We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That provision has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition” and “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.” Washington v. Glucksberg, 521 U. S. 702, 721 (1997)
Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences.
And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.
It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives. “The permissibility of abortion, and the limitations, upon it, are to be resolved like most important questions in our democracy: by citizens trying to persuade one another and then voting.” Casey, 505 U. S., at 979 (Scalia, J.). That is what the Constitution and the rule of law demand.
Constitutional analysis must begin with “the language of the instrument,” Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1, 186–189 (1824), which offers a “fixed standard” for ascertaining what our founding document means. The Constitution makes no express reference to a right to obtain an abortion, and therefore those who claim that it protects such a right must show that the right is somehow implicit in the constitutional text.
Roe, however, was remarkably loose in its treatment of the constitutional text. It held that the abortion right, which is not mentioned in the Constitution, is part of a right to privacy, which is also not mentioned. And that privacy right, Roe observed, had been found to spring from no fewer than five different constitutional provisions—the First, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments.
Roe expressed the “feeling” that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance.
In deciding whether a right falls into either of these categories, the Court has long asked whether the right is “deeply rooted in [our] history and tradition” and whether it is essential to our Nation’s “scheme of ordered liberty.”
As Lincoln once said: “We all declare for Liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing.”
In interpreting what is meant by the Fourteenth Amendment’s reference to “liberty,” we must guard against the natural human tendency to confuse what that Amendment protects with our own ardent views about the liberty that Americans should enjoy. That is why the Court has long been “reluctant” to recognize rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution. Collins v. Harker Heights
As the Court cautioned in Glucksberg, “we must . . . exercise the utmost care whenever we are asked to break new ground in this field, lest the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause be subtly transformed into the policy preferences of the Members of this Court.”
The Court must not fall prey to such an unprincipled approach. Instead, guided by the history and tradition that map the essential components of our Nation’s concept of ordered liberty, we must ask what the Fourteenth Amendment means by the term “liberty.”
When we engage in that inquiry in the present case, the clear answer is that the Fourteenth Amendment does not protect the right to an abortion.
Moreover, we are aware of no common-law case or authority, and the parties have not pointed to any, that remotely suggests a positive right to procure an abortion at any stage of pregnancy.
The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions. On the contrary, an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment persisted from the earliest days of the common law until 1973. The Court in Roe could have said of abortion exactly what Glucksberg said of assisted suicide: “Attitudes toward [abortion] have changed since Bracton, but our laws have consistently condemned, and continue to prohibit, [that practice].”
but they have found no support for the existence of an abortion right that predates the latter part of the 20th century—no state constitutional provision, no statute, no judicial decision, no learned treatise. The earliest sources called to our attention are a few district court and state court decisions decided shortly before Roe and a small number of law review articles from the same time period.
Roe termed this a right to privacy, and Casey described it as the freedom to make “intimate and personal choices” that are “central to personal dignity and autonomy,” Casey elaborated: “At the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.”
These attempts to justify abortion through appeals to a broader right to autonomy and to define one’s “concept of existence” prove too much. Casey, 505 U. S., at 851. Those criteria, at a high level of generality, could license fundamental rights to illicit drug use, prostitution, and the like.
But despite the dissent’s professed fidelity to stare decisis, it fails to seriously engage with that important precedent—which it cannot possibly satisfy.
But as the Court has reiterated time and time again, adherence to precedent is not “‘an inexorable command.’” Kimble v. Marvel Entertainment, LLC, 576 U. S. 446, 455 (2015). There are occasions when past decisions should be overruled, and as we will explain, this is one of them.
Our opinion is not based on any view about if and when prenatal life is entitled to any of the rights enjoyed after birth. The dissent, by contrast, would impose on the people a particular theory about when the rights of personhood begin. According to the dissent, the Constitution requires the States to regard a fetus as lacking even the most basic human right—to live—at least until an arbitrary point in a pregnancy has passed.
