IMO: Russia isn't even using 1/10th of it's military in Ukraine, their best equipment has been conducting war games 2000 miles away. Russia made it clear when they entered Ukraine that they were helping the people of Eastern Ukraine, who legally seceded from Ukraine btw. Nato should be cautious.
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Russia is doing a humanitarian mission. I know a few Ukranian's who hate the zelinsky regime and one said he hopes they take out zelimsky. Just like white people who think they speak for blacks, there are too many people who think they speak for Ukrainians. I've only met non ukranian's flying ukraninan flags in support. The brainwashing to get people to just take on causes because of rhe media is scary.
Humanitarian mission?! You're joking, right?
No I'm not. Ukranians have been killing ethnic Russians simce 2014 at least. Sometkmes just for speaking Russian.
Where did you get that information from?
Russian President Vladimir Putin said recently:
[E]veryone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet.
This is the lead in to why the West is completely missing the point of what the Russians are doing in the Donbass. For instance the BBC recently reported Russian missiles hitting a reservoir dam near the southern Ukrainian city of Kryvyi Rih. It goes on to state -- "Ukraine said the strike was revenge by Russia for its recent counter-attack. This was an apparent reference to Ukraine's recent military successes in a swift counter-offensive in the country's north-eastern Kharkiv region. It has seen Ukraine's army reclaim swathes of occupied territory, forcing Russian troops to retreat. In his speech, Mr Zelensky said the reservoir had "no military value at all".
Zelenski is no military strategist, but a political hack. The Ingulet river, which the dam restrained, flows mainly north to south through Kryvyi Rih (Russian spelling: Krivoi Rog) to then turn southwest before it ends in the Dnieper. On its southwest flowing part it demarcated the border between the Ukrainian and Russian held territory. During the Kherson 'counteroffensive' Ukrainian troops had used pontoon bridges to cross the river and to attack on the southern side. The hopeless attack across bare steppe continued throughout the last days despite huge losses on the Ukrainian side. The hit on the dam was not in 'revenge' but will raise the Ingulet river and speed it up. It will wash away those pontoon bridges. The Ukrainian troops south of the river will be without resupplies and more easy to defeat. Or so the Russian's hope ... With the river now flooding they will be cut off from the northern side. This attack had a clear military value. It is not a 'terrorist' act. Water diversions for military purposes are a standard tactic in larger military operations.
Rivers and water ways are effective defensive barriers. If anyone has noticed, in the Kharkiv-Izium area to the north, the Russian forces moved out of the region because the Ukro-Nazi offensive was known that it was going to happen. The sparcely populated Kharkiv-Izium area was less important to hold than centralizing these Russian forces in the Donetsk area. The objective of the Russian operation was to protect the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts from UkroNazi genocide. The move out of the Kharkiv-Izium area was to avoid unnecessary Russian troop loss. The Russian forces pulled back to the eastern side of the Oskol river and are now protected by it. At the southern end, near Lyman, the Siverski Donets river is used to cover the Russian forces. These are strong positions, hard to attack, that can be held by a limited force. So, the Kharkiv-Izium area was withdrawn similarly to the earlier Kiev campaign was. In fact back in April, the Ukrainian side flooded large areas north of Kiev to stop Russian troops from moving towards the city. This is the same tactic just used by the Russians yesterday when Russian missiles hit a reservoir dam on the Ingulet river. It has effectively left Ukrainian forces stranded and cutoff.
With all of this said, we know in the Kherson region that the landscape is pretty much open steppe geographically. Defending against the Ukrainian offensive campaign there, this is like a turkey shoot for the Russians. And indeed it was. The Ukrainians are purported to have lost over 4000 soldiers. This amounts to more than 2 brigades. What's more, the Kharkiv-Izium offensive in the north is said to be even worse for Ukrainian losses than the Kherson Offensive. The Russians casualties have been consistently minimal and the estimated ratio is 1 to every 10 Ukrainians. With the Ukrainian offensive this ratio has to be even higher.
Notes taken from Moon of Alabama.
And it seems, Wagner is recruiting long sentence prisoners .... in exchange for 6 months Ukraine as a storm-trooper .... plus if they still live and want, a job at Wagner's.
