What claims has he made that have panned out so poorly that imply he is a larp? I binged a few of his latest talks/interviews and it's not very different from clif_high with the "Khazar alien bug/demons are rogue AI" angle, so I'm kinda wondering what he's done in the past to draw ire from so many.
Other than him plugging his book and the endless "Two More Weeks™" rhetoric, what has he said that sent up huge red flags for you?
In a lot of comments, whenever his name comes up, I see a load of negative comments about him, but I have yet to see a single substantiated reason for the negativity. Just a lot of bad-mouthing and not much else.
You can check my history, I've not brought Savin up in any regard at all thus far, so just know I'm coming from a sincere place of ignorance as to why he is considered to be a larp/grifter.
Lately, it's been clear to me that Simon Parkes and Charlie Ward are either being duped by the bad actors, are intentionally scamming, or the White Hats have curiously turned them into Wimp Los to keep the Black Hats scratching their heads. I still watch their updates, because I listen to everything I can anyways, but I never have nor ever will throw as much as a dime their way, so rest assured I'm not in their camp.
Is Savin just like them, or a different breed?
What are your thoughts?
Have you read The Phantom Tollbooth? He'd be the character known as the idle taskmaster. Back in 2020 I bought his $10 e-book "kid by the side of the road." It was not horrible, but it was kind of like reading a stream-of-consciousness pleasant and plausible conspiracy narrative, but virtually nothing in terms of verifiable facts. At the time he strongly implied that he was JFK, Jr, although I don't think his interviews imply that anymore. Just based on the book, I counted him as a grifter and resolved to be more careful with my money, even though it was only a $10 mistake. Other folks have id'd him as a person with a past history of grifting.
I fell for the print book - 25 bucks or so. Total waste of money. He was strongly pushing the JFK story at the time. I knew as soon as I read it, that he was not JFK. JFK has better things to do than collect - and then eat- jam made for Trump and visit graveyards.
Plus he shows off his cars and boots like he is something special and rambles for hours while saying nothing. Not worth my time.
"rambles for hours while saying nothing." I believe this is his primary role as a plant. Waste our time and gain money while doing it
All his "ramblings" always have a point. Whether the point is valid or not is a different question, but the way he makes those points is by providing full context through what you call "ramblings".
I don't have time to focus on spreading actual happenings and exposures, and also sift through that. I have had some enjoyable times listening to him back when he was chatting with Roseanne Barr about the Bible, but I'm gonna stand on my take that he is ultimately a time-wasting grifter. IMO
Savin, aka Wayne Ronald Willot, rode the JFK Jr angle several years ago promoted by Field McConnell - who was also involved with the fraud Timothy Holmseth. Holmseth put forward the Pentagon Pedophile Task Force claiming exclusive insider knowledge and both he and McConnell implied they were in contact with someone close to Trump. Savin never discouraged the connections. He managed to somehow not get caught up with the Children's Crusade fraud. I am not sure whether McConnell was a knowing participant in the fraud or whether he was just dooped, but Holmseth has quite the criminal history.
Beyond telling some interesting stories, Savin brings nothing of substance. He makes cryptic statements that imply connectivity for those wanting to hear certain narratives. The listener is then left to make their own links while he can claim innocence about not making direct statements. I will give him this - he is very good at manipulating his fans.
As far as Ward and Parkes. Parkes was involved with his Connected Consciousness deal years before the Patriot movement was even a thing. I think he just ended up being sucked in by Ward and company seeing an opportunity to promote his own agenda. Ward however, is just plain grifter and a fraud.
Unfortunately, there are many grifters within the Patriot and truther movement. Any time people and their money are quickly parted, these types will not miss an opportunity to oblige people handing over their hard earned resources. They also manipulate social media to create the illusion of followers thereby getting their content more widely circulated. Q warned us to be careful about who we follow. Freedom of the flow of information comes with responsibility. Handle with care.
Thanks for the background info. I dismissed savin when he never had anything of substance to add and all this dates and predictions are always wrong.
lol, a lot of people claim this as fact based on one butt hurt youtuber who kept spreading it on and one.
When it comes to Holmseth, you have to make up your mind by reading his stuff yourself. Dont let anyone tell you he is a fraud, because honestly your own instinct needs to tell you whats true.
Personally, I believe Holmseth is the real deal.
Well, you could start by him parading around "that dress" on stage like it was gifted to him from Melania. It was a copy, with a different hemline.
Speaking for myself, intuition.
two words. neurolinguistic programming.
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When I was following a whole bunch of people before Jan 20th, Juan O Savin was the only one who told us that Trump will not be inaugurated that day, at least officially. Every one else assumed the curtains were going to come up on that day.
To me this is powerful. It tells me that he has insights that most other patriot channels don't have. However, he had claimed that by Apr 1st 2021, Trump will be reinstated. This caused many people to assume that he was a larper.
To me, it just means that even the intel he is getting is not anywhere near to 100%, but its also not something to be brushed off.
I consider him much different than the kinds of Simon Parkes and Charlie Ward etc. I do make it a point to listen to his videos, but I wont accept anything he says at face value. I look for the insights provided by him and try to fit the puzzle pieces myself.