In this case, five factors weigh strongly in favor of overruling Roe and Casey: the nature of their error, the quality of their reasoning, the “workability” of the rules they imposed on the country, their disruptive effect on other areas of the law, and the absence of concrete reliance.
Roe was on a collision course with the Constitution from the day it was decided, Casey perpetuated its errors, and those errors do not concern some arcane corner of the law of little importance to the American people.
Rather, wielding nothing but “raw judicial power,” the Court usurped the power to address a question of profound moral and social importance that the Constitution unequivocally leaves for the people.
The Court short-circuited the democratic process by closing it to the large number of Americans who dissented in any respect from Roe. “Roe fanned into life an issue that has inflamed our national politics in general, and has obscured with its smoke the selection of Justices to this Court in particular, ever since.”
As Justice White later explained, “decisions that find in the Constitution principles or values that cannot fairly be read into that document usurp the people’s authority, for such decisions represent choices that the people have never made and that they cannot disavow through corrective legislation. For this reason, it is essential that this Court maintain the power to restore authority to its proper possessors by correcting constitutional decisions that, on re-consideration, are found to be mistaken.” Thornburgh, 476 U. S., at 787
Roe’s failure even to note the overwhelming consensus of state laws in effect in 1868 is striking, and what it said about the common law was simply wrong... This erroneous understanding appears to have played an important part in the Court’s thinking because the opinion cited “the lenity of the common law” as one of the four factors that informed its decision.
The scheme Roe produced looked like legislation, and the Court provided the sort of explanation that might be expected from a legislative body.
entitled to legal protection until it acquires the characteristics that they regard as defining what it means to be a “person.” Among the characteristics that have been offered as essential attributes of “personhood” are sentience, self-awareness, the ability to reason, or some combination thereof. By this logic, it would be an open question whether even born individuals, including young children or those afflicted with certain developmental or medical conditions, merit protection as “persons.” But even if one takes the view that “personhood” begins when a certain attribute or combination of attributes is acquired, it is very hard to see why viability should mark the point where “personhood” begins.
The most obvious problem with any such argument is that viability is heavily dependent on factors that have nothing to do with the characteristics of a fetus.
The viability line, which Casey termed Roe’s central rule, makes no sense, and it is telling that other countries almost uniformly eschew such a line. The Court thus asserted raw judicial power to impose, as a matter of constitutional law, a uniform viability rule that allowed the States less freedom to regulate abortion than the majority of western democracies enjoy.
Archibald Cox, who served as Solicitor General under President Kennedy, commented that Roe “read[s] like a set of hospital rules and regulations” that “[n]either historian, layman, nor lawyer will be persuaded. . . are part of . . . the Constitution.”
Casey’s “undue burden” test has proved to be unworkable. “Plucked from nowhere,” 505 U. S., at 965 (opinion of Rehnquist, C. J.), it “seems calculated to perpetuate give-it-a-try litigation” before judges assigned an unwieldy and inappropriate task.
The Court’s abortion cases have diluted the strict standard for facial constitutional challenges. They have ignored the Court’s third-party standing doctrine. They have disregarded standard res judicata principles. They have flouted the ordinary rules on the severability of unconstitutional provisions, as well as the rule that statutes should be read where possible to avoid unconstitutionality. And they have distorted First Amendment doctrines.
Our decision returns the issue of abortion to those legislative bodies, and it allows women on both sides of the abortion issue to seek to affect the legislative process by influencing public opinion, lobbying legislators, voting, and running for office. Women are not without electoral or political power.
As Chief Justice Rehnquist explained, “The Judicial Branch derives its legitimacy, not from following public opinion, but from deciding by its best lights whether legislative enactments of the popular branches of Government comport with the Constitution. The doctrine of stare decisis is an adjunct of this duty, and should be no more subject to the vagaries of public opinion than is the basic judicial task.”
A precedent of this Court is subject to the usual principles of stare decisis under which adherence to precedent is the norm but not an inexorable command. If the rule were otherwise, erroneous decisions like Plessy and Lochner would still be the law. That is not how stare decisis operates.
