Here is the thread I found this on https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/378598168
What a coincidence. This man built a engine that ran on water and he happened to get killed in the Buffalo shooting. Here is proof of his engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAFQdYYXyls
It's entirely possible this was a conspiracy murder by the oil companies to assassinate the inventor that would make their product obsolete and bankrupt them, disguised as a white supremacist attack. A similar thing happened to Stanley Myer, the feds poisoned him because he made a car run on water.
A few weeks ago I discovered this video https://youtu.be/1xHQWu2ZzPc A man put a lawnmower carburetor on his old car that had a V8 in it and got 45mpg after tuning it. I wonder if the feds will come after this guy too. He has not made a video in weeks.
It's not a fuel cell (which produces electricity). He was cracking water into its components, presumably using alternating current at a particular frequency resonant with water, or perhaps a pair of frequencies to address the asymmetric rotor property of water molecules. Maybe there is a catalyst involved? I obviously do not know the secret but it will be something like that.
In theory this is an extremely simple and reliable process, once you have the right energy level and frequencies dialled in, and catalyst coated electrodes perhaps... The water would simply begin gassing-off oxygen and hydrogen, which can be immediately burned.
Normally of course, to crack water with brute force energy, you would be using more energy than you could recover by then recombining them in an exothermic reaction (combustion). Low energy cracking water is the holy grail, conventionally this is impossible, but with resonance, maybe maybe it could be done.
Right, get your perpetual motion machine right here.
Getting more energy out of water than you have to put into crack it?
Entropy has been canceled. Mark this day.
Side thought - I've always wondered if Life reverses entropy. Takes energy and molecular components to bring more order from disorder. Think of how plants grow.
Life reduces entropy locally at the cost of increasing it overall faster.
Plants grow on the energy from the sun. It only temporarily slows entropy.
It's like water going downhill. You can use a dam to extract some useful energy, but all the water still ends up at the bottom of the hill. And whatever you created with that trapped energy is subject to entropy too.
However, there are clues that there is funky quantum stuff involved with life, so all bets are off as to what is really going on.
I have thought that too. You could almost define a living organism as one which reverses the second law and creates its own order
no, because every living thing must consume to survive. In your example, plants take nutrients that come from decaying bio material in the soil. Life temporarily resists entropy.
One method of producing hydrogen without electrolysis is to react water with aluminum. The problem is that aluminum forms a passivation layer of an oxide, similar to rust, but it stays on the surface and stops aluminum underneath that passivation layer from reacting.
One method of stopping that passivation layer from being created is to make an alloy of gallium and aluminum. Aluminum reacts with water and gets used up, but most of your gallium drops out and can be reused. You are essentially burning aluminum in water and burning hydrogen in the tank.
I don't know the economics of a setup large enough to run a car or how many cycles you can run before needing more gallium, but it is a new and different idea than I have seen in the past.
Still, how much energy to purify aluminum? There is a lot of energy stored in pure aluminum. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium%E2%80%93air_battery
If they could get it to work, it'd be safer than lithium or gallium. But these are battery techniques, not fuel.
"They" can worry about pure aluminum. I would build something that uses aluminum in whatever form I can get my hands on easily.
Yes I've seen this lauded as a wondrous method, but of course aluminium is an energy intensive metal to produce... so its net negative. Maybe for recycling it, but you'd be better off just making ingots for remanufacture and forgoing the creation of virgin aluminium, thereby saving energy.
If I were to try it i would use the gallium I bought years ago from ebay or Amazon and use whatever aluminum I could find as scrap. It is everywhere in our world.
Get your red herring right here.
All perpetual motion machine red herrings aside, the hydrogen fuel cell is 'a thing'. And so is the Hendershot Generator if you'd care to watch it being built and demonstrated in various examples on Youtube.
Bringing up the "Perpetual motion machine' argument where it doesn't belong, is the scientific version of 'conspiracy theorist' in discussions of energy conversion.
Q mentions how 'new' tech will be finally brought out to aid in recovery.
Mark this day.
Hydrogen fuel cells have been a thing since the 60s. I built one as a science project using bits & pieces kindly donated by John Deere researchers. That is, if you are referring to the cells that catalyze H2 and O2 into water and directly generate electricity.
Henderson generator is not related to engines running on water/hydrogen, except as a possible source for power to separate the water to H2 and 02.
If Henderson generators work, just plug them to an electric motor, it's a more efficient transmission of energy than burning H2 and 02 in a combustion engine.
Energy conversion is subject to entropy, thus perpetual motion discussion is relevant. Hiding the power source by talking about "running on water" is carnival level distraction.
Exactly. The jet turbine engine is over unity as well. They tell us in every movie. "We're running on fumes up here!" Yes, yes they are.
The second law is the most amoral, pessimistic formulation in the history of human thought. It's expressed in english, not math. That should be the first tip.
Is this what they're doing in 'nuclear' power plants maybe?
Water such a cool molecule. Pull its elements apart and you get fire. Put them together and you get water. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was some easy conversion method right under our noses.
If anyone does figure this out again, they should make sure to release a video showing how anyone can build one ont heir own and release it everywhere. This is the only way to keep a tech like this alive and bring it to the light.