose colored glasses on something and see only the good. Sure great music came from that era but at what cost. Orgies, drugs, ODs & God knows what else went on behind closed doors.
I said I watched it on Netflix. I never said Netflix made the documentary. Maybe Netflix does spin their content to what they want people to hear. This documentary was made by Showtime & the remaining living band members. Believe what you want to believe, it’s not going to make a difference in my life.
Honestly every network & entertainment company has the ability to stretch the truth. So do the people involved in the story that matter. Are we ever told the truth? Probably not! That said, I refuse to live my life negatively thinking everything is a lie. I watch & listen and make up my own mind.
I think some of these artists are so good at these skills (music, Arctic, whatever) because they themselves were traumatized repeatedly as children and they focused so much on something else they got very good at it.
I wish I had the talent of writing. You are so correct, the best writing comes from pain. Most of the music I listen to is singer songwriters. It’s interesting how their music changes over their life. They are real people going through bad & good things & it shows in the lyrics.
(Not directed at you.) 🤣 Yet, the North owned slaves also. I’ll never understand the slave argument. Slavery still exist today and certain groups are still concerned about the slavery of the south before the civil war. Slavery was and has always been wrong!
I’d like to see your source. That’s hard for me to believe. I’ve watched a lot of interviews about Ronnie Van Zant & the band.
**** The song in question has always been perceived as an anti-gun protest song. Actually it’s more complicated, more nuanced than that.
Saturday Night Special was a protest song with a caveat. In the words written and sung by Ronnie Van Zant, the leading figure in the band’s first great era, there was a question that went to the heart of America’s gun culture: ‘Why don’t we dump ’em, people, to the bottom of the sea?’ But the truth was that Ronnie Van Zant was no anti-gun campaigner.
On the contrary, at the time when he wrote the song he owned a .22 calibre pistol. He used it when hunting for rabbits and squirrels in the woods around the band’s home town of Jacksonville, Florida. What Ronnie was advocating in the song was greater control of illegal handguns – specifically a type of gun that was freely available on the black market in 1970s America, and could be bought for as little as 20 dollars; a gun commonly known as a Saturday Night Special. As Ronnie stated in the song’s chorus: ‘Mister Saturday Night Special, got a barrel that’s blue and cold/Ain’t good for nothin’, but put a man six feet in the hole.’
He had a rifle and a. 22. He wanted them for shooting swamp creatures and if there was a home invasion, but wanted more gun control because of how irresponsible people were
Gutfeld seemed to think that Neil Young's "open letter" was just virtue signaling and that he wasn't really going to pull his music from Spotify because of Joe Rogan. Surprise. Spotify pulled his music.
Neil Young's last decent record was "Wonderin'" by Neil & The Shocking Pinks. And that was almost 40 years ago.
Crosby, Stills, Nash and sometimes Neil. Young joined the band just about the time they appeared at Woodstock in '69 got some huge exposure and by the end of that tour he managed to break up the band.
Does this have any significance? Steven Stills formed a "rock supergroup" named Manassas. The group had two albums, "Manassas" and "Down the Road."
From Wikipedia:
"The band named itself Manassas after Stills, who had an interest in American Civil War history, orchestrated a photo shoot for them in Manassas, Virginia, the site of the First and Second Battles of Bull Run (1861 and 1862, respectively)."
The first battle was the first major land battle of the Civil War. The Confederates won both battles and actually, if they had followed the Union frantic retreat to DC, could have taken the Capital. They didn't.
The photo was taken at the town's train station. The town is actually a few miles east of the battlefields.
Read about how he treated his fellow musicians in Buffalo Springfield. A selfish, unpredictable, spoiling jackass. He's written some good songs, but he's ruined a lot of people's plans. Also see: The Ducks. What a fucking asshole. He's also part of The Eye, I'm told. Hence his actions (does he have puppet strings?).
After q talks about plane crashes you really wonder what actually happened to Ronnie and friends. Damn shame.
And Buddy Holly, Ricky Nelson, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Randy Rhoades and the list goes on.
I forgot John Denver, Otis Redding and Ritchie Valens.
I don’t think they were taken out. I don’t remember who, maybe their manager, told them not to fly on that plane. Steven Tyler’s brother told him the same thing. He was supposed to use that plane & didn’t. Ronnie insisted on leaving that day & not waiting. I heard all this on a documentary on Netflix. The living band members talk about being in the band, the crash, early days of the band & go to the crash site. I watched another documentary that’s older. I don’t remember the name. This one was better to me. It gave more details about the band I’d never heard.
https://decider.com/2018/08/17/lynyrd-skynyrd-if-i-leave-here-tomorrow-review/amp/
A few years ago there was a story about Laurel Canyon and Clowns in America. It was a good story; it talked about how so many famous musicians from the 60's were children of high ranking military personnel. CSN&Y were mentioned. Here is a pdf version of the book, “Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation.” by Dave McGowan: http://www.conspirazzi.com/e-books/inside-the-lc.pdf
Thanks for posting this. I watched a Netflix documentary about Laurel Canyon & of course they play it off like it was the best place in the world. In my opinion it’s easy to put rose colored glasses on something and see only the good. Sure great music came from that era but at what cost. Orgies, drugs, ODs & God knows what else went on behind closed doors.