This Court cannot bring about the permanent resolution of a rancorous national controversy simply by dictating a settlement and telling the people to move on.
The dissent’s foundational contention is that the Court should never (or perhaps almost never) overrule an egregiously wrong constitutional precedent unless the Court can “point to major legal or factual changes undermining the decision’s original basis.” The unmistakable implication of this argument is that only the passage of time and new developments justified those decisions. Recognition that the cases they overruled were egregiously wrong on the day they were handed down was not enough.
Does the dissent really maintain that overruling Plessy was not justified until the country had experienced more than a half-century of state-sanctioned segregation and generations of Black schoolchildren had suffered all its effects?
Precedents should be respected, but sometimes the Court errs, and occasionally the Court issues an important decision that is egregiously wrong. When that happens, stare decisis is not a straitjacket.
The concurrence concedes that its approach would “not be available” if “the rationale of Roe and Casey were inextricably entangled with and dependent upon the viability standard.” But the concurrence asserts that the viability line is separable from the constitutional right they recognized, and can therefore be “discarded” without disturbing any past precedent. That is simply incorrect.
Roe’s trimester rule was expressly tied to viability, and viability played a critical role in later abortion decisions. For example, in Planned Parenthood of Central Mo. v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52, the Court reiterated Roe’s rule that a “State may regulate an abortion to protect the life of the fetus and even may prescribe abortion” at “the stage subsequent to viability.”
For all these reasons, stare decisis cannot justify the new “reasonable opportunity” rule propounded by the concurrence. If that rule is to become the law of the land, it must stand on its own, but the concurrence makes no attempt to show that this rule represents a correct interpretation of the Constitution. The concurrence does not claim that the right to a reasonable opportunity to obtain an abortion is “ ‘deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition’” and “ ‘implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.’” Glucksberg, 521 U. S.
The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives. The judgment of the Fifth Circuit is reversed, and the case is remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion. It is so ordered.
Thank you for summarizing. Much easier to share.
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great work anon, thanks!!
Thank you, fren.
Happy to be of assistance.
Thank you for this summary. I tried reading the papers myself but I was having trouble getting past where the science was noted about what constitutes life, when a heartbeat starts and then the describing of the actual procedure of abortion.
Which turns out to be not relevant to the court's finding really.
Good for you for trying.
And the abridged version of that is that the federal government has no jurisdiction.
The only reason he had to write so much was to eviscerate all the nonsense that the previous supreme court had written.
And to insert their own. ...
“Among the characteristics that have been offered as essential attributes of “personhood” are sentience, self-awareness, the ability to reason, or some combination thereof…”
Hell, by that standard, a good 50 percent of the adults in this country (many of them along the so-called liberal-progressive end of the spectrum) could be “spontaneously aborted” at any moment.
Kek.
Imagine how much more carefully words and actions would be chosen if that were the case…Scads of fat, umbrella wielding, violent ANTIFA members spontaneously collapsing into a mass of tissued remnants …
Eww… just grossed out myself…sorry…long weekend…
Praise kek.
Indeed. A person is not the human itdelf, it is the clothes he wears: the mask through which the sound of your voice is heard.
You know what that means? It also means companies cannot be persons.....
Damn, it worse than I thought!
Thank you!
Here is a much easier to digest understanding of what they did:
Abortion was created out of the "penumbra of rights" resulting out of the 14th amendment due process clause and "liberty." Abortion was found to be a liberty as discussed in this context derived from the "right to privacy." This framework is problematic.
The Constitution and Bill of Rights are not the limitation of your rights. They are enumerated rights. But just because a "right" is not enumerated does not mean it is not there. For example: where in the Constitution does it say you have the right to raise your kids? What is to stop the state from coming and taking your kids away and raising them commune style as they did in Sparta? The answer is this exact same "penumbra of rights" framework that gave us abortion.
