How dare I compare my Diesel powered Peugeot to Greta’s Tesla?
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Every time I see a photo of a lithium dig site, I feel ill and wonder if anyone working or living with in a hundred-mile radius of it are dropping dead from contamination. bleh. Good side by side.
It's pretty bad. This doesn't describe the full scope of coal/oil mining or lithium mining. But it's very clear that lithium mines are pretty shit and destroy a LOT of the environment.
Best thing we can do is propel battery tech beyond lithium.
"Best thing we can do is propel battery tech beyond lithium."
Or develop technologies that bypass batteries altogether.
Companies are trying, like Alsym Energy - no lithium.
I'm not a fan of lithium, but for those who are, Vulkan Energy Resources has a way of extracting it without mining.. Basically like a reverse osmosis process that ties into existing geothermal infrastructure. It's a closed system, no environmental discharges.
They had their shots...it could be worse...
Died of COVID induced lithium toxicity
Yes and post that on facespook and it will get flagged as Misinformation
Full frontal assault on electric vehicles this week. Coordinated?
Still some brainwashed normies over at patriots.win, but surprisingly little aggressive shilling today. I think they are waking up to the fact that not everything as they have been told makes complete sense about electric vehicles and ICE "destroying the planet", but long ways to go yet: https://patriots.win/p/15JTkSJLqU/presenting-the-tesla-towcharge-e/c/
wait till that first 70k miles battery replacement at around 25k dollars.
These activists always take their smear photos in the winter/spring. When the normies see what looks like a muddy battlefield, they start throwing out hashtags like candy at a small town parade.
At least the batteries last 3 years! Then you get a new one for 30k!!
Battery longevity AND battery operation at both superhot and supercold temperatures are issues. This is why Tesla focused on California for rollout because the favorable climate masks the dramatic battery efficiency and "power storage time" drops in more extreme climates.
For anyone that took the vaxx, it is 50/50 probability at this point whether you will outlive your Tesla battery.
My 2015 Tesla MS is still going strong, 105k+ miles.
I love it!!!
u/#howdareyou
I worked full time way up N at one of these sites. One of them describes itself as a "$6B steam plant." They burn natural gas, which is also good for the environment, etc.
Don't forget to add the lithium extraction sites of South America
They'll just show you a picture of an oil spill at sea with animals covered in black goo. None of these tweets are at all a "gotcha' because the people we're trying to "wake up" don't care or want to know the other side.
The sooner you stop trying to make sense of it the better
I don't care, I'm buying the car to go fast.
Now do one for the lithium leach pits.
Would be very interesting to know how many gas/diesel powered vehicles there are on the planet and the repercussions should each & every one of those vehicles be replaced with electric vehicles. would we be living in one giant crater?
This may be the most dishonest thing you see today.
Its more like this at tarsands.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alberta+tarsands&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vancouverobserver.com%2Fsites%2Fvancouverobserver.com%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Farticle%2Fbody%2Fmine-east-suncor_n3g5197_web.jpg
“Tarsands” gives you away.
It’s “oil sands.”
You folks need to up your codeword strategy.
Those are pictures from the older sites. Most of the sites now look like the one in OP since we've found a more efficient and eco friendly way to get the oil from the earth. Look up SAGD.
lithium mining will become a circular economy as 99% of lithium can be recycled from old battery packs. You cannot say that about gas vehicles. Moreover many of the lithium mines are in deserts (Chile). So it's not too bad.
And yet you're saying it's bad.
It's better to have a mine in the desert than in the forest. However the mines in Chile use too much water and since Chile's water has been privatized it's creating many other issues. Any kind of mining is bad. Mining Lithium is no different. What lithium has going for it is the fact that it can be recycled close to 99%. This means that eventually the old batteries will feed the new cars and mining it will be obsolete.
Does the computer you use to post this run on diesel too? Your phone?
The problem with batteries is that they are not a source of energy. You still need energy to generate the electricity to put in them. You could used Diesel for that or, more likely, you could use gas.