Netflix puts a fake news spin on everything and they always try to insert their woke ideologies.
I said I watched it on Netflix. I never said Netflix made the documentary. Maybe Netflix does spin their content to what they want people to hear. This documentary was made by Showtime & the remaining living band members. Believe what you want to believe, it’s not going to make a difference in my life. Honestly every network & entertainment company has the ability to stretch the truth. So do the people involved in the story that matter. Are we ever told the truth? Probably not! That said, I refuse to live my life negatively thinking everything is a lie. I watch & listen and make up my own mind.
Neil is the absolute king of licensing out his music, then demanding people he doesn't like to stop using it, after they have already paid for it.
He has never offered to refund the money.
I think some of these artists are so good at these skills (music, Arctic, whatever) because they themselves were traumatized repeatedly as children and they focused so much on something else they got very good at it.
Most of these Privileged “Stars” are victims.
I've done my best writing during the darkest of times. Pain and suffering, depression, etc are absolutely catalysts for creativity.
I wish I had the talent of writing. You are so correct, the best writing comes from pain. Most of the music I listen to is singer songwriters. It’s interesting how their music changes over their life. They are real people going through bad & good things & it shows in the lyrics.
Ronnie knew exactly what he was talking about.
Can someone please provide the story here. Who did Neil put down? What happened? Thanks frens
The song Southern Man by neil young critizises the south for slavery
(Not directed at you.) 🤣 Yet, the North owned slaves also. I’ll never understand the slave argument. Slavery still exist today and certain groups are still concerned about the slavery of the south before the civil war. Slavery was and has always been wrong!
Ironic isn't it? Considering he's asking for exactly which he condemned.
Old, fat washout Neil Young should consider stuffing his free speech hating fat face in the toilet and holding it there until the bubbles stop.
Stills was the only good one
When u suck as bad as Neil Young you need to tow the commke line to keep getting paid.
The lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd was anti-gun, and kind of a lefty.
I’d like to see your source. That’s hard for me to believe. I’ve watched a lot of interviews about Ronnie Van Zant & the band.
**** The song in question has always been perceived as an anti-gun protest song. Actually it’s more complicated, more nuanced than that.
Saturday Night Special was a protest song with a caveat. In the words written and sung by Ronnie Van Zant, the leading figure in the band’s first great era, there was a question that went to the heart of America’s gun culture: ‘Why don’t we dump ’em, people, to the bottom of the sea?’ But the truth was that Ronnie Van Zant was no anti-gun campaigner.
On the contrary, at the time when he wrote the song he owned a .22 calibre pistol. He used it when hunting for rabbits and squirrels in the woods around the band’s home town of Jacksonville, Florida. What Ronnie was advocating in the song was greater control of illegal handguns – specifically a type of gun that was freely available on the black market in 1970s America, and could be bought for as little as 20 dollars; a gun commonly known as a Saturday Night Special. As Ronnie stated in the song’s chorus: ‘Mister Saturday Night Special, got a barrel that’s blue and cold/Ain’t good for nothin’, but put a man six feet in the hole.’
https://www.loudersound.com/amp/features/the-story-behind-saturday-night-special-by-lynyrd-skynyrd
My source was an interview with Ronnie himself, and is posted in this thread.
If you find it please share. If I do I’ll share. Thanks
He wasn't anti gun at all. He was anti handgun, but he still owned them
What do you think about gun control? "I think they ought to throw all of 'em away."
https://youtu.be/1Kxt_7TTSkA
Well he sings as much in Saturday night special.
But he was also a multiple gun owner
He said he had only one gun, and it was an antique that he hung on the wall.
He had a rifle and a. 22. He wanted them for shooting swamp creatures and if there was a home invasion, but wanted more gun control because of how irresponsible people were
Gutfeld seemed to think that Neil Young's "open letter" was just virtue signaling and that he wasn't really going to pull his music from Spotify because of Joe Rogan. Surprise. Spotify pulled his music.
Neil Young's last decent record was "Wonderin'" by Neil & The Shocking Pinks. And that was almost 40 years ago.
Nothing wrong with Zuma too. Deja Vu rocked.
I never heard of him...... never....
WWG1WGA
Crosby, Stills, Nash and sometimes Neil. Young joined the band just about the time they appeared at Woodstock in '69 got some huge exposure and by the end of that tour he managed to break up the band.
Does this have any significance? Steven Stills formed a "rock supergroup" named Manassas. The group had two albums, "Manassas" and "Down the Road."
From Wikipedia: "The band named itself Manassas after Stills, who had an interest in American Civil War history, orchestrated a photo shoot for them in Manassas, Virginia, the site of the First and Second Battles of Bull Run (1861 and 1862, respectively)."
The first battle was the first major land battle of the Civil War. The Confederates won both battles and actually, if they had followed the Union frantic retreat to DC, could have taken the Capital. They didn't.
The photo was taken at the town's train station. The town is actually a few miles east of the battlefields.
Read about how he treated his fellow musicians in Buffalo Springfield. A selfish, unpredictable, spoiling jackass. He's written some good songs, but he's ruined a lot of people's plans. Also see: The Ducks. What a fucking asshole. He's also part of The Eye, I'm told. Hence his actions (does he have puppet strings?).