BREAKING: There has never been an office or role of "Pope" in the Bible.
It's a power structure to place men between us and God. That ended when Jesus died and the veil in the temple that separated God from us was torn. Jesus is our only mediator.
I love Christ as well. I just happen to also love the original church of Christ that has been at war with Lucifarians, occultists, Communists & Freemasons for centuries.
The church that has now been overrun by the very same enemies of humanity. There is a particular reason why Q mentions Arch Bishop Vigano.
Look up Saint Simon of Trent. The church wasn’t always corrupt. God bless, fren.
The leadership of the church is super corrupt and most of the congregation doesn’t speak out against the child abuse publicly…most probably don’t even admit to themselves it’s happening. They just keep giving the pedos money at offering every week. Seems pretty corrupt as a whole then. Gotta care about Jesus more than you care about your man made and man-lead church
I Was born and raised a Catholic, I just grew jaded with the people running it. Which is the original church of christ at war with luciferians? The Catholic Church?
You mentioned a saint so I tale it that yes you were referring to Catholicism.
Re-write the bible? As if the Catholic church hadn't?
Indulgences, praying to men called Saints instead of God, praying to Mary instead of God, priests called to celibacy when Peter had a wife, the entire concept of purgatory, of a pope -- a human supposedly being the infallible vicar of Christ on earth.
None of that is in the bible.
If you want to say Martin Luther was only a man and nobody special go ahead and do so, because that is the truth. No man is special before God, everyone will be held accountable for their failings.
The Vatican and all its residents with their human trafficking, rape of children, the satanic resurrection statue, the auditorium in a shape of the snake, they aren't going to have any easier time on the day of judgement.
And as far as Q calling out an Archbishop, let me remind you that Trump hugged a gay pride flag. Trump surrounded himself with pastors, not priests. You've read too much into that letter.
I’m aware that Trump married a Catholic. I’m aware that he retweeted Viganos letter during “the BLM summer of love”. In this letter, Vigano calls out the Masons. Jesus’ original church of 2000 years still stands. Meanwhile there are thousands of denominations of Protestantism.
Do you believe that God is the author of confusion?
Which 4,000 denominations of
Protestantism do you belong to?
Do you believe that there are 4000 different ways to get to heaven?
Do you believe that Christianity suddenly began and 1517 and if so,who preserved the Bible and assembled it up to that point?
Do you believe that our Christian society is better off now post reformation & post Masonic “age of enlightenment?”.
Have you ever start to consider that if you are wrong with your interpretation of Christianity you are putting your salvation at stake?
Do you believe that Martin Luther a man that belonged to the secret is Society of the Rosie cross, A man that wanted to remove books from the Bible, A man who ended up marrying a nun, is in heaven?
I don't understand why you are stuck on this kind of checklist-style sectarianism so much. If you have the Holy Spirit within you, you would be able to recognize the work of the Holy Spirit and the presence of God in other people.
I didn't even know what a denomination was until long after I became a Christian. I am happy to read works by Catholics and Protestants alike as long as it is evident that the writer was (is) also a follower of God. It is difficult for people to speak convincingly about spiritual matters in a way that conveys God to other people, so this is not exactly the hardest thing to do.
Why should people have to adhere to a bureaucratic system to be saved? Aren't you underestimating the power, mercy, and divinity of God?
God creates order, certainly, but we also live in a fallen world. Every church has its problems (and has had them, since the days of the apostles), and the Roman Catholic church is no exception. Sectarianism existed back then, too, in the form of the Jews scorning the Greeks and compelling them to get circumcised or they couldn't be Christians.
I read a verse lately that perfectly encapsulates my thoughts on the subject you raised. Mark 9:38-42.
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Your questions about 4,000 denominations misses the point. Ever find it kinda strange that Christ battled the Romans and yet so many accept the Roman Church?
Nobody follows Luther. That's soooo intellectually dishonest and a straw-man fallacy.
He publicly questioned un-Biblical things the Catholic church was doing and helped kick off the Protestant reformation. None of the points he made point back to himself and no one needs to subscribe to all of his beliefs or absolute shortcomings as a man to accept the arguments he made. You argument is like saying we should dismiss the good teachings of MLK cause he cheated on his wife.
Not sure why folks are quick to dismiss 2,000 of Christian civilization & tradition
That's easy.... I'll quote Jesus for the answer: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition"
The Word of God should go before any man-mad tradition or teaching. Full-stop.
