"This is still talk. Its the results that matter".
" Results" so far:
Kevin agreed to a Rules Package taking centralized control away from a select few and returning it to ALL House Membrrs. Kevin promised to submit that Rules Package for approval. Kevin DID submit the Rules package for approval on Monday as promised. With Kevin's support, the Rules Package passed with only one Republican voting no.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote on defending the recently hired army of IRS agents. As promised that vote was held. And it was passed.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote creating a Church Committee to investigate the weaponization of Federal Government against the American people. Kevin kept that promise. The vote was held. With Kevin's support it passed. Jim Jordan will head the Committee. Massie will be on the Committee.
Kevin also had all of Pelosis barriers and metal detectors removed.
Kevin was elected Speaker on Saturday. Today is....?
Re: Committees, re:votes that have to pass the Senate and/or hit the Usurper's desk, etc.:
None of this matters until something actually comes from it.
Rules package is superficial for the moment; neat, but this isn't U.S. policy.
Defunding the IRS agents -- Is that something that has to hit the Senate, or does the House have full authority over this? Also, expect challenges to come from this. It wouldn't be the first time that something looks like a win and then is twisted.
Jim Jordan heading a committee is pointless unless they actually do something with it. This requires enforcement and full utilization of the powers of the House to do so. Nunez was head of a committee and nothing was done with that.
Re: barriers and metal detectors removed; so? We knew that these were pointless anyway. No one was going to be caught dead after the 6th whether the detectors and barriers were there or not. This is virtue signaling, not some sort of substantial progress. Those were not going to be up forever and that this is a point that buys good will from you proves that.
You also forgot the conveniently removed mandates from the Pentagon.
By all means: Praise the good he's done, but don't be fooled into complacency. The Republican party has done this before, and his record is what you should be looking at first and remaining skeptical of him. If you aren't skeptical, you won't hold him to account. We desperately need accountability.
We ALL need to remember that we are giving him a chance because we've been forced to. It is not an excuse to throw all of our trust into a career politician.
Blind optimism absolutely does create complacency. McCarthy has yet to actually prove himself. The things that have been done right now are cool, but don't have lasting effects and haven't yielded any accountability or justice or protections for the American people. It has not brought back billions from black projects or funds for Ukraine. It hasn't withdrawn arms that are now lost on the black market.
But most of these things McCarthy supported. Supported aiding Ukraine. Voted to support quite a few things that harmed the American population.
So, a few good starts that may lead to results are not results in their own right.
Do I need to bring up how many times it had looked like we'd see justice from the likes of Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, the rare time we had a full majority in the House and Senate while we also had the Presidency?
Sorry, it's going to take a bit more than changing the rules -- which every incoming speaker does -- and assigning people to committees to prove that he is good.
If we don't remember history, and we keep repeating it from sheer hopium overdoses, that's absolutely complacency.
For the second line: Do you really want an honest answer? I've gotten into it with people who will sell hopium and backpedal and reason why they were still right when they were wrong.
Our side, on all parts, has boatloads of complacency. For every person that tells other people to get involved with local programs for example, there are -- literally -- tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions and tens of millions who don't.
So anyway: There is no amount of hopium, copium, energy, jabs, thought policing, etc. that will make me agree with McCarthy's being a force for good, until we see actual accountability and justice happen under his eye. That is something only he can do. Only he can prove people wrong.
That's the last I'll say in this thread. Too many people are willing to instill faith into a career politician, no matter how many times that is proven to be dangerous. I will not be one of those people, and I hope most of us will not be either.
I want everyone to read what he's done and ask themselves this:
"If the things he has done already are the only good things he does, and he does everything wrong tomorrow, or the next day, and he suddenly approves and assists in passing another 80 billion to Ukraine, are you satisfied with his performance? Is that good enough?"
Thanks. I appreciate the reply, and yes, my question was sincere. After all, all that you are sharing is some facts and then your opinion.