The founders were federalists, and they won the debate against the anti-federalists. But, the anti federalists did succeed in getting the bill of rights. The federalists thought the bill of rights were unnecessary because the document already incorporated these rights. The anti-federalists enshrined the rights they felt were most in jeopardy by an over powerful tyrannical government. This is not the limitation of your rights; but a special emphasis on defending them from tyranny.
However, the Court, in Roe, disregarded its own formula for the determination of whether something was a fundamental right fitting into the penumbra of rights. They ignored history. Which is a key element of the court's analysis. If there is no historical record of a right being presumed by the people, there can be no incorporation of it through due process and liberty in the 14th amendment. This is one of the main reasons Roe is/was bad law and controversial, aside from the practice it enshrined.
Justice Thomas wants to abolish this framework altogether. He says he doesn't believe there is a basis for it. And I acknowledge the problems with this framework. However, if he does not have a better way of constitutionally protecting our rights that are not enumerated but accept as rights, this is a very dangerous path to go down. And I have never seen him opine on how he would protect basic things like (1) the right to earn a living for yourself (can the state deprive you of a right to work and acquire sustenance for yourself and family? - this isn't enumerated either) (2) right to raise your kids; (3) right to educate your kids....and so on and so on.
The moment we abandon the problematic "penumbra of rights" analysis without an adequate replacement on deck, we are screwed. Write that down before you get excited about throwing out sodomy and contraception bans.
edit: I should say "the founders that won the constitutional debates were federalists."
How about the right to choose your healthcare?
Roe v Wade is not a law but an opinion on law.
Have you read the ruling Roe v Wade? It details the historical background.
The argument is a bullshit argument. If it has not been done before, you right does not exist. Amendment 10 clearly ststes: all rights reserved.
So, both, the system described presumably not used to determine Roe v Wade, as well as the argument to hold these views are based on air.
Another dangerous supposition was floated here.
How about have you read the part of my post you quoted? As long as we are being asshat level condescending, have you read the 9th amendment? Are you aware that the bill of rights is not a limitation on rights? You do realize that we possess more rights than are enumerated in the Constitution, right?
Where the hell do you think you get the right to raise your kids, educate them in a manner you see fit, refuse medical treatment, to run a business, to provide for your family? Is any of that in the Constitution? No. What rights do we retain that are not explicitly enumerated? The answer is a historical analysis.
So if you're gonna come in here all pious, sanctimonious, and asshat, at least have a damn clue what you are talking about.
See my first post.
There is no reason to be emotional and throw around red herrings. It obfuscates the issue.
The choice to know is your.
Enjoy your day.
Red herrings? What specifically did I say that was a red herring? Why does it seem like you think I am arguing for the preservation of Roe? I simply articulated what the court did. And I am correct. They did this. When you ask me if I have read Roe, I question if you ever did. I’ve read that case more times than I can count. And exactly what I said is accurate. If you go down the historical analysis and find no such right to abortion, that should end the inquiry. If you do that, and then find some alternate route to find what is not there by deriving it from some other declared right instead of the historical record, you have done precisely what the court did in Roe. And then I said this is why Roe is/was bad law and controversial. Absolutely zero about what i said was wrong.
That settles it then.
You sure rebutted it. Very substantive argument you just made to show how I am wrong.
This is not about showing you wrong. I showed you why I think the ruling is not something I am all to happy with because of the questions at law, despite the fact I am happy it has been taken away from the FED and put a spike in the wheels of the egregious abuse that has taken place since Roe v Wade.
There were questions that need answering, and the SCOTUS in my view, did not do so. Hence, my elaborate first post in this thread with references.
It then makes no sense to explain further, especially since you are correct, or at least, that is your view.
From a strategic point of view, being bombed with such stealth, would indeed trigger into higher gear the dems into riots and insurgencies and into self-destruction. And that is something I take notice of with glee on the one hand, while being conscious of the fact, they will always target those who are easy prey.
