Yes its good to question generally accepted things but when you say something like "mass graves" and then post a video of one car full of people who have been killed and dragged into a ditch on the side of the road it kind of makes you seem like youre overexxagerating a little bit. Thats not mass graves, thats like 6 people and some dogs that we have zero context for. For all i know the cameraman did all that.
Exactly, it could be a simple thing as gang warfare, must remember a few days ago they handed out a load of guns to whoever, could be revenge killings or drug warfare for all we know.
If they were handing guns out in my city all the different gangs will be first to get them as they don't want to be the only ones w/o them.
Then as all the authorities are worried about the Russian army the gangs can kill their competitors, then Russia gets the blame, that's my 2¢, could be wrong and I can't prove that but I've been thinking of that when I heard they're handing guns out.
Russia can be the Good guys...and also assho's at same time.......1 doesnt mean the other doesnt exist. Nice people to evil things, and Evil people do things that are sometimes for the greater good. We have to see what is REALLY habbening in Ukraine. Right now seems a bit too early to let Putin off the hook in my opinion, like you, But he is at the same time blowing up Deep State labs and shit.
This, exactly. To expect anyone to be perfect in the fallen world is unrealistic. Putin has done some horrible things. He has done some good things. At the moment he seems to be doing some good things.
This does not mean I want to move to Russia.
Discernment reminds us we have ALL fallen short of perfection, and we need the Holy Ghost to help us strive to be better, and need Salvation through Jesus, so that Grace allows us into Heaven, rather than having to revert to Hebrew sacrifices. Jesus came for the Gentiles "non-jews" to give salvation to the world, as beforehand most all had to be converted for salvation....but this is another story for another time.
Evil people are rmasters at looking innocent, also. It's a survival trait for them they use every day. Surrounding yourself with innocents is also a great way to shield yourself from harm.
Imagine if a world power came in to “clean up” corruption here in the US. What would that look like to us?
Would people be up in arms fighting them?
Would some stand in front of their tanks?
People saying russia is the good guy is binary thinking. Its more complex than that, trust your instincts more. Also def avoid all mainstream media on this, there is so much manipulation: https://twitter.com/incontextmedia/status/1498011536891207680
I hear you and sometimes feel the same, but you have to look at everything that we're being told - whether positive or negative - as potential disinformation because in this type of war, both sides use it. I know it's hard to emotionally detach because it's in your face from every angle, but try anyway. DEEP, dark roots are being torn from the corrupt system that's been in place for a long time, and they're resisting. And if you're watching TV, please turn it off. It'll only continue to add to the negativity because that's the intention. Praying for you...and all of us, really, because I think it's about to get bumpy on this ride.
In these clips I see Russian soldiers showing a lot of restraint. No idea what happened in the van incident. Who know what lead to that shooting. If this is the most outrageous video clips you can find during an armed conflict, I would say very mild.
I agree about ignoring all media. I've stayed away from it since the election was stolen and the dementia patient was put in place. I have not taken a side in this. I feel bad for the people in harm's way. The innocent ones. Every country has 99% of good people. The <1% are the scum whether oligarchs, 'leaders' , tyrants or other.
Just like China, so is the Ukraine. The Chinese people as a whole are just regular, good folk, as the people of Ukraine are regular, good folk. Both have shit, oppressive regimes in place.
Take a cue from Q, what if Trump were working with Putin and Xi? I can't find the post to reference, but it's an actual post.
Aside from that, look at all the BS narrative MSM is cramming down our throats. Don't have to believe Putin is a white hat, but he's definitely not as the world is insinuating.
It is now apparent that there is a Ukrainian policy of shooting civilians trying to leave cities. Footage comes from Mariupol where a husband and wife come upon a massacre at a Ukrainian checkpoint. Woman was also killed.
On this GAW earlier (I don't have the link), a Kiev resident is talking about Zelensky giving guns to everybody, and most of them are in the hands of gangsters, who are going on shooting sprees (gang warfare for dominance).
At least some of the pictures of atrocities look like gang violence than military (like the Van of people and dogs shot up). Just a guess...
Follow this guy on yt before he's taken down. American in Ukr. He was just kicked out of his Kiev hotel and doxed as a Russian mouthpiece (when he is NOT) because he simply is reporting exactly what he is experiencing.
To be clear: this is not a good guy/bad guy equation.
That is how the Controllers want to present it, so they can control it.
Information coming from the battlefield is not to be trusted without ample verification — Russia puts out propaganda too.
But certain facts are unavoidable. The Maidan massacre and coup, the deep state pushing Russia’s Red line to provoke war, the peace treaties - Minsk 1&2 ignored. The facts Putin has laid out are correct. His actions may not be justified but they are understandable.