So yes, " Do you see complacency as a big problem here at GAW?" I'm after your opinion there, and I think you answered the question.
Just a few thoughts:
Does optimism require being blind? In other words, is blind optimism the only form of optimism?
Also: personally, I see a lot of, and tend to ignore or avoid with prejudice, viewpoints that focus on personality (imo) as opposed to more 'wholistic' perspectives. In this case, I would not be paying much attention to people who came up and said "McCarthy is a force for good now"
I would guess, on the whole (and perhaps this is ... overly optimistic kek), most folks here expressing a positive thinking bent adopt this positive thinking outlook on the premise that DJT and other good forces are/were in control (that is, had the determining influence on) the situation, or were able to utilize the situation to generate a good outcome. In other words, its a step in towards the right direction. By contrast, I really don't see anyone here expressing the view "this is great!! We're home free now!". But possibly, I just ignore and filter those expressions if they are there (aka don't assign attention).
The idea that some progress has been made, or that a good outcome was achieved as opposed to possible bad outcomes (which is not to say it was the best outcome - but who really knows what DJT and team are doing?), is where any optimism or positive appreciation rightly lies, imo.
Key to that is the idea that if McCarthy is a puppet, that puppet is now under different control. However, how true that premise is remains to be seen, as you are at much pains to point out!
Personally, I think that, for the troops, positive outcomes and wins, even if they are small, are important for morale and to reinforce productive energy. But above all, a balanced, integrated and reasoned attitude needs to be maintained if wins are to be seen for what they are, valued only in the context of the larger war that we are in.
So, in conclusion, I will plug my favorite remedy: ditch the hopium, get a prescription for hopermectin.
"This is still talk. Its the results that matter".
" Results" so far:
Kevin agreed to a Rules Package taking centralized control away from a select few and returning it to ALL House Membrrs. Kevin promised to submit that Rules Package for approval. Kevin DID submit the Rules package for approval on Monday as promised. With Kevin's support, the Rules Package passed with only one Republican voting no.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote on defending the recently hired army of IRS agents. As promised that vote was held. And it was passed.
Kevin also promised to have a House vote creating a Church Committee to investigate the weaponization of Federal Government against the American people. Kevin kept that promise. The vote was held. With Kevin's support it passed. Jim Jordan will head the Committee. Massie will be on the Committee.
Kevin also had all of Pelosis barriers and metal detectors removed.
Kevin was elected Speaker on Saturday. Today is....?
Re: Committees, re:votes that have to pass the Senate and/or hit the Usurper's desk, etc.:
None of this matters until something actually comes from it.
Rules package is superficial for the moment; neat, but this isn't U.S. policy.
Defunding the IRS agents -- Is that something that has to hit the Senate, or does the House have full authority over this? Also, expect challenges to come from this. It wouldn't be the first time that something looks like a win and then is twisted.
Jim Jordan heading a committee is pointless unless they actually do something with it. This requires enforcement and full utilization of the powers of the House to do so. Nunez was head of a committee and nothing was done with that.
Re: barriers and metal detectors removed; so? We knew that these were pointless anyway. No one was going to be caught dead after the 6th whether the detectors and barriers were there or not. This is virtue signaling, not some sort of substantial progress. Those were not going to be up forever and that this is a point that buys good will from you proves that.
You also forgot the conveniently removed mandates from the Pentagon.
By all means: Praise the good he's done, but don't be fooled into complacency. The Republican party has done this before, and his record is what you should be looking at first and remaining skeptical of him. If you aren't skeptical, you won't hold him to account. We desperately need accountability.
We ALL need to remember that we are giving him a chance because we've been forced to. It is not an excuse to throw all of our trust into a career politician.
Methinks that an optimistic and pre-creative outlook does not necessarily require complacency.
But hmmm.... Do you see complacency as a big problem here at GAW?
Blind optimism absolutely does create complacency. McCarthy has yet to actually prove himself. The things that have been done right now are cool, but don't have lasting effects and haven't yielded any accountability or justice or protections for the American people. It has not brought back billions from black projects or funds for Ukraine. It hasn't withdrawn arms that are now lost on the black market.