We'll see where it lands.
This was a solid and good legal argument, whether it pertains to abortion or Marijuana or carrying durian fruit on public transit.
Leave it up to the people, it's not an explicit right.
Human rights need not be enumerated as they are contained under reservation.
The Constitution is to keep the government in check.....
Inversion.
Hashtag why not both meme? Lol
IMO, Both Gov and humans need to be checked from time to time. To keep the evil ones from running roughshod over the good ones.
something like? 1.The Constitution is silent on your right to poop in the streets...
2.The Constitution is silent on your right to wear a pussy hat ...
3.The Constitution is silent on your right to cross the border illegally....
4. The Constitution says: your right to keep and bear arms without infringement........but they'll red-flag your anyway ..
You're dead on my friend. It's infuriating.
Instead of red flag laws they should call it by its real name: Political Offender Registry.
You want to own a firearm? Oh, you're an enemy of the state because you disagree with my political worldview. Better put you on a list.
It's all bullshit of the highest order. And it's bad for ya.
Saved, thank you.
Thank you for caring enough to do this. I have been a pro-life activist almost my entire life. So many Christians/conservatives/Patriots who claim to be prolife won’t spend 5 minutes talking about it because the subject causes discomfort. But now it’s important for everyone to face it fully and understand not only the basis for the Dobbs decision, but also the damage abortion has inflicted on us all as individuals, as a society, and as a nation.
Honored to be of any assistance.
When reading this piece I will be outlining below, this is not about your personal held strong beliefs. I have had to deal with abortion twice, and I am not happy with it. In the first case it was about my wife' s helath, in the other, my girlfriend was pregnant, I would liked to have had a child with her, but she was not at that place to have one with me. So, she made a decision, and I was not part of that.
This piece below is about the question at law and how the Constitution is to be appreciated. Again, not personally held beliefs!
The preface to the below expressed views are here: https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3395510/20388893 https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3050236/16928636 https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3375563/20110062
This is something that needs to be clearly stated. Although Roe did initially argue the 14th, that was not what the court then held. It held that any of the liberty amendments, especially no.X is conducive with a personal choice.
Whether or not and when a fetus becomes a person is a matter of personal and philosophical perspective.
The constitution is written to keep the Government in check, not the people. Hence the idea expressed here is totally wrong. It does not matter whether a human right is enumerated. THe amendments were meant to aid in curbing the Government and keeping it within the confines.
Some people will, for whatever reason, never ever agree on an abortion. That is their choice. And with the help of God, the church and their family will go through it and thrive. Others will find that an abortion is something to be had. Who pays for it? The individual, not the people at large via taxation.
See also the 2018 (I think) ruling on the guy who stopped paying income tax until the public money funding for PP had ended. The courts ruled he was within his rights.
No it was not exceptionally weak. It was well researched. On searchvoat.co we have analyzed this and retraced the inquiry: examples:
https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3246672/18885141 https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3065664/17096090
The decision has indeed brought about damaging consequences. But since exceptionally weak is a opinion on a previous ruling, it depends on the reasoning why this has come about. If the previous remark is any guide, it does convey a bad omen on the way the liberty amendments are to be appreciated.
Absolutely true. The Constitution was written to enumerate the powers of the Federal government. The Constitution does not convey or grant rights to the people individually, but outlines the method in which these reserved rights are to be protected!
Amendment X clearly states: all rights reserved if they are not granted to the government. What part of that is not understood? It seems all of it.
I agree. This is a "kicking open an open door" - argument. However, 50% +1 of the people deciding your reserved rights are forfeit is not a correct approach. What would be a correct approach is HOW to facilitate it. Based on the difference in time with regard to medical practice and prowess, there is clearly a development to be expected.
And there it is: ordered liberty. A term that can mean anything. Liberty is not ordered. It is based on virtue. That is a topic totally in the province of the individual not the government.
For the inquiry on deeply rooted ... see the provided links.
