Supporting our US boys and girls does not equal supporting the current administration.
I’ve been in this movement since year one. This is a very new direction here and I can’t support it. I was skeptical of Clandestine and his love for Russia and clear disdain for the US and US military from the beginning. There may be some truth to some things he says, but his agenda is becoming clearer.
I’m not trying to cause a split or rift, so if I don’t come back I wish you all the best and leave this advice. Be careful who you believe and follow. Remember you don’t know who any of these accounts really are or what their motives may be.
God Bless.
With all due respect, you seem to be over-reacting and being a bit dramatic. So, some people believe there is more to the Ukraine - Russia conflict than what the msm lets on. That doesn't mean they are prepared to pay obeisance to Russia or Putin. Is this the ONLY thing you see here with which you disagree? Like any community, I'm sure there is lots of disagreement amongst people. If you can't handle that, or if you believe it to be detrimental to you and yours in some way, then perhaps for your own peace of mind, it is better to leave. But that seems rather small minded and if you are old enough to have a child in the military, you have lived long enough to be strong enough to endure disagreement. Just my two cents. Either way, good luck.
The US dept of Defense was involved with developing Corona as a biological weapon. The Pentagon has secret bio-labs (for peaceful purposes of course) all around the world. The US armed forces told their members to get vaccinated or be fired.
You don't have to be pro-Russia if you're against the things mentioned above.
And being against the things above are NOT anti-US service members.
Quite the contrary - we want a strong country with a strong military that serves to protect freedom, and doesn’t send our men and women to die to fight proxy wars on behalf of and in service of corrupt politicians and government bodies that are just trying to protect themselves.
Sometimes group think takes over briefly and everyone echoes each other for a bit, but this is generally a very truth-based, research-oriented place where important details are found because of our reflex to question everything.
Ukraine is in the spotlight because there is such a thick, easily disputed narrative being pushed, and that narrative has the propensity to get our military hurt. We don’t want that anymore than you do. But that doesn’t necessarily translate to being pro-Putin, beyond simply wanting to see false narratives exposed wherever, and however, they come about.
You took the words right out of my mouth...
People are so pro Russian here that it’s hard to even bring up that Russians are extremely well versed and experienced with infiltrating and controlling right wing Christian spaces. Russian troll farms at one point ran 19 of the 20 biggest Christian groups on Facebook. Posts that are very obviously from Russian propaganda do extremely well here. At least some of the user base should scratch their heads at this.
I mean Russia did write the book on propaganda, intelligence and psyops. Or at least they were certainly more adept at applying it then their Western counterparts. That’s why the KGB ran rings around Western Intelligence for most of the Cold War. In fact We still don’t know the full extent of the KGB infiltration and intelligence networks. That sort of experience, connections and skill doesn’t just disappear with a name change and political tweaks.
It’s amazing how many people forget that. Or don’t think that the Russians wouldn’t employ those tactics and skills against Western Civilian populations again.
Not that they need to make any real effort to make Biden and Company look incompetent, stupid, and dangerous.
It makes my head spin that no one around here seems to think that Russia, of all god damn countries, wouldn’t push massive quantities of propaganda out during this war, they are the absolute best at it, bar none. It’s possible to not root for either side in a war as well. Idk.
Russia are the best at it, bar none?
I think the CIA and the CCP will disagree with you.
I have disagreed with many people here and have never had an issue with the disagreements. I love debate. The big issue for me is the admin and moderators here directing things toward Russia. When is the last time there was a pro US or US military link pinned? Every day there is a new pro Russia link and/or US military undermining post pinned. We aren’t having a neutral debate anymore. We are being shepherded and I can’t go along.
With all due respect have there been any 'Significant' US military MSM stories/events that we could link here?... I Personally am Pro Putin because of what he is doing...He's been transparent from the beginning concerning the SMO...He's telling the Truth about the 'Degradation of the West"...surely you can see that....Lastly being Pro Russian doesn't mean we are Anti-American...At all...
I agree.
There has been plenty of posts around Trump supporting US troops etc. and also how the current administration is leaving them high and dry.
I see. Thank you for explaining further. I haven't noticed that, but I am not as connected to the US Military as you are. Perhaps I would agree if I were. Having said that, the US Military (top brass, not necessarily the soldiers) have not exactly been covering the corps with glory in the past couple of years. So much so that those who would generally be quite likely to join, have refrained. So the admins not pushing more for the US military probably has something to do with that. And that is not to say there aren't good examples of great things the US military is doing, but maybe the admins need to work harder to find those. Examples of woke-ism in our military are rife (and disturbing.) The fact that Putin and Russia have apparently moved toward the more traditional, conservative, even Christian viewpoint is encouraging to many. My personal take is that I love our country and want to see us get back on the right track. But if we've gone off the rails, that behavior should be called out. If another country, one for many decades considered our arch enemy is actually turning and becoming more like we used to be, than that is something to notice and appreciate. Again, just my two cents.
I do like the Christian principles and I imagine I honestly have more in common with a Christian in Russia than a woke liberal here, but this is our country. In my opinion it’s our duty to make things better here and not jump to support the side of another country that has a history of opposing us. Particularly one that has threatened and has the ability to harm our soldiers, family and friends on a massive scale. The video Putin shared not long ago of Russia nuking Florida was a direct threat to all Americans. I don’t forget or take kindly to people threatening those I love.
All the best fren.
I understand, but what has OUR military done to its own? OUR own politicians and our OWN military leaders have done far more to harm the soldiers and underlings than Putin ever has. Threats are just words. But actual actions have consequences.