The full court press lockstep narrative that Putin is “invading” and Ukraine is the victim is false. The West pushes this to avoid scrutiny and culpability.
Putin’s legal standing, however, would only be justified if he can show imminent danger — like Colin Powell at the UN with a vial of ‘yellow cake’ — except with real evidence. Because only the US can get away with lying their way into war.
But Putin identified biological labs as an urgent threat in 2017. As Gates, Fauci and every news outlet has been warning of a “new pandemic,” anons speculate that the labs in Ukraine, perhaps the Lugar Center in Kiev, may be the next Wuhan.
Putin recognizing Donetsk and Luhansk is essentially what Minsk calls for — an agreement negotiated by France and Germany and signed in to by the US. We have had every opportunity since 2015 to assure peace though helping Ukraine abide by the terms of these mutual agreements.
The fact is the criminal cabal who have been using Ukraine as a piggy bank and ‘black site’ do not want peace or be restrained by the rule of law. So any “cheerleading’ for Putin is recognizing he is targeting the same criminal enterprise that we are.
The fog of war blinds us all, but keep in mind that there are clear realities beneath the fog.
I think we need to remember even the anons and pedes here aren't perfect, let alone major players that have huge battles going on. There are also unknown events that we need to consider, like a history of persecution in their past they are responding from. It's good not to idolize people, better to rejoice in good things happening. The more significant the issue, the bigger the battle will occur, and more casualties from that. We need more than easy wins and trivial feel good moments to make lasting change. This isn't for everyone.
You are right: we don't know. Unless you have personal connections and knowledge, we rely on 3rd party hearsay. The really fake stuff is easy to dismiss, but it provides cover for other fake stuff to slip by.
I’m inclined to root for anything George Soros is against.
Yep, or against anything Soros, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Pelosi, Kerry, Schumer, Schiff, Cheney, Harris, or Biden is for.
Let’s not forget Schwab and Rothschild
You are not wrong, keep discerning everything.
We're all in this together.
Yes its good to question generally accepted things but when you say something like "mass graves" and then post a video of one car full of people who have been killed and dragged into a ditch on the side of the road it kind of makes you seem like youre overexxagerating a little bit. Thats not mass graves, thats like 6 people and some dogs that we have zero context for. For all i know the cameraman did all that.
How do you know the Russians committed the crime in the videos?
Exactly, it could be a simple thing as gang warfare, must remember a few days ago they handed out a load of guns to whoever, could be revenge killings or drug warfare for all we know.
If they were handing guns out in my city all the different gangs will be first to get them as they don't want to be the only ones w/o them.
Then as all the authorities are worried about the Russian army the gangs can kill their competitors, then Russia gets the blame, that's my 2¢, could be wrong and I can't prove that but I've been thinking of that when I heard they're handing guns out.
Russia can be the Good guys...and also assho's at same time.......1 doesnt mean the other doesnt exist. Nice people to evil things, and Evil people do things that are sometimes for the greater good. We have to see what is REALLY habbening in Ukraine. Right now seems a bit too early to let Putin off the hook in my opinion, like you, But he is at the same time blowing up Deep State labs and shit.
This, exactly. To expect anyone to be perfect in the fallen world is unrealistic. Putin has done some horrible things. He has done some good things. At the moment he seems to be doing some good things.
This does not mean I want to move to Russia.
Discernment reminds us we have ALL fallen short of perfection, and we need the Holy Ghost to help us strive to be better, and need Salvation through Jesus, so that Grace allows us into Heaven, rather than having to revert to Hebrew sacrifices. Jesus came for the Gentiles "non-jews" to give salvation to the world, as beforehand most all had to be converted for salvation....but this is another story for another time.
Evil people are rmasters at looking innocent, also. It's a survival trait for them they use every day. Surrounding yourself with innocents is also a great way to shield yourself from harm.
Imagine if a world power came in to “clean up” corruption here in the US. What would that look like to us? Would people be up in arms fighting them? Would some stand in front of their tanks?
We could sure use some REAL journalism on this.
👆🏼This.
People saying russia is the good guy is binary thinking. Its more complex than that, trust your instincts more. Also def avoid all mainstream media on this, there is so much manipulation: https://twitter.com/incontextmedia/status/1498011536891207680
I hear you and sometimes feel the same, but you have to look at everything that we're being told - whether positive or negative - as potential disinformation because in this type of war, both sides use it. I know it's hard to emotionally detach because it's in your face from every angle, but try anyway. DEEP, dark roots are being torn from the corrupt system that's been in place for a long time, and they're resisting. And if you're watching TV, please turn it off. It'll only continue to add to the negativity because that's the intention. Praying for you...and all of us, really, because I think it's about to get bumpy on this ride.
