Don't worry, Timmy isn't too bad in this one. He doesn't have a lot to add for most of it with the exception of the convo they have about big tech for a bit. He jumps in and starts talking about Trump and stuff, mildly annoying. Also his voice is almost gone, he sounds really hoarse. Perfect timing! 🤣
He doesn't do his usual OMG GUEST MAKING POINTS - EVERYONE DONT 4GET MEEEE type of bloviating both you and I can't stand. 😭😉
I appreciate when Tim counters them with a moderate slant, actually.
I don't appreciate when he denies what's been in his face for years because he's afraid of YouTube (or DoJ, ironically) suppression.
Even Gaetz downplayed things like these classified documents, and that personally annoyed me as it reeks of ye olde Republican "don't play their games, when they go low we go high" bullshit. Did not like that bit.
Overall a good interview though, and it was kind of amusing seeing Luke trying to be anti Trump and Gaetz just brushing it off.
Luke also handled being brushed off about it pretty gracefully too, which I appreciate.
Even Ian was okay this one.
As far as fence sitters go, I do tend to prefer Tim. I don't even know that he's much of a fence sitter, as he clearly strongly believes in personal liberties and not murdering babies, but also agrees with the leftists on stuff.
Neither side really understands what it means to be moderate anymore, and any true centrist will tell you that we are screeched at by both sides at one time or another, and Tim rolls with it so good for him.
What I mean to say as a TL;DR: Good interview. Tim really not that bad. Tim sometimes annoying when he tries to deny a deep state and then describes, perfectly to a T, a deep state.
Tim doesn't get money directly from YouTube, as he doesn't run ads.
Tim gets money from people willing to subscribe to his site, the same as Crowder, because they believe he's worth supporting.
Tim is one of the most "average Joes" we've actually got in current politics.
Being supported by viewers doesn't make him a grifter or anything of the sort, and furthermore how the hell do you think we actually build an alternative media in the first place?
Not getting paid directly by YT is entirely besides the point.
However, you’re not completely accurate here — Tim’s channel is fully monetized through:
superchats (viewer support on the YT platform), and
Google AdSense (a share of ad revenue TY receives from prerolls and other ad buys throughout creators’ content)
How do you think Tim stays on TY, continue being monetized, and have his podcast suggested in the algorithm to non-subscribers?
Tim is VERY careful about playing by Youtube’s content rules — that what makes it possible for him to continue to receive superchats and a percentage of AdSense.
Ask yourself why creators like Salty Cracker aren’t monetized on YT and have had to use alternate monetization platforms to receive viewer support? Because he dgaf about YT’s content rules.
I’m not saying Tim’s the devil or he’s DS, or whatever — because honestly I actually get the sense that he knows the truth, but refuses to state it publicly because he fears being branded a conspiracy theorist.
So instead he’ll constantly refute ANY topic related to election fraud, and dutifully regurgitate mainstream talking points that there’s no evidence of it, and that Biden was legitimately elected. Same goes for any other case of election fraud.
Why are you being so petty? I listen to Tim's podcast a lot and while he is no "anon" they sure do discuss a lot of conspiracy theories, corruption in the government, election fraud, crimes against children, crazy woketards etc. They have tons of conservative guests like MTG, Gaetz, libs of TikTok and many more. Topics like aliens, transhumanism, the fakery of climate change are being discussed regularly. His podcast has actually opened some of my normie acquaintance's eyes to what's going on.
Bottom line: we don't need anyone to believe in Q in order to share the truths Q revealed. Q was just the messenger, it's the message itself that matters.
Also the digital battlefield has a lot of different battalions, and the Q angle is just one such battalion. Alt media is extremely important to our future. Alt media is what we substitute in for the mainstream.
Keyboard warriors willing to tear down the people who are actually doing something are absolutely more destructive than when they skirt the YouTube rules.
It's sometimes clear he doesn't believe some of the things he says, e.g. things like there being no deep state cabal. Because he often then describes the actions of said deep state cabal.
Tim is definitely good for us. If he weren't, people like Gaetz wouldn't be there. People always going to be shitty towards centrists though, it's just magnified because of how tribal today's politics have gotten.
Listening to Gaetz is ALWAYS good. I'm enjoying how he is a little more nonchalant and relaxed here with Tim, not afraid to throw in a cuss word if it helps tell him like it is, or just speak to something in direct simple terms.