Whether liberty is workable or not, is not a question at law. Government could facilitate or not. And every state can do its thing HOW to protect liberty. In this case, based on the then available medical prowess, it could proscribe HOW an abortion is done, not making the decision whether or not such a thing SHOULD be done and whether pubic funds should be attributed to such a private procedure.
The disruptive effect lies in a totally different area, namely the infusion of public money, turning it into an industry coupled to the use of the discarded human matter. However, that consequence is not in the Roe v Wade ruling. That is what private public partnerships have construed (collusion).
By the same token, it could be reasoned that you can bear and carry arms but eh ... only one shot devices due to the disruptive and horrible consequences should more shots be available to any arms carrier.
You could apply this reasoning to the first amendment.
A very dangerous path this reasoning is.
Totally agree with one caveat: it does not leave it to the people as a whole, although you could try and view such based on the language: reserved by the people. But the people cannot retain rights as a collective, but as individuals.
Yes and no. The viability was indeed a matter under review based on the medical prowess of that time. In other posts on this topic, I have already argued that this would present a slippery slope. Viability concerns are a personal medical issue.
I agree that this issue is not a Federal issue but a States issue. While having been a states issue in the past, the question was whether the state could prohibit based on the liberty amendments, especially no: X.
The then court held that the State could only facilitate as the end effect, and the State does not have authority to override a reserved right.
In totality, there are indeed well founded reasons to revert the issue back to the states as it had been for 200 years prior. However, it still leaves the question open: do States have the right by 50% + 1 vote to override individual liberties ....
So, with a lot of blabla, this SCOTUS has totally turned back the clock without giving an answer. It did correct the biggest wrong, though. It corrected the abhorring industry the abortion scene has become.
And from that perspective, this ruling is a win. From the perspective of liberty, this ruling is a loss.
Wait till daddy ( big .gov) is home.
" From the perspective of liberty, this ruling is a loss."
I don't think so. By returning the choice back to the states, Americans have more liberty in deciding this for themselves. Now each individual person in each state can take it upon themselves to run for office or persuade their peers how they see fit in the process of fleshing out the particular nature of abortion and if it really is a right or just a horrific practice of our time.
Akin to say castrating slaves or throwing malformed babies off a cliff. All right's at one point in time but by todays standards, considered atrocities. In 30 years when technology makes abortions obsolete, humanity very well may look back on abortion in the same light and considering 70 million babies died this way, maybe in a much poorer light.
This is a truer embodiment of liberty because it allows each state, each citizen, the liberty to pursue this extremely complicated matter themselves. Instead of having a broad ruling decide it for all. The quote by Lincoln used by the Justices, elucidates it nicely, “We all declare for Liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing.”
They expounded perfectly on the matter and it was actually fairly easy to see how abortion does not fall under the 14th. Restoring the liberty of the states to decide for themselves.
Thank you for your response.
If you wish to maintain what you wrote, that is perfectly fine. However, by placating their reasoning as " expounding perfectly" as a blanket statement is hardly sufficient to address the arguments I used to reasonably find fault.
If you have not read Roe v Wade ruling, it is quite difficult to cut through the bullcrap that is being presented as to what the ruling is.
Had you read carefully, you would have seen that I indeed agree that the issue is not a federal issue, but a state level issue at Max. The question is who will protect an individual from their state when 50%+ 1 can decide what is and what is not your individual liberty. Meet the new boss, same as the old.boss.
And I gave you the reason for this question, which is amendment 10.
And my biggest revulsion against the current ruling is that of the silence of the Constitution on certain enumerable rights. That argument in essence inverts what should be, how it is meant to be. This ruling will bite us in the ass ....
And I am supposed to applaud that? It is a disgrace! As I said, it is not about the joy of derailing the fed funding of planned Parenthood. This is not even in Roe v Wade. It is an outgrowth of the money machine. But of course, too lazy too address the issue before the law.
So no, the ruling is far from excellent, and is as much a distortion as the other one.
Well, see where it lands.