π₯ππ§ Hydrogen powered SUV with 500 mile range π₯ππ§
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Great!! Except hydrogen doesn't exist in the ground ready to be refined into gasoline. You must disassociate hydrogen from water. Which take energy. Lots of energy. Which comes from electricity, which comes from power plants. Same as electric vehicles.
I agree with you.
It seems cleaner than surface mining for rare earth minerals for gigantic car batteries, that also need to be powered by external sources such as coal or oil, and then become chemical waste when expired.
At least the two chemicals in water are hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe and oxygen, something we breath every day.
I believe water ignites magnesium. Could one of the byproducts be hydrogen?
I am not a chemist and don't imply I am. I just wonder if maybe a chemical reaction could create hydrogen instead of using lots of external power.
If you have lots of hydrogen lying around, its a great fuel. Burn hydrogen and get water vapor!!! Problem is, hydrogen is reactive/explosive in air and is not found in its atomic state. It combines with oxygen to form water. A most abundant substance on earth. According to Wikipedia hydrogen makes up 0.000055% of the atmosphere so there is not much to get that way. NASA fills rocket tanks with liquid hydrogen so we can make it easy enough. But it take a lot of energy. That's the rub. If it were competitive with gasoline it would be here. Greenies are pushing it, but haven't thought everything through as usual.
Thanks u/Azorca ππ»
I appreciate your thorough follow ups and insights.
No more energy costs, or very low costs.
https://rumble.com/v20g596-u.s.-scientists-announce-fusion-energy-breakthrough.html
I hope you are right! I've been reading about fusion stuff since the 1960's in popular science or popular mechanics and remember getting all excited about it. It's 2023 now, and still a hope that is at least 10-12 years out. Just like the global warming catastrophe.
Same here.
We are into the grand solar minimum. The climate is getting colder not warmer. Global warming was brought to you by Al Gore and 'friends'. All the same BS and what brought us together here.
"It will start getting cooler" Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3C93ZWCmvM
Agree... Maunder minimum....It's all about the sun. Anything else is politics or graft.
the area 52 guy made a hydrogen cell to run his corvette, it wasn't what you think and may be like this vehicles hydrogen cell.
Could be...We got lots of hydrogen. I'm totally in.... if it works.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mki1a
I may have misunderstood what he is doing but it's still interesting.
Ever since Standard Oil killed the red car in Los Angeles, which my dad and I used to ride to the Dodger games, I will consider anything other than oil and gas. Corporate supression of competing technology is real and powerful. I'm just reacting to what I believe to be true. Which may be wrong. Thanks for the link.
Then you can think of hydrogen fuel cells like batteries that get "charged" by the grid. Are they better than lithium batteries? Probably in the long run. And there will probably be some electrolysis breakthroughs in the coming decades. I think I recall Stanley Meyer (water car guy) had a patent for splitting water molecules without electrolysis.
You can buy the reactors on eBay. Its only a fuel additive tho, not a complete replacement for gasoline.
Stan Meyers was murdered, not for inventing this but for inventing an electrical circuit that produced a lot more hydrogen than a normal reactor could. This circuit invention has disappeared.
Pft. My car runs mainly on hydrogen. It's stored (relatively) safely chemically bonded to carbon atoms.
Ah, a chemist's humor. You're in your elements.
Oh no!! Carbon! choke choke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjeM2IBhtlc
Bob Lazar did this a long time ago.
He actually tried to mass produce these but China had all the material needed to absorb the Hydrogen.
Iβd be interested to see what the crash/safety ratings are like. The backend is apparently loaded with Hydrogen. So the Hindenburg comes to mind.
Liquid hydrogen sits at roughly -420 degrees F. When you see a rocket launch, notice the frost and vapor surrounding the large fuel tanks. They use liquid hydrogen and oxygen as fuel. Liquid hydrogen is not exactly safe. First off, it will warm up sitting around and expand and create large pressure or just evaporate into the atmosphere (bye bye energy) or as the hindenberg did, burn up. If you get liquid hydrogen on you you will freeze like Terminator II. So there is some way they are storing the gas and releasing it when needed.
My concerns are refuelling hydrogen cars. I don't think there will be refuelling points where anyone could top up with hydrogen like a service station, far too dangerous. There will have to be specialised points where trained staff refuel the cars, away from housing and any other buildings. Expensive.
Yes, I agree. Would need to do something to harden the hydrogen storage compartment in some way. I don't even know if that's possible.
I mean yes itβs possible. Thereβs a whole host of different alloys and metals. The question would be. Is it economical?
Car really isnβt feasible as a consumer device if it costs 6 figures because of some special alloy they use to harden the storage compartment.
There is a shit ton of He3 on the surface of the moon apparently, because it isn't protected by our electromagnetic field. I was way more into this shit like over 10 years go until I realized they were not going to let us peasant scum have access, at least without a fight.
Browns gas reactors are cheap and can be powered by an ordinary lead acid storage battery, they are on eBay for $150 upwards.
Its dangerous stuff as compared to ordinary hydrogen, its can't be compressed as it would explode, it also adapts to the medium its applied to. It will weld metals but will not burn skin but will burn your skin hair. Its a distant relation to cold fusion.
This is good news. It's new, but we had hydrogen powered vehicles back in the 1970s. Completely safe too. The storage for the H2 was a compound that absorbed the H2 and rendered it completely safe from fire. A live demonstration was made having people fire bullets into the tank. The sponsor then lit a match and lit the bullet hole on fire. It was nothing more than a pilot light flame.
The company was based in Provo, UT. In 1976, they drove a fleet of 200 postal trucks running on H2 to Washington DC to lobby for funding.
Never heard from the company after that. Their vehicles never reached the market.
good idea genius... put fuel at the back of the vehicle.... it worked so well for the Ford Pinto!