He really is a no bullshit person and worthy of our admiration. I am starting to prefer someone in FL politics more than DeSantis for a potential POTUS! (other than Trump, of course!) Hoping his stock continues to rise and he can continue to cultivate a LOT OF POWER with the Republican Party.
yeah he is a milquetoast fence sitter, but he is also still on youtube and his show is growing exponentially.
For all his obsessive effort to stay middle of the road at the VERY least he is getting a lot of normie views and maybe gets them wondering if they've been lied to or what else they've been lied to about.
He does a good job with his show and his business.
But yes he is a fence sitter and is super middle of the road.
Put another way - is Alex Jones a "reliable" source?
No.
But if you are not red-pilled and still believe what you're told by mainstream sources you can get red-pilled by AJ and learn some true things, and then hopefully move on.
Same with Tim Pool. He is at least not MSM. He is playing a role, and for the most part his show is fun to watch.
Hey, on all accounts agreed. I do like to poke a little fun at him - actually the term "milquetoast fence sitter" is one he has used to refer to himself before! So my guess is that Tim is a pretty smart, self aware type of guy and knows his own flaws as well as we do.
I hold no grudges or ill will. I do find him a bit annoying at times but hey, comes with the territory. We all have stuff we do or say or think that isn't gonna jive with everyone else all the time.
Funny enough, I was replying to a post earlier and making a similar point about Glenn Greenwald.
I personally really enjoy Glenn and I've been following him a long time. I'm one of those who got here via a long road of being semi-conservative normie in my early youth, then turning libtarded for a while particularly out of a hatred of the Patriot Act and neoconservatism (which sent me and my friends to bad places and some of us never came back) before going to college afterward and discovering Ron Paul between Economics lectures.
Glenn has always had a really authentic principled stance against Establishment infringing on civil liberties - he published Snowden after all, and I have NO DOUBT if he hadn't gotten out of the country that Obama would have crucified him or he would have "had an accident" (R.I.P. Michael Hastings)
It really impressed me that he left HIS OWN NEWS COMPANY HE FOUNDED because they wouldn't let him publish his story on the Hunter Biden laptop too. That takes some guts, to walk away from your own thing that you started but now has gotten beyond your control... he had courage to stand up for what was right and not cowtow or be embarrassed about anything.
I have been watching his show since it started airing about a month ago on Rumble, its called SYSTEM UPDATE. I like the alternative message it offers and the range of guests - Glenn is a left wing populist mostly but I think more than others he steers away from engaging in things that will be off-putting to right wing populist folks.
For example Jimmy Dore loves to criticize Trump and overplay his actions as though Trump is just another neocon. Krystal and Saagar and also Kulinski used to kiss AOC and the Squad's asses for the smallest little stances and protests and turn a blind eye to their complicity and weakness falling in line with Pelosi and the establishment.
The same with Bernie, I mean what an AWFUL FUCKING SELLOUT he has become, its sickening actually. So many people believed in Sanders for reasons that were similar to Trump - the authenticity and principles. It's hard to imagine Bernie gave in to their bullshit, it was a horrible betrayal actually.
Anyhow Greenwald has said he likes to emphasize what right and left wing populism has in common rather than focus on divisions, and indeed many people here could watch his show and enjoy it. They would see eye to eye on a great many topics he covers - that explains why he is on Tucker Carlson so often among other things.
I think Greenwald can be similar to what Ron Paul was for me at a younger age and help to influence some Millenials and younger ones still in college who ascribe to being Dems but feel off about some things or don't entirely believe what they are being told is true. People like Glenn Greenwald can access those folks that our movement cannot, until they stop being lost and find their way. He's helpful to our goals is what I'm saying. We ALL need to wake up, regardless of where we are now or where we started.
Did anyone hear what he said about AOC??? That was by far the most interesting part of this interview, I thought. They asked him what he was talking about when the cameras caught him talking to AOC on the floor.
His answer (paraphrased): "I was asking her if the Dems were going to leave the floor, lowering the threshold for McCarthy to win. SHE WENT BACK AND MADE SURE ALL 212 DEMS STAYED AND KEPT VOTING FOR HAKEEM JEFFRIES"
So AOC was actively helping Gaetz keep all 212 Dems there, and voting for Hakeem on every round?