Without Luther's action we wouldn't have the 5 sola's
The five solas are five Latin phrases popularized during the Protestant Reformation that emphasized the distinctions between the early Reformers and the Roman Catholic Church. The word sola is the Latin word for “only” and was used in relation to five key teachings that defined the biblical pleas of Protestants. They are:
Sola scriptura: “Scripture alone”
Sola fide: “faith alone”
Sola gratia: “grace alone”
Solo Christo: “Christ alone”
Soli Deo gloria: “to the glory of God alone”
Each of these solas can be seen both as a corrective to the excesses of the Roman Catholic Church at the start of the Reformation and as a positive biblical declaration.
Sola scriptura emphasizes the Bible alone as the source of authority for Christians. By saying, “Scripture alone,” the Reformers rejected both the divine authority of the Roman Catholic Pope and confidence in sacred tradition. Only the Bible was “inspired by God” (2 Peter 1:20-21) and “God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Anything taught by the Pope or in tradition that contradicted the Bible was to be rejected. Sola scriptura also fueled the translation of the Bible into German, French, English, and other languages, and prompted Bible teaching in the common languages of the day, rather than in Latin.
Sola fide emphasizes salvation as a free gift. The Roman Catholic Church of the time emphasized the use of indulgences (donating money) to buy status with God. Good works, including baptism, were seen as required for salvation. Sola fide stated that salvation is a free gift to all who accept it by faith (John 3:16). Salvation is not based on human effort or good deeds (Ephesians 2:9).
Sola gratia emphasizes grace as the reason for our salvation. In other words, salvation comes from what God has done rather than what we do. Ephesians 2:8-9 teaches, “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Solo Christo (sometimes listed as Solus Christus, “through Christ alone”) emphasizes the role of Jesus in salvation. The Roman Catholic tradition had placed church leaders such as priests in the role of intercessor between the laity and God. Reformers emphasized Jesus’ role as our “high priest” who intercedes on our behalf before the Father. Hebrews 4:15 teaches, “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” Jesus is the One who offers access to God, not a human spiritual leader.
Soli Deo gloria emphasizes the glory of God as the goal of life. Rather than striving to please church leaders, keep a list of rules, or guard our own interests, our goal is to glorify the Lord. The idea of soli Deo gloria is found in 1 Corinthians 10:31: “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”
The five solas of the Protestant Reformation offered a strong corrective to the faulty practices and beliefs of the time, and they remain relevant today. We are called to focus on Scripture, accept salvation by grace through faith, magnify Christ, and live for God’s glory.
History doesn’t lie. Christianity, prior to the heretical Reformation movement was a lot more cohesive. There were Catholics & there were Orthodox.
Luther came along & shit the bed. He attempted to remove Seven books of the Bible, all in the Old Testament, are accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but are not accepted by Jews or Protestants. These include 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach, and Wisdom, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. that are not included in the Protestant version of the Old Testament. These books are referred to as the deuterocanonical books. Luther made an attempt to remove the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation from the canon (notably, he perceived them to go against certain Protestant doctrines such as sola gratia and sola fide).
Yes, Luther made his OWN religion. Who was Luther to be an authority on editing the Bible? A man that belonged the the Rosicrucian secret society. A man that has lead millions of souls to hell, including himself, in my opinion.
This is MY opinion. There are millions of opinions out there… if you get all bent out of shape because of MY opinion, perhaps your faith isn’t as strong as you think it is.
History doesn't lie as one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. Could you say it again please?
And then tell me about the indulgences the Catholic church was selling at the time of the Reformation. You know licenses to go send and show me where that is in Scripture.
You're basically taking the position that God is a powerful enough to convey his word throughout history. Your position also ignores much of scripture.
Different shoes like the pope? Are they made out of human flesh as well? It's a tradition right?
You should read Fomenko...russian mathematician...he discovered a thousand year difference in time scale.. we are really only in the middle ages...so much fraud in Bible etc
That's okay, the Freemason secular media HATES Catholicism...no wonder most people are highly confused and lied to about the Catholic religion. Even Islam understands Freemason's #1 enemy is Catholicism. Helena Blavatsky HATED the Jesuits.
All you've got is a ludicrous misrepresentation of "On this rock I will build my church" which is classic proof-texting.
I'm well versed in Church history. I should be, on of my pastors is Dr James White. Maybe you should watch some of his debates against your top Catholic apologists. They're on youtube.
BREAKING: There has never been an office or role of "Pope" in the Bible.
It's a power structure to place men between us and God. That ended when Jesus died and the veil in the temple that separated God from us was torn. Jesus is our only mediator.
Did Christianity suddenly begin in 1517?
Did you know that Martin Luther was a Christian Kabbalist, alchemist, and member of the Rosicrucian Order? It’s even in his coat of arms.
Not sure why folks are quick to dismiss 2,000 of Christian civilization & tradition to follow a man who wanted to re-write the Bible.
I just love christ. No church or denomination for me.
