American patriot here. Moved my family from America to Russia just before C19 (noticed that the vaccine regime rhetoric seemed to be getting dangerous) and haven't regretted it a single day.
I am in a smaller urban setting in the Moscow oblast (province). Crime is way, way lower than I'm used to in America. My impression is that it's mostly theft.
Everybody I've talked to who knows both cultures has agreed with this summary: Americans are softer on the outside and harder on the inside, Russians are harder on the outside and softer on the inside.
The "standard of living" is certainly lower here, but the minimum amount you need to live is way, way lower. There's government support, but also less social expectations, more cultural freedom to improvise, and better quality for the cheapest food and goods. People have each others' backs in some important ways (see also the crime question).
I have thought about this as well. I'm gay, but except for this comment, you wouldn't know it. My husband and I keep to ourselves, despise "LGBT" community folk, and don't really talk about stuff like that anyways. I've read in the past that someone like me could be arrested in Russia, but I have a feeling that is just overblown western propaganda. Could you give me your thoughts on the social climate in Russia?
I'm traditional-minded, a Russian Orthodox Christian, for context.
But my impression is that people who mind their own business are left alone, and a lot of the arrests and persecution you see are Soros and CIA people, or people who have listened to them, stirring things up. That's not how Russians handle things in their culture, so for the Russian authorities basically everybody yelling at a protest is a glowie and it's best to get them out of everybody's hair immediately.
Doesn't sound like that's you. But if you were to visit Russia I'd suggest staying in Moscow.
How are you posting on this site if you are in Russia?
Where in Russia are you located? General region no street address.
Was it hard to do? Costs?
I have looked at the land offerings in the east and I would love to do that. But I am a bit older and have kids. Not sure what my question is but you are over there. Do you know about it and is it as good as it seems?
Russia is far, far freer than the United States. There are a few sites that are blocked, and they're open about that fact, which makes it look like they're this big bad censorship regime, but if you want the part of the Internet the deep state isn't directly operating, you can get it as long as they'll serve it to you. GAW will serve it to me, there's nothing here that Russia feels it needs to guard against, so it's open.
I'm in the Moscow oblast (province) in a smaller urban area, not Moscow. We have several children, so yes it was hard to move, but we all are so glad we did.
Costs are much lower, and outside the cities they are much much much lower.
I would definitely recommend starting in a place with some amenities to adjust before diving into a super-rural landowner situation.
I'm posting things on Telegram, sounds like you might be interested in getting news from a perspective like mine... https://t.me/anoshanews
Full respect for staying. I have several children and it was already so nuts that I needed to take some action so they could have a childhood. It worked, thank God.
I don't know about golf courses.
Yes, you can hunt for food.
Income and property taxes are both saner here, particularly property taxes are way better. People are shocked when we tell them about the property tax situation in America. Property is also much less leveraged. Less debt.
Yes, there are ways to get land. At least in the past there were even grants to try to attract foreigners to the less-populated areas. I'm not sure what's happening with all that, haven't heard about it since covid, but I haven't been looking at that topic.
American patriot here. Moved my family from America to Russia just before C19 (noticed that the vaccine regime rhetoric seemed to be getting dangerous) and haven't regretted it a single day.
Interesting. Any more info you care to provide ? Not a very common response.
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Thanks for the opportunity to learn more. How do you earn your living?
I'm a software developer, currently my main client is an American business.
What situation are you in? If urban, do you find high crime rates? Are people warm and friendly or more "cold" socially?
I know wages are lower, but do most people struggle more than in the US financially, is it similar, or less?
I am in a smaller urban setting in the Moscow oblast (province). Crime is way, way lower than I'm used to in America. My impression is that it's mostly theft.
Everybody I've talked to who knows both cultures has agreed with this summary: Americans are softer on the outside and harder on the inside, Russians are harder on the outside and softer on the inside.
The "standard of living" is certainly lower here, but the minimum amount you need to live is way, way lower. There's government support, but also less social expectations, more cultural freedom to improvise, and better quality for the cheapest food and goods. People have each others' backs in some important ways (see also the crime question).
I have thought about this as well. I'm gay, but except for this comment, you wouldn't know it. My husband and I keep to ourselves, despise "LGBT" community folk, and don't really talk about stuff like that anyways. I've read in the past that someone like me could be arrested in Russia, but I have a feeling that is just overblown western propaganda. Could you give me your thoughts on the social climate in Russia?
I'm traditional-minded, a Russian Orthodox Christian, for context.
But my impression is that people who mind their own business are left alone, and a lot of the arrests and persecution you see are Soros and CIA people, or people who have listened to them, stirring things up. That's not how Russians handle things in their culture, so for the Russian authorities basically everybody yelling at a protest is a glowie and it's best to get them out of everybody's hair immediately.
Doesn't sound like that's you. But if you were to visit Russia I'd suggest staying in Moscow.
How are you posting on this site if you are in Russia? Where in Russia are you located? General region no street address. Was it hard to do? Costs?
I have looked at the land offerings in the east and I would love to do that. But I am a bit older and have kids. Not sure what my question is but you are over there. Do you know about it and is it as good as it seems?
Russia is far, far freer than the United States. There are a few sites that are blocked, and they're open about that fact, which makes it look like they're this big bad censorship regime, but if you want the part of the Internet the deep state isn't directly operating, you can get it as long as they'll serve it to you. GAW will serve it to me, there's nothing here that Russia feels it needs to guard against, so it's open.
I'm in the Moscow oblast (province) in a smaller urban area, not Moscow. We have several children, so yes it was hard to move, but we all are so glad we did.
Costs are much lower, and outside the cities they are much much much lower.
I would definitely recommend starting in a place with some amenities to adjust before diving into a super-rural landowner situation.
I'm posting things on Telegram, sounds like you might be interested in getting news from a perspective like mine... https://t.me/anoshanews
How are the golf courses? Would I be allowed to hunt for food? Income taxes? Property taxes? Can you buy tracts of land in the wilderness?
Sounds good but I am an American and my fight takes place here. I am not running.
Full respect for staying. I have several children and it was already so nuts that I needed to take some action so they could have a childhood. It worked, thank God.
I don't know about golf courses.
Yes, you can hunt for food.
Income and property taxes are both saner here, particularly property taxes are way better. People are shocked when we tell them about the property tax situation in America. Property is also much less leveraged. Less debt.
Yes, there are ways to get land. At least in the past there were even grants to try to attract foreigners to the less-populated areas. I'm not sure what's happening with all that, haven't heard about it since covid, but I haven't been looking at that topic.