New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
So according to the constitution, this will never happen. And plus, West Virginia will be just Virginia again…if this gets pushed. Unless I’m reading that incorrectly.
You are reading it correctly but Virginia was seceded from the US at the time and WV broke away to rejoin the US, thus, most are looking at the WV / VA situation wrongly: it is not the same as New California trying to breakaway from a California that is still a part of the US
I was also pointing out that your statement "Constitution does Not Allow for a State to be made inside a State, or from part of a State or parts of States, meaning it has to be an Original State made from a Territory...." was untrue. It is conditional.
As for Lincoln, he was put in a tough situation where he had to either let the Cabal win or break the constitution. They are experts in cooking up such situations.
The only question I am interested in is whether, if he had allowed the South to secede, it would have hastened the enslavement by the Cabal or not. I strongly believe it would have.
Trump definitely learnt from this, and while people hate him for wanting to do everything by the book, this is exactly what he is trying to avoid.
Every breath we exhale should be a gratitude for the past mistakes that helps us avoid them in future.
Either the Republic is Voluntary or it is forced....
If it is Voluntary, it is a True Republic, if it is Forced, it is Not a Republic, but something else....
Call it a Democracy, or anything else, but not a Republic, as it implies True Freedom to Self Govern....
IF it is a Voluntary Republic, then States have Sovereignty, and Sovereign Rights, and in those is the Right to LEAVE the Union without encumbrances....
If they Don't, then we have Feudalism under a Sovereign, and the states have nearly no Rights, as they ALL equally lost Lincolns war....
Lincoln had way better Choices, and more choices than to simply STEAL Congress's powers, and Declare War....
But he chose POORLY, and not only did he violate the U.S. Constitution, he Violated the Law of Nations, mentioned in U.S. Constitution Article I. Legislative Branch. Section VIII. Clause X. To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
I never said he did not violate the constitution, so why are you arguing that part?
I asserted that if he did not do that the Cabal would have enslaved up much earlier. Why are you not debating that? Provide counter points, if you can.
Article IV, section 3:
So according to the constitution, this will never happen. And plus, West Virginia will be just Virginia again…if this gets pushed. Unless I’m reading that incorrectly.
There is a scenario. If CA election fraud breaks wide open ...
You are reading it correctly but Virginia was seceded from the US at the time and WV broke away to rejoin the US, thus, most are looking at the WV / VA situation wrongly: it is not the same as New California trying to breakaway from a California that is still a part of the US
Here is the case that settled the question over the constitutionality of WV's creation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_v._West_Virginia
And that is just another piece of the Federal Constitution that Lincoln directly Violated....
He has a long list of actual Constitutional Violations, and I do believe the Founders would have had him Shot with Cannons for Treasonous Acts....
Maybe this will help add to the Convo::
The South was right, by S. A. Steel - Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/southwasrightbys00stee
I was also pointing out that your statement "Constitution does Not Allow for a State to be made inside a State, or from part of a State or parts of States, meaning it has to be an Original State made from a Territory...." was untrue. It is conditional.
As for Lincoln, he was put in a tough situation where he had to either let the Cabal win or break the constitution. They are experts in cooking up such situations.
The only question I am interested in is whether, if he had allowed the South to secede, it would have hastened the enslavement by the Cabal or not. I strongly believe it would have.
Trump definitely learnt from this, and while people hate him for wanting to do everything by the book, this is exactly what he is trying to avoid.
Every breath we exhale should be a gratitude for the past mistakes that helps us avoid them in future.
Is the United States a Republic or is it not??
Either the Republic is Voluntary or it is forced....
If it is Voluntary, it is a True Republic, if it is Forced, it is Not a Republic, but something else....
Call it a Democracy, or anything else, but not a Republic, as it implies True Freedom to Self Govern....
IF it is a Voluntary Republic, then States have Sovereignty, and Sovereign Rights, and in those is the Right to LEAVE the Union without encumbrances....
If they Don't, then we have Feudalism under a Sovereign, and the states have nearly no Rights, as they ALL equally lost Lincolns war....
Lincoln had way better Choices, and more choices than to simply STEAL Congress's powers, and Declare War....
But he chose POORLY, and not only did he violate the U.S. Constitution, he Violated the Law of Nations, mentioned in U.S. Constitution Article I. Legislative Branch. Section VIII. Clause X. To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
I never said he did not violate the constitution, so why are you arguing that part?
I asserted that if he did not do that the Cabal would have enslaved up much earlier. Why are you not debating that? Provide counter points, if you can.