Spot the natural gas production going on here. No, not the giant wind turbines but the smaller towers in between.
Diesel isn’t the “source” of energy either. Much like a battery, all hydrocarbon products are simply the storage medium for the source energy—the environmental hydrogen and carbon sequestered in the soil millions of years ago.
The very real, very physical and obvious problem, devoid of politics, is that millions of years worth of carbon safely sequestered underground has been re-released into the atmosphere in just 150 years since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
Enjoy your 100 degree days. This is the new reality. Even God’s own sunshine and wind stored in a battery is not going to save mankind now. We fucked up.
The earth will be fine, and mining scars like that alleged lithium mine in the illustration will heal over the next millions of years. Humans will be replaced by something else.
Environmentalists want to save humanity. The earth always has and always will take care of itself. It’s humans that are fucked.
OK, if you view fossil fuels as batteries then we are already using renewable energy.
CO2 levels used to be 7,000ppm they are now just over 400ppm. We have a lot of catching up to do.
I narly forgot, NASA says we have recently used our "extra" CO2 to green an area equal to twice that of the continental USA. Sounds like an environmental win to me.
Carbon dioxide is FOOD for all plants which generate oxygen for you to breath. How is that a dangerous toxin, again? You are literally advocating killing yourself by actively reducing breathable oxygen without even knowing it.
6CO2 + 6H20 + (energy) → C6H12O6 + 6O2 Carbon dioxide + water + energy from light produces glucose and oxygen.
https://sciencing.com/photosynthesis-equation-6962557.html
Note the proportional drop in Oxygen for EACH reduction in CO2. It is directly proportional 1:1.
Also note that plants increase their absorption of carbon dioxide when it increases. This is why it is pumped into greenhouses to the extent that humans working inside have to wear breathing gear.
Nobody said CO2 is a toxin. It traps heat in the atmosphere. Hence, the rising temperatures.
More plants would be great, but what we actually do is wipe out large areas of the Amazonian basin for strip mining.
So, less plants every day. Your source is called “Sciencing”? Adorable.
You should work harder to hide that you are a paid, troll. Here are your giveaways so you can improve your technique:
Hope that helps. I pulled those from the Disinformation Control section of the Counterinsurgency manual. I believe much of that content is in your CIA manual, if you care to review.
Actually, I just went to university and learned how to craft a thesis in English class.
Like any normally educated person.
So you are saying all humans need to be wiped out? I guess we know who you are working for now, don't we.
What a strange way to understand what is happening to us. What I think needs to be done about anything is of no consequence.
We are wiping ourselves out. We fucked up. We shat where we eat, or more accurately, we farted up millions of years of carbon in 150 years into the place where we breath.
If you are shilling for oil companies profits and tax breaks, we know whose brainwash you fell for.
Yet I've read that we need to expect shortages of carbonated beverages because of a shortage of CO2. Unbelievable.
BTW haven't used up any "millions of years of carbon." First of all, we haven't used it all up, as there is a lot of oil still in the ground. Secondly, you probably think crude oil came from pressed dinosaurs like we were taught in school. If you're smart, go research the elements found in crude oil and the elements found in plants and animals. You will see some glaring mismatches. Oil is created deep in the earth by a natural process. It will never run out. Russian scientists have said so for years.
Tip #5 - Poorly written and lacking real sincerity. Maybe work on your writing skills as well?
"Smart" guy dosent know how oil is made
Indirectly. One could argue, yes. Electricity generation for households in the US is still over ~80% diesel, fuel oil, coal, natural gas from what I recall. And distributed rather than centralized is more efficient as the amount of power needed to "boost" the lines for transmission from one giant centralized plant is reduced.
For nuclear the "boost" is considered net worthwhile over a certain geographic radius due to the inherently low cost of nuclear power production.
Microhydro at the community or even household level is possible as power storage or limited runtime power, but you still need some energy source to pump the water up and some energy is lost in the turbine. Solar and wind used to pump water up is one way to optimize those technologies where they work best which is relatively low cost battery charge or water pumping (which is also really energy storage).