But I did hear him elaborate a bit on why they sort of NEEDED TO break it up once some concessions were given and the gap was bridged Friday.
Once they went back down to just the 6 Gaetz was saying that if they continued to hold out and refuse, McCarthy would get forced into the position of having to possibly go to the Democrats and make other concessions to them in return for catching 6 cases of instant COVID and having to leave the floor.
Whatever they'd ask for would be fundamental and damaging so in an effort to keep the ground they'd already taken without ceding somewhere else as well as TRULY damaging the credibility of the incoming Speaker with Republicans and giving the media a juicy steak as fodder they had to end the holdout.
In another interview Trump played up the urgency of his Friday night calls to the various members, saying if it went on any longer he thought something awful might've happened, we could have had a Democrat possibly end up with the Speakership.
I do find the internal relationships and interplay quite interesting and I think it's a credit to Gaetz and the original 6 (to borrow from hockey with a pun) that they actually knew when to STOP the holdout, before the media fearmongering and aspersions about nightmare scenarios ACTUALLY STARTED TO BECOME PASSABLE REALITY and could've happened.
They PUSHED at the perfect moment and RELENTED before it was too late and deserve credit for playing the whole thing nearly perfect and as achieving some VERY POSITIVE CHANGES that will benefit future candidates we find appealing for years in the future.
Also, I will never stop calling Paul Ryan a scumbag 😭🤣
Don't worry, Timmy isn't too bad in this one. He doesn't have a lot to add for most of it with the exception of the convo they have about big tech for a bit. He jumps in and starts talking about Trump and stuff, mildly annoying. Also his voice is almost gone, he sounds really hoarse. Perfect timing! 🤣
He doesn't do his usual OMG GUEST MAKING POINTS - EVERYONE DONT 4GET MEEEE type of bloviating both you and I can't stand. 😭😉
I appreciate when Tim counters them with a moderate slant, actually.
I don't appreciate when he denies what's been in his face for years because he's afraid of YouTube (or DoJ, ironically) suppression.
Even Gaetz downplayed things like these classified documents, and that personally annoyed me as it reeks of ye olde Republican "don't play their games, when they go low we go high" bullshit. Did not like that bit.
Overall a good interview though, and it was kind of amusing seeing Luke trying to be anti Trump and Gaetz just brushing it off.
Luke also handled being brushed off about it pretty gracefully too, which I appreciate.
Even Ian was okay this one.
As far as fence sitters go, I do tend to prefer Tim. I don't even know that he's much of a fence sitter, as he clearly strongly believes in personal liberties and not murdering babies, but also agrees with the leftists on stuff.
Neither side really understands what it means to be moderate anymore, and any true centrist will tell you that we are screeched at by both sides at one time or another, and Tim rolls with it so good for him.
What I mean to say as a TL;DR: Good interview. Tim really not that bad. Tim sometimes annoying when he tries to deny a deep state and then describes, perfectly to a T, a deep state.
It’s not due to laziness. Tim abides by his Youtube master’s rules.
Because the money’s worth more than the truth to him.
He’s a man of very questionable character.
Tim doesn't get money directly from YouTube, as he doesn't run ads.
Tim gets money from people willing to subscribe to his site, the same as Crowder, because they believe he's worth supporting.
Tim is one of the most "average Joes" we've actually got in current politics.
Being supported by viewers doesn't make him a grifter or anything of the sort, and furthermore how the hell do you think we actually build an alternative media in the first place?
Not getting paid directly by YT is entirely besides the point.
However, you’re not completely accurate here — Tim’s channel is fully monetized through:
superchats (viewer support on the YT platform), and
Google AdSense (a share of ad revenue TY receives from prerolls and other ad buys throughout creators’ content)
How do you think Tim stays on TY, continue being monetized, and have his podcast suggested in the algorithm to non-subscribers?
Tim is VERY careful about playing by Youtube’s content rules — that what makes it possible for him to continue to receive superchats and a percentage of AdSense.
Ask yourself why creators like Salty Cracker aren’t monetized on YT and have had to use alternate monetization platforms to receive viewer support? Because he dgaf about YT’s content rules.