But most of these things McCarthy supported. Supported aiding Ukraine. Voted to support quite a few things that harmed the American population.
So, a few good starts that may lead to results are not results in their own right.
Do I need to bring up how many times it had looked like we'd see justice from the likes of Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, the rare time we had a full majority in the House and Senate while we also had the Presidency?
Sorry, it's going to take a bit more than changing the rules -- which every incoming speaker does -- and assigning people to committees to prove that he is good.
If we don't remember history, and we keep repeating it from sheer hopium overdoses, that's absolutely complacency.
For the second line: Do you really want an honest answer? I've gotten into it with people who will sell hopium and backpedal and reason why they were still right when they were wrong.
Our side, on all parts, has boatloads of complacency. For every person that tells other people to get involved with local programs for example, there are -- literally -- tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions and tens of millions who don't.
So anyway: There is no amount of hopium, copium, energy, jabs, thought policing, etc. that will make me agree with McCarthy's being a force for good, until we see actual accountability and justice happen under his eye. That is something only he can do. Only he can prove people wrong.
That's the last I'll say in this thread. Too many people are willing to instill faith into a career politician, no matter how many times that is proven to be dangerous. I will not be one of those people, and I hope most of us will not be either.
I want everyone to read what he's done and ask themselves this:
"If the things he has done already are the only good things he does, and he does everything wrong tomorrow, or the next day, and he suddenly approves and assists in passing another 80 billion to Ukraine, are you satisfied with his performance? Is that good enough?"
I pray the answer is "no."
Take care fren!
Thanks. I appreciate the reply, and yes, my question was sincere. After all, all that you are sharing is some facts and then your opinion.
So yes, " Do you see complacency as a big problem here at GAW?" I'm after your opinion there, and I think you answered the question.
Just a few thoughts:
Does optimism require being blind? In other words, is blind optimism the only form of optimism?
Also: personally, I see a lot of, and tend to ignore or avoid with prejudice, viewpoints that focus on personality (imo) as opposed to more 'wholistic' perspectives. In this case, I would not be paying much attention to people who came up and said "McCarthy is a force for good now"
I would guess, on the whole (and perhaps this is ... overly optimistic kek), most folks here expressing a positive thinking bent adopt this positive thinking outlook on the premise that DJT and other good forces are/were in control (that is, had the determining influence on) the situation, or were able to utilize the situation to generate a good outcome. In other words, its a step in towards the right direction. By contrast, I really don't see anyone here expressing the view "this is great!! We're home free now!". But possibly, I just ignore and filter those expressions if they are there (aka don't assign attention).
The idea that some progress has been made, or that a good outcome was achieved as opposed to possible bad outcomes (which is not to say it was the best outcome - but who really knows what DJT and team are doing?), is where any optimism or positive appreciation rightly lies, imo.
Key to that is the idea that if McCarthy is a puppet, that puppet is now under different control. However, how true that premise is remains to be seen, as you are at much pains to point out!
Personally, I think that, for the troops, positive outcomes and wins, even if they are small, are important for morale and to reinforce productive energy. But above all, a balanced, integrated and reasoned attitude needs to be maintained if wins are to be seen for what they are, valued only in the context of the larger war that we are in.
So, in conclusion, I will plug my favorite remedy: ditch the hopium, get a prescription for hopermectin.
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Thanks for the response, and appreciation for the counter-arguments to hopium you make an effort to inject into the discussions.
Complacency? As a big problem? Here at GAW?
u/#trumpnope
Seems GAW provides too many answers and news connections to be tagged as complacent.
Exactly... I'm giving him a chance because I have no choice.
I'm praying for him.... and all of them, for them to have the courage to do the right thing, not for money or fame, but because it's right.
Words are nice, we will know by their actions ...
Valid points
At least the house is no longer locked up like the Politboro...