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Do we want mccarthy to be speaker?
posted 3 years ago by PaNix 3 years ago by PaNix +14 / -0

Is trump wanting mccarthy to be speaker a pump fake?

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– 307Sleeper 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I like DJT but I don't always agree with him. Just say NO to McCarthy.

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– BufordXL 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The Right thing would be to elect Trump as Speaker and They all know it. The GOP has no balls.

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– SkinnyBrewSue 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Part of me wants to just get it over with and let him be speaker….the other part of me (the stronger “give ‘‘em hell” part). Says NO WAY McCarthy…never, never, never!! Makes for interesting times, for sure.

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– Tewdryg 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

NO. However, after analyzing it, IMHO I think he cuts major deals with the Freedom caucus to garner the necessary votes to become Speaker of the House. As far as Trump's 'odd' behavior for supporting for McCarthy, consider this:

Considering Trump's actions in terms of Las Vegas odds. Trump has most likely considered and realized there are no other 'real' GOP contenders for the Speaker of the House position. Before people jump the gun and claim there is certainly other candidate for the Speakership, you are correct. There are other candidates like Andy Biggs and Jim Jordan. However, we have seen in Trump that he seems to pick 'winners' that are sometimes even contrary to his own ideals. Why? This is due to the realization that Trump knows he is most likely not going to affect the outcome of the vote anyway. Did you notice Trump became silent after McCarthy failed to garner the votes after the second round of voting? I believe Trump reevaluated the odds, studied the rules and became more familiar with the process. After this, it appears Trump has decided to remain endorsing McCarthy for Speaker. I'll get to this in a moment, but first correctly picking the winner, despite the ideology, has 'political capital'. This is really seeing Sun Tsu tactics in action. By supporting McCarthy, Trump in the least shows McCarthy that he supported him and can even claim he helped McCarthy to win. It positions Trump to be in better standing with the inevitable candidate. Do I agree with this tactic? No. I am far more ideological and could never be in politics. Have you noticed how public Trump is in supporting McCarthy? Even Don Trump Jr. after being off the radar map for a while has suddenly and very publicly joined his father endorsing McCarthy. It sure seems like a clarion signal that obsequiously says-- "Look, we Trumps are supporting you" in the hopes of getting political capital in return. From my involvement in politics, I found it to be detestable, slimy, and upsetting. I wanted to take a shower after every caucus. Unfortunately, being an idealist in politics never seems to work. It's all about cutting deals. IMHO, Trump already knows this.

It appears there is a road block keeping McCarthy from getting the nomination. However, he is still by far the most likely candidate to succeed. With the trickle of defectors going to Jim Jordan, it is not nearly enough momentum at this time to prevent the inevitable. Trump's pause in supporting McCarthy was to see if McCarthy was still the best contender to win. After reviewing the rules and process, Trump reaffirmed his support for McCarthy. IMHO, this is the reason why Don Trump, Jr. was activated to help reaffirm this message publicly to McCarthy. I recently learned that 218 are not needed to win the Speaker's chair, only a majority is needed. This majority has to surpass Jeffries' 212 votes he has from the demonrats though. The likely scenario is McCarthy cuts major deals with the freedom caucus to garner the necessary votes to get him elected.

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– MAG768720 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Trump has most likely considered and realized there are no other 'real' GOP contenders for the Speaker of the House position.

Key point.

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– SilverWolf55 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The Choice being presented is between choosing to be stabbed Frontally (Jeffries) or in the back (Again) by McCarthy? I choose the 3rd option, Forcing McCarthy to Stop & selecting Byron Donalds, that is our current way out of this.

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– WinstonO1984 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The ONLY person I trust is TRUMP, and he is the Captain of this Ship. If he backs him, that is where you vote.

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– SilverWolf55 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And When McCarthy stabs us & Trump in the back Again then we'll just hear "I wish Kevin had done the right thing" just how Many of President Trump's Bad endorsements Must we be forced to deal with consequence wise? I love President Trump but he is listening to the WRONG people and hasn't learned this valuable lesson in dc politics.

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– WinstonO1984 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Without Trump...we would not even be here right now. We have NO IDEA what is going on behind the scenes. Even Trump said we push this and might get something worse. The Swamp, will fight back on this one. Trump is the only player in this game I trust. Downvote away...

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– RedWhiteBlue15 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

No. The plus side to this though is that congress will keep being stalled until someone is picked.

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– GGRockz 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I read here that Trump changed his mind.

https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqYoaNu6/-has-the-dam-ruptured--/c/

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– dbsupernova 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't think it's a fake. I think Trump realizes the republican House has very little power anyway so it won't matter who Speaker is.

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– NanaQ45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well, they can't say Trump is a cult leader anymore, now can they? Optics.

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– MisprisionIsEvil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Is there one shred of honesty in any of this?

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– MisprisionIsEvil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No. No McCarthy. That would be another term for Pelosi. They're probably pizza buddies.

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