I’m not saying Tim’s the devil or he’s DS, or whatever — because honestly I actually get the sense that he knows the truth, but refuses to state it publicly because he fears being branded a conspiracy theorist.
So instead he’ll constantly refute ANY topic related to election fraud, and dutifully regurgitate mainstream talking points that there’s no evidence of it, and that Biden was legitimately elected. Same goes for any other case of election fraud.
Sorry, but there’s no honor in that
Why are you being so petty? I listen to Tim's podcast a lot and while he is no "anon" they sure do discuss a lot of conspiracy theories, corruption in the government, election fraud, crimes against children, crazy woketards etc. They have tons of conservative guests like MTG, Gaetz, libs of TikTok and many more. Topics like aliens, transhumanism, the fakery of climate change are being discussed regularly. His podcast has actually opened some of my normie acquaintance's eyes to what's going on.
Bottom line: we don't need anyone to believe in Q in order to share the truths Q revealed. Q was just the messenger, it's the message itself that matters.
Didn't Q eventually advise readers to focus on the Q message without referencing the messanger?
Also the digital battlefield has a lot of different battalions, and the Q angle is just one such battalion. Alt media is extremely important to our future. Alt media is what we substitute in for the mainstream.
Keyboard warriors willing to tear down the people who are actually doing something are absolutely more destructive than when they skirt the YouTube rules.
It's sometimes clear he doesn't believe some of the things he says, e.g. things like there being no deep state cabal. Because he often then describes the actions of said deep state cabal.
Tim is definitely good for us. If he weren't, people like Gaetz wouldn't be there. People always going to be shitty towards centrists though, it's just magnified because of how tribal today's politics have gotten.
Listening to Gaetz is ALWAYS good. I'm enjoying how he is a little more nonchalant and relaxed here with Tim, not afraid to throw in a cuss word if it helps tell him like it is, or just speak to something in direct simple terms.
He really is a no bullshit person and worthy of our admiration. I am starting to prefer someone in FL politics more than DeSantis for a potential POTUS! (other than Trump, of course!) Hoping his stock continues to rise and he can continue to cultivate a LOT OF POWER with the Republican Party.
P.S. - Fuck Paul Ryan. Forever.
Excellent video. I loved hearing Matt's side of things. Thanks for posting it, OP!
yeah he is a milquetoast fence sitter, but he is also still on youtube and his show is growing exponentially.
For all his obsessive effort to stay middle of the road at the VERY least he is getting a lot of normie views and maybe gets them wondering if they've been lied to or what else they've been lied to about.
He does a good job with his show and his business.
But yes he is a fence sitter and is super middle of the road.
Put another way - is Alex Jones a "reliable" source?
No.
But if you are not red-pilled and still believe what you're told by mainstream sources you can get red-pilled by AJ and learn some true things, and then hopefully move on.
Same with Tim Pool. He is at least not MSM. He is playing a role, and for the most part his show is fun to watch.
Hey, on all accounts agreed. I do like to poke a little fun at him - actually the term "milquetoast fence sitter" is one he has used to refer to himself before! So my guess is that Tim is a pretty smart, self aware type of guy and knows his own flaws as well as we do.
I hold no grudges or ill will. I do find him a bit annoying at times but hey, comes with the territory. We all have stuff we do or say or think that isn't gonna jive with everyone else all the time.
Funny enough, I was replying to a post earlier and making a similar point about Glenn Greenwald.
I personally really enjoy Glenn and I've been following him a long time. I'm one of those who got here via a long road of being semi-conservative normie in my early youth, then turning libtarded for a while particularly out of a hatred of the Patriot Act and neoconservatism (which sent me and my friends to bad places and some of us never came back) before going to college afterward and discovering Ron Paul between Economics lectures.
Glenn has always had a really authentic principled stance against Establishment infringing on civil liberties - he published Snowden after all, and I have NO DOUBT if he hadn't gotten out of the country that Obama would have crucified him or he would have "had an accident" (R.I.P. Michael Hastings)
It really impressed me that he left HIS OWN NEWS COMPANY HE FOUNDED because they wouldn't let him publish his story on the Hunter Biden laptop too. That takes some guts, to walk away from your own thing that you started but now has gotten beyond your control... he had courage to stand up for what was right and not cowtow or be embarrassed about anything.
