Alice Cooper…. This Horrendous Activity has been Promoted and Happening for a very long time !!😡😡😡
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He wasnt a Christian back then....if people cant be redeemed after participating in depraved behavior then I guess we wont be seeing David or Paul in heaven either
They have to confess and turn away.
I hear what you're saying - it's hard to think about forgiving things like that.
But,
The Bible says everyone can be saved, no matter the sin. That's the enormity of coverage Jesus' sacrifice offers us if we accept it.
When we accept Jesus' sacrifice - we are covered by his perfection and are seen as such when we Stand before God.
If a person decides to not accept that sacrifice, you are everything you are - which is short of the required perfection. The Bible says that even thinking hateful thoughts is equal to murder - or lustful thoughts are equal to adultery.
With those sorts of standards, EVERY SINGLE ONE of us are in need to be covered by Jesus' sacrifice.
At the end of the day, sin is sin, no little sin or big sin, all sins are classed as sin. The only thing different is the effect of sin, some have little effect or consequences, other sins have life altering/damaging consequences.
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IDK man, something something millstones + ocean.......
I hear what you're saying. I've been tested with my own really difficult thing to forgive, just over a year ago now - and I'm still dealing with that.
It's a walk - understanding my own emotions and the difference between righteous anger, which we can definitely have (according to the Bible) - and a desire for Vengeance.
Understanding that according to the Bible "Vengeance is the Lord's" - I have to walk towards the goal of - literally giving my desire for Vengeance - over to the Lord.
And this is also a huge test of what Forgiveness is - in this huge test of Forgiveness, I was able to understand better - the monumental amount of Grace God has given us - for killing Jesus, His perfect son.
Imagine having your perfect son, killed the way Jesus was. Can you imagine how angry you would be?
Now can you also imagine how much you would have to love someone to allow that to happen to your son - because your son was the only way those people (you and me) - could be with God in Heaven when we die?
It's a wild story! These are huge big things.
You illustrate very well the difficulty in these things for us to be able to do ourselves - which is why we bow to God and recognize why we Needed Jesus' sacrifice.
Well now you've done one thing that the left does.
If you're one thing they hate, they assume you're all of it. Nazi, Holocaust denier, the entire gamut.
Alice Cooper found Christ later on, and despite how bad the marketing and some of his songs are, it doesn't mean he was a satanic pedophile. It means they used him to promote it. And I say this as a lukewarm Cooper fan
You guys need to catch up. Promotion of it is the key to everything. They use music and movies to promote their isms.
Those doing their bidding in large part are useful idiots. Some are true believers, however I'd say 75% are doing as they're instructed.
The one irredeemable sin mentioned in the Bible is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
They used to tell us that in 1st grade, but never defined it so we wouldn't accidentally do it. There's always been something wrong with the Catholic Church.
Vengeance - I think you're maybe coming to the wrong conclusion here.
I don't think anyone will claim to be able to NOT want some version of revenge/justice/vengeance, etc. if the things you described happened to someone we loved...
Or heck - look at the giant world event that is probably in front of us - mega pedo rings are going to be revealed - and the Jab/Lockdowns that were intentionally made to create harm and death to us all.
You are completely right - speaking for myself - if I claimed that I wouldn't want to unleash wrath on the heads of those people... I would absolutely be a hypocrite. Absolutely!
But that's not what we're telling you - we're saying the BIBLE says there is no irredeemable sin - except blapheming the Holy Spirit (which I have to learn more about, honestly).
I can't call other people liars - but I certainly think it would be completely normal and expected to have the reactions that you're saying we would.
Just don't mix US up with what the Bible says. It doesn't even matter what we say - only what the Bible says.
To believe in the need for Jesus, we are literally saying we are F'd without Him. We are completely screwed without Him - we are in NEED of help.
I hear what you're saying - that some of this talk can feel Pious. I get it.
But really - the message of the Bible is one that calls people who are broken (all of us) to someone who loves us and wants to save us from a really bad fate without Him.
Speaking for myself - I take the time to share this with you because, even though I never met you and likely never will - I care about you as a fellow human. I get nothing for stopping here and trading messages with you.
It's not about being pious - it's about sharing the Good News that we know with You.
We are broken and need rescued!
What I think is just as irrelevant as what you think when it comes to the Word of God.
You sound like you have other issues as well. Good luck!
As a mere mortal, I cannot forgive someone for that. God may, but I cannot.
I used to be like this. And then I read what scripture says. Do not expect to be forgiven by God of you yourself cannot forgive others. Trust me it’s difficult, but learn to hate the enemy, hate the sin, not the sinner. God loves us all. It’s just that some of us continue to want to live in sin, and that’s a problem. It takes time friend. It’s something you and Jesus can talk about. I still do myself.
That's a good point. God, Jesus is my father in heaven. If I picture my mom or dad being mad at us cos we were troubled kids, they'd be angry, punish us, but they'd never hate us, ever. Because we'll always be their children. I think that's how God sees and tries to tell us.
I agree with you to a point: no matter the sin, the blood of Jesus can cover it and forgive the sinner. However, even before we are saved God restrains us (by our conscience, circumstances, etc.) in the degree of evil that we perpetrate. I believe that people whom God allows to go so far into evil (raping children, mass murderers, etc.) are those "vessels of wrath prepared for destruction" but I cannot say with authority that there will be no former cannibals et al among the redeemed at the end.
Romans 9:22-24 "What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?"