A logical way to return to a simple and effective voting system:
- One day voting. No electronic devices (including cell phones) will be allowed.
- Photo ID must be presented and verified.
- Voter role books are signed by voter.
- Signature is immediately verified by existing voter role registry (separate area).
- Paper ballot is then filled out by voter and placed in secure container.
- Votes are counted on premises by citizens.*
- Citizen counters will be selected the same as jury duty members in advance. They are subjected to Voltaire in order to weed out the unqualified.
NO ELECTRONIC TABULATORS USED.
We need something similar to this folks. What do you think?
Here is my solution.
3 part ballot that you tear apart (think forensic tear)
Left side -- actual vote (you put this in the vote bin)
Middle part --- your receipt (you take this home)
Right part --- voter info, signature (you put this in the voters bin)
100 ballots per lot number---- all three parts will be marked with that lot number
All of the "vote" and "voters" tickets will be scanned and posted online by lot number. No "tear" connection can be made between the two without the missing middle receipt piece.
Anyone can check their "forensic tears" online. Only the receipt holder can match both sides.
Raffle tickets use this tearing method to validate a winning ticket.
ALSO:
ANYONE can do can recount from the ballot images.
That would apply to #5. Good idea.
I don't like the Q-codes/barcodes. These are a hack waiting to happen.
I think we should post the human readable, raw data, paper ballot images online.
Have it to where ONLY the voter can check THEIR ballot online.
Paper tears, at the time of vote, would be hard for a computer algorithm to fake and doable to check by a human in lots of 100.
With the right side tear, a person could verify (with their receipt) that THEY were the person that voted and could challenge fake entries.
This is a "many eyes" approach.
The right side of the ballot would be your voter role (to be posted online)
The difference is that it's forensically matched to the receipt with the tear.
If someone uses a unique pen their vote could be matched to their info that way. Imagine this nonsense of giving sharpies vs ball points out. Probably a good reason to do non-partisan voter registration.
Also people will end up drawing or writing on their vote if they know it's going to be posted online.
Could fingerprints be seen on scanned ballots? I think not. But how much quality would be needed to match the tears?
That would not be consistent.
With the tear it would be something that you were going to do anyway.
Random ---- but not too random....
Years ago I had a Mavica floppy disk camera.
IIRC it could put about 20 decent quality pictures on a 1.44MB floppy.
Good question.
If you limit your color palate you can compress the shit out of it.
My ballpark guess --- 1MB storage per ballot
You could store a million ballots on a $50 terabyte drive --- EASY
With some tweaking you could get 10 times as much.
And dip your finger in indelible ink. So no one can vote more than once.
I have said this for over 50 years.
Better solution:
Everyone show up to the town square, fully armed.
People who support one candidate goes to one side, the other to the other.
They count how many people there are and declare a winner.
If the other side disagrees, just get it over with. Whoever survived is declared the winner.
Having seen the other side your terms are acceptable
I like it. But we do need to make a provision so military and those homebound by a legitimate infirmary (recovering from surgery, post fx for example) can vote...
I disagree.
If you're serving in the military, you don't get a vote. Why? Because of a clear and obvious conflict of interest. The military should have ZERO political power in a functional state. In fact, there should be NO military -- only militia!
Same goes if you are working for the government or on government support. Taking money from the government means you do not get to vote.
If you are too sick to vote, too bad. It means you are too sick to fight, so your vote is meaningless. A vote represents someone's willingness to fight.
Understood.
I'm working on an absentee ballot. This is a trickier problem.
The person would have to mail in a request for an absentee ballot.
These requests would be posted online for everyone to see --- well before the election --- to be scrutinized.
We don't have a federal standard the states take care of their elections.
This is a good list please take it to your state house wherever you live and get groups of people and start lobbying to get your legislature to make those changes.
I think that we should in NO WAY give more power to the federal government. Voting laws are set up by the individual states. ALL of the states are responsible for upholding the laws made by their state. THE VOTERS need to hold their states accountable. Stop allowing the cheating. Educate your neighbors on the issues on the ballot. We have to stop accepting the idea . . ... " Well... that's just the way it is." I have come to really hate that line. What can be done to shake this kind of resigned thinking?
Back in the day when I worked at the polls in NYS. our districts were limited to approximately 500 voters and the regulations required 4 inspectors, 2 Republican and 2 Democrat. 3 inspectors could force a prospective voter to use a provisional ballot instead of voting on the mechanical machines that we used to use. Inspectors were assigned as close as possible to their homes, we the idea being that we would be likely to have a pretty good idea who was legit.
No electronic devices allowed.
There are still film cameras.
it has the right element and Democrats would hate it so, works for me.
We need to keep in mind that this is now controlled by the state legislatures.
Get the left to go along. Then you have something.
I hear you loud and clear. We need this type law passed in the first Republican controlled presidency and congress.
Do not forget: PURPLE FINGERS
But not put in place by federal government. Any change needs to be adopted by states, per the Constitution.
I think it will never happen because the milk is already spoiled. Need to throw out the whole batch and start over. Not one of those installed politicians are gonna try to undo their crooked unelected support.
My idea is a secession. Texas drafted up the papers already. Some not all red states will follow. You do not continue to play a rigged game. Congress, the Senate and Presidency do not represent o our values. We will have our constitution, bill of rights, we will be the new Republic. Do you really want to pretend as if we can vote our way out of this. Whatever is here is here, and it should capture progressives who voted for it. THe rest of us need to not comply!!!