I have been watching his show since it started airing about a month ago on Rumble, its called SYSTEM UPDATE. I like the alternative message it offers and the range of guests - Glenn is a left wing populist mostly but I think more than others he steers away from engaging in things that will be off-putting to right wing populist folks.
For example Jimmy Dore loves to criticize Trump and overplay his actions as though Trump is just another neocon. Krystal and Saagar and also Kulinski used to kiss AOC and the Squad's asses for the smallest little stances and protests and turn a blind eye to their complicity and weakness falling in line with Pelosi and the establishment.
The same with Bernie, I mean what an AWFUL FUCKING SELLOUT he has become, its sickening actually. So many people believed in Sanders for reasons that were similar to Trump - the authenticity and principles. It's hard to imagine Bernie gave in to their bullshit, it was a horrible betrayal actually.
Anyhow Greenwald has said he likes to emphasize what right and left wing populism has in common rather than focus on divisions, and indeed many people here could watch his show and enjoy it. They would see eye to eye on a great many topics he covers - that explains why he is on Tucker Carlson so often among other things.
I think Greenwald can be similar to what Ron Paul was for me at a younger age and help to influence some Millenials and younger ones still in college who ascribe to being Dems but feel off about some things or don't entirely believe what they are being told is true. People like Glenn Greenwald can access those folks that our movement cannot, until they stop being lost and find their way. He's helpful to our goals is what I'm saying. We ALL need to wake up, regardless of where we are now or where we started.
In that spirit I'm going to link to this episode of SYSTEM UPDATE last night. Greenwald makes some absolutely fucking hilarious jokes about Biden and his Corvette. Hope anyone reading will give a listen and enjoy!
(NOTE: FAST FORWARD PAST THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OR SO ITS JUST A SCREEN DISPLAY BEFORE GOING LIVE THAT IS NOT EDITED OUT)
if Captain MilkToast Crunch doesnt get off the fence hes going to get hemorrhoids
Luke Rudkowski carries the show every episode, in my opinion.
Definitely dude.
Guy is a genius.
Did anyone hear what he said about AOC??? That was by far the most interesting part of this interview, I thought. They asked him what he was talking about when the cameras caught him talking to AOC on the floor.
His answer (paraphrased): "I was asking her if the Dems were going to leave the floor, lowering the threshold for McCarthy to win. SHE WENT BACK AND MADE SURE ALL 212 DEMS STAYED AND KEPT VOTING FOR HAKEEM JEFFRIES"
So AOC was actively helping Gaetz keep all 212 Dems there, and voting for Hakeem on every round?
Good catch, I may have missed that....
But I did hear him elaborate a bit on why they sort of NEEDED TO break it up once some concessions were given and the gap was bridged Friday.
Once they went back down to just the 6 Gaetz was saying that if they continued to hold out and refuse, McCarthy would get forced into the position of having to possibly go to the Democrats and make other concessions to them in return for catching 6 cases of instant COVID and having to leave the floor.
Whatever they'd ask for would be fundamental and damaging so in an effort to keep the ground they'd already taken without ceding somewhere else as well as TRULY damaging the credibility of the incoming Speaker with Republicans and giving the media a juicy steak as fodder they had to end the holdout.
In another interview Trump played up the urgency of his Friday night calls to the various members, saying if it went on any longer he thought something awful might've happened, we could have had a Democrat possibly end up with the Speakership.
I do find the internal relationships and interplay quite interesting and I think it's a credit to Gaetz and the original 6 (to borrow from hockey with a pun) that they actually knew when to STOP the holdout, before the media fearmongering and aspersions about nightmare scenarios ACTUALLY STARTED TO BECOME PASSABLE REALITY and could've happened.
They PUSHED at the perfect moment and RELENTED before it was too late and deserve credit for playing the whole thing nearly perfect and as achieving some VERY POSITIVE CHANGES that will benefit future candidates we find appealing for years in the future.
Also, I will never stop calling Paul Ryan a scumbag 😭🤣
Tim’s been talking shit about the Biden regime every day for two years.
Tim’s doing an acceptable job waking people up.
They very well could be trying to get ahead of it considering now that we have the house and the committees for investigating.
Much appreciated sir.
Separate note: feeling lucky to have a couple sticks simultaneously right now. If you read this, thanks mods. Much appreciated as always