I think a lot of people are thinking "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Not necessarily so.
You do realize that the images and videos they are showing you on MSM are proven to be fake
This. Remember you’re watching a movie. Anything that looks anti Russian is staged/cgi.
In these clips I see Russian soldiers showing a lot of restraint. No idea what happened in the van incident. Who know what lead to that shooting. If this is the most outrageous video clips you can find during an armed conflict, I would say very mild.
I agree about ignoring all media. I've stayed away from it since the election was stolen and the dementia patient was put in place. I have not taken a side in this. I feel bad for the people in harm's way. The innocent ones. Every country has 99% of good people. The <1% are the scum whether oligarchs, 'leaders' , tyrants or other.
Consider also all the millions of innocents you aren't aware of, and those who will be harmed in the future... by these people.
I support the general population of Ukraine, Not it's corrupt government who put these people in this position.
Just like China, so is the Ukraine. The Chinese people as a whole are just regular, good folk, as the people of Ukraine are regular, good folk. Both have shit, oppressive regimes in place.
Take a cue from Q, what if Trump were working with Putin and Xi? I can't find the post to reference, but it's an actual post.
Aside from that, look at all the BS narrative MSM is cramming down our throats. Don't have to believe Putin is a white hat, but he's definitely not as the world is insinuating.
NSFW
It is now apparent that there is a Ukrainian policy of shooting civilians trying to leave cities. Footage comes from Mariupol where a husband and wife come upon a massacre at a Ukrainian checkpoint. Woman was also killed.
https://greatawakening.win/p/142ArWciaW/x/c/
On this GAW earlier (I don't have the link), a Kiev resident is talking about Zelensky giving guns to everybody, and most of them are in the hands of gangsters, who are going on shooting sprees (gang warfare for dominance).
At least some of the pictures of atrocities look like gang violence than military (like the Van of people and dogs shot up). Just a guess...
Edit: https://greatawakening.win/p/142Ampw6Y5/ukraine-arming-criminals-and-inc/c/
https://www.youtube.com/c/CoachRedPill
Follow this guy on yt before he's taken down. American in Ukr. He was just kicked out of his Kiev hotel and doxed as a Russian mouthpiece (when he is NOT) because he simply is reporting exactly what he is experiencing.
https://files.catbox.moe/3ck82g.mp4
To be clear: this is not a good guy/bad guy equation.
That is how the Controllers want to present it, so they can control it.
Information coming from the battlefield is not to be trusted without ample verification — Russia puts out propaganda too.
But certain facts are unavoidable. The Maidan massacre and coup, the deep state pushing Russia’s Red line to provoke war, the peace treaties - Minsk 1&2 ignored. The facts Putin has laid out are correct. His actions may not be justified but they are understandable.
The full court press lockstep narrative that Putin is “invading” and Ukraine is the victim is false. The West pushes this to avoid scrutiny and culpability.
Putin’s legal standing, however, would only be justified if he can show imminent danger — like Colin Powell at the UN with a vial of ‘yellow cake’ — except with real evidence. Because only the US can get away with lying their way into war.
But Putin identified biological labs as an urgent threat in 2017. As Gates, Fauci and every news outlet has been warning of a “new pandemic,” anons speculate that the labs in Ukraine, perhaps the Lugar Center in Kiev, may be the next Wuhan.
Putin recognizing Donetsk and Luhansk is essentially what Minsk calls for — an agreement negotiated by France and Germany and signed in to by the US. We have had every opportunity since 2015 to assure peace though helping Ukraine abide by the terms of these mutual agreements.
The fact is the criminal cabal who have been using Ukraine as a piggy bank and ‘black site’ do not want peace or be restrained by the rule of law. So any “cheerleading’ for Putin is recognizing he is targeting the same criminal enterprise that we are.
The fog of war blinds us all, but keep in mind that there are clear realities beneath the fog.
I think we need to remember even the anons and pedes here aren't perfect, let alone major players that have huge battles going on. There are also unknown events that we need to consider, like a history of persecution in their past they are responding from. It's good not to idolize people, better to rejoice in good things happening. The more significant the issue, the bigger the battle will occur, and more casualties from that. We need more than easy wins and trivial feel good moments to make lasting change. This isn't for everyone.
You are right: we don't know. Unless you have personal connections and knowledge, we rely on 3rd party hearsay. The really fake stuff is easy to dismiss, but it provides cover for other fake stuff to slip by.