I love Christ as well. I just happen to also love the original church of Christ that has been at war with Lucifarians, occultists, Communists & Freemasons for centuries. The church that has now been overrun by the very same enemies of humanity. There is a particular reason why Q mentions Arch Bishop Vigano.
Look up Saint Simon of Trent. The church wasn’t always corrupt. God bless, fren.
The leadership of the church is super corrupt and most of the congregation doesn’t speak out against the child abuse publicly…most probably don’t even admit to themselves it’s happening. They just keep giving the pedos money at offering every week. Seems pretty corrupt as a whole then. Gotta care about Jesus more than you care about your man made and man-lead church
I Was born and raised a Catholic, I just grew jaded with the people running it. Which is the original church of christ at war with luciferians? The Catholic Church?
You mentioned a saint so I tale it that yes you were referring to Catholicism.
What’s the Q drop where Vigano is mentioned?
This pope is actually an improvement over what they were doing from 1000 to 1800 AD. Are you people really this clueless?
The Catholic church is the one true religion started by Jesus Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/c/CatholicBryan
Please reconsider!
Re-write the bible? As if the Catholic church hadn't?
Indulgences, praying to men called Saints instead of God, praying to Mary instead of God, priests called to celibacy when Peter had a wife, the entire concept of purgatory, of a pope -- a human supposedly being the infallible vicar of Christ on earth.
None of that is in the bible.
If you want to say Martin Luther was only a man and nobody special go ahead and do so, because that is the truth. No man is special before God, everyone will be held accountable for their failings.
The Vatican and all its residents with their human trafficking, rape of children, the satanic resurrection statue, the auditorium in a shape of the snake, they aren't going to have any easier time on the day of judgement.
And as far as Q calling out an Archbishop, let me remind you that Trump hugged a gay pride flag. Trump surrounded himself with pastors, not priests. You've read too much into that letter.
I’m aware that Trump married a Catholic. I’m aware that he retweeted Viganos letter during “the BLM summer of love”. In this letter, Vigano calls out the Masons. Jesus’ original church of 2000 years still stands. Meanwhile there are thousands of denominations of Protestantism.
Do you believe that God is the author of confusion?
Which 4,000 denominations of
Protestantism do you belong to?
Do you believe that there are 4000 different ways to get to heaven?
Do you believe that Christianity suddenly began and 1517 and if so,who preserved the Bible and assembled it up to that point?
Do you believe that our Christian society is better off now post reformation & post Masonic “age of enlightenment?”.
Have you ever start to consider that if you are wrong with your interpretation of Christianity you are putting your salvation at stake?
Do you believe that Martin Luther a man that belonged to the secret is Society of the Rosie cross, A man that wanted to remove books from the Bible, A man who ended up marrying a nun, is in heaven?
I don't understand why you are stuck on this kind of checklist-style sectarianism so much. If you have the Holy Spirit within you, you would be able to recognize the work of the Holy Spirit and the presence of God in other people.
I didn't even know what a denomination was until long after I became a Christian. I am happy to read works by Catholics and Protestants alike as long as it is evident that the writer was (is) also a follower of God. It is difficult for people to speak convincingly about spiritual matters in a way that conveys God to other people, so this is not exactly the hardest thing to do.
Why should people have to adhere to a bureaucratic system to be saved? Aren't you underestimating the power, mercy, and divinity of God?
God creates order, certainly, but we also live in a fallen world. Every church has its problems (and has had them, since the days of the apostles), and the Roman Catholic church is no exception. Sectarianism existed back then, too, in the form of the Jews scorning the Greeks and compelling them to get circumcised or they couldn't be Christians.
I read a verse lately that perfectly encapsulates my thoughts on the subject you raised. Mark 9:38-42.
I believe the Protestant denominations in the World Council of Churches have reunited with the Roman Catholic Church behind the scenes.
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Your questions about 4,000 denominations misses the point. Ever find it kinda strange that Christ battled the Romans and yet so many accept the Roman Church?
Nobody follows Luther. That's soooo intellectually dishonest and a straw-man fallacy.
He publicly questioned un-Biblical things the Catholic church was doing and helped kick off the Protestant reformation. None of the points he made point back to himself and no one needs to subscribe to all of his beliefs or absolute shortcomings as a man to accept the arguments he made. You argument is like saying we should dismiss the good teachings of MLK cause he cheated on his wife.
That's easy.... I'll quote Jesus for the answer: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition"
The Word of God should go before any man-mad tradition or teaching. Full-stop.
Without Luther's action we wouldn't have the 5 sola's
The five solas are five Latin phrases popularized during the Protestant Reformation that emphasized the distinctions between the early Reformers and the Roman Catholic Church. The word sola is the Latin word for “only” and was used in relation to five key teachings that defined the biblical pleas of Protestants. They are:
Each of these solas can be seen both as a corrective to the excesses of the Roman Catholic Church at the start of the Reformation and as a positive biblical declaration.