We are looking at a pool of 400.000 people.
Please give sauce for these claims. Pics of the games etc.....
It’s called research. A simple google will help. And the post is correct. Those mainly fighting in the Donetsk are the DPR, the LPR, the Chechens and the Musicians have arrived enmasse. The Nazis are being decimated. The last battle around 8 days ago saw 10,000 Nazis sent to Bandera and 25,000 wounded. Ukraine is being thrashed.
I see the recruiter told the convicts that Russia has already used more ammunition that it used at Stalingrad in 1942.
You are retarded if you don't know Russia was asked by the seceding provinces to help. Or are you retarded on purpose?
Agreed, need sauce, although I do believe it because of past posts that supplied footage etc.
This board used to provide sauce with their claims rather than automatically pressing the post button.
Now they just get mad when you actually ask for sauce to go with claims so we don’t look idiotic toward other people we reiterate the information to.
Here is an archive of war footage from this war. https://rentry.org/7op3o
Russia had over 35,000 soldiers killed and about 50,000 severely wounded in Ukraine.
If they are just playing around by using 10% of their military and their 2nd rate equipment... perhaps they should stop playing around. As the bodies continue to come home... Russian families might get upset.
They were invited into Eastern Ukraine by the citizens, for help...it wasn't an all-out invasion. Fear monger much? Imagine coming on GAW and pushing tv propaganda, yikes.
100% correct. Another useful idiot that thought this all started on 24 February this year. Do your research instead of vomiting up propaganda.
I understand that the people of Eastern Ukraine were being attacked and abused by their own government, and that many citizens of predominantly Russian ethnicity Eastern Ukraine welcomed Russian troops to come in and stabilize the situation, provide security and possibly to annex those regions.
However, there are several indisputable facts.
As of July 21st, (according to the Pentagon) Russia has had 15,000 troops killed and about 40,000 wounded. By now, the figures are much higher although it's open to speculation. Russia has at least 25,000 casualties to date and over 50,000 severely wounded. The exact #'s are not available to any source. However, suffice it to say that is a LOT of dead Russian soldiers.
Russia has NOT declared war yet in Ukraine. However, your suggestion that Russia is fighting using only 10% of their strength and not their best equipment is not accurate.
In just two replies... you have called people who you don't agree with "retarded" and "fear monger" and "propaganda". Maybe you need a time out.
I would believe the pentagon. That's political dissemination.
I call out lies because I and millions more are sick to death at them. Why would you believe any propaganda of the Pentagon?? Unbelievable! They are waging a PROXY war with NATO to undermine the Russian government and they have slunk away with their tails between their legs. I wouldn’t believe anything those warmongers report.
Yes I'm sorry to report, you are retarded on purpose. Do you even realize that the Russian military is the largest in the world? Do you even realize that it is comprised of over 2 million men? No, obviously you don't realize, as you lay your intentional retardation on the table.
They invaded on 4 axis back in Feb, they attempted to surround the Kiev... yes, it was an all-out invasion.
The notion that Russia could easily put an end to this war if they merely tried is laughable at this point.
They're buying ammo from North Korea and China, their military ranks are so thinned out that they're letting rapists and murderers come fight for them as a get out of jail free card.
Just yesterday Russian sources on Telegram showed them firing up tanks that have been sitting in storage for decades.
The Russia military is in sad shape right now and no where near the power it was perceived to be 6 months ago.
I dont believe for a minute that body count.
257th day of the war is today. Divide 50k by that it's 194.5 kills per day. Every day.
Yet Ukraine really hasn't put a dent in Russia and has had to surrender all over the map.
Ukraine is still breathing because Russia is holding those two regions as they planned.
I do believe the 50k body count is Ukraine killing mostly there own civilians. So if that's what you mean then ok.
You’re figures are way out. Ukraine entered the fight with around 360,000 including around 100,000 mercenaries. Around 250,000 have been killed or wounded, never to be returned to the battlefield.
I think you need to re read my post. I'm speaking on the claim of 50k Russian casualties,not Ukraine.