Sola scriptura emphasizes the Bible alone as the source of authority for Christians. By saying, “Scripture alone,” the Reformers rejected both the divine authority of the Roman Catholic Pope and confidence in sacred tradition. Only the Bible was “inspired by God” (2 Peter 1:20-21) and “God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Anything taught by the Pope or in tradition that contradicted the Bible was to be rejected. Sola scriptura also fueled the translation of the Bible into German, French, English, and other languages, and prompted Bible teaching in the common languages of the day, rather than in Latin.
Sola fide emphasizes salvation as a free gift. The Roman Catholic Church of the time emphasized the use of indulgences (donating money) to buy status with God. Good works, including baptism, were seen as required for salvation. Sola fide stated that salvation is a free gift to all who accept it by faith (John 3:16). Salvation is not based on human effort or good deeds (Ephesians 2:9).
Sola gratia emphasizes grace as the reason for our salvation. In other words, salvation comes from what God has done rather than what we do. Ephesians 2:8-9 teaches, “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Solo Christo (sometimes listed as Solus Christus, “through Christ alone”) emphasizes the role of Jesus in salvation. The Roman Catholic tradition had placed church leaders such as priests in the role of intercessor between the laity and God. Reformers emphasized Jesus’ role as our “high priest” who intercedes on our behalf before the Father. Hebrews 4:15 teaches, “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” Jesus is the One who offers access to God, not a human spiritual leader.
Soli Deo gloria emphasizes the glory of God as the goal of life. Rather than striving to please church leaders, keep a list of rules, or guard our own interests, our goal is to glorify the Lord. The idea of soli Deo gloria is found in 1 Corinthians 10:31: “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”
The five solas of the Protestant Reformation offered a strong corrective to the faulty practices and beliefs of the time, and they remain relevant today. We are called to focus on Scripture, accept salvation by grace through faith, magnify Christ, and live for God’s glory.
History doesn’t lie. Christianity, prior to the heretical Reformation movement was a lot more cohesive. There were Catholics & there were Orthodox.
Luther came along & shit the bed. He attempted to remove Seven books of the Bible, all in the Old Testament, are accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but are not accepted by Jews or Protestants. These include 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach, and Wisdom, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. that are not included in the Protestant version of the Old Testament. These books are referred to as the deuterocanonical books. Luther made an attempt to remove the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation from the canon (notably, he perceived them to go against certain Protestant doctrines such as sola gratia and sola fide). Yes, Luther made his OWN religion. Who was Luther to be an authority on editing the Bible? A man that belonged the the Rosicrucian secret society. A man that has lead millions of souls to hell, including himself, in my opinion.
This is MY opinion. There are millions of opinions out there… if you get all bent out of shape because of MY opinion, perhaps your faith isn’t as strong as you think it is.
History doesn't lie as one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. Could you say it again please?
And then tell me about the indulgences the Catholic church was selling at the time of the Reformation. You know licenses to go send and show me where that is in Scripture.
You're basically taking the position that God is a powerful enough to convey his word throughout history. Your position also ignores much of scripture.
Different shoes like the pope? Are they made out of human flesh as well? It's a tradition right?
Based.
You should read Fomenko...russian mathematician...he discovered a thousand year difference in time scale.. we are really only in the middle ages...so much fraud in Bible etc
Exactly. Catholicism is all about power and wealth.
No man is anywhere ‘closer’ to God than any other man.
We are all made in His image.
Catholicism is all evil.
The USA was founded in JudeoChristian beliefs. Without Jesus (a Jew) there would be no Christianity.
Church is not a holy place; it’s mean to be a fellowship where everyone conversed, not just a bible thinking pastor preaching to the crowd.
It’s called the Holy Roman Empire for a reason.
oof! Someone doesn't know their history!
That's okay, the Freemason secular media HATES Catholicism...no wonder most people are highly confused and lied to about the Catholic religion. Even Islam understands Freemason's #1 enemy is Catholicism. Helena Blavatsky HATED the Jesuits.
Hmmm...
https://www.youtube.com/c/CatholicBryan
Bible > Manipulated History & traditions
All you've got is a ludicrous misrepresentation of "On this rock I will build my church" which is classic proof-texting.
I'm well versed in Church history. I should be, on of my pastors is Dr James White. Maybe you should watch some of his debates against your top Catholic apologists. They're on youtube.
I'm familiar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmmI4buTiE
You've been lied to in a big way.
lol go further.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7k614h-28A&list=PLDiRnTTAyp8yrhws7pWSeAgHk1wlTbnvf