Hey Pedes, looking for clarity on a theory I'm mentally mulling around. It's kind of wild, but also, could have drastic implications if there is any truth to this.
I'll preface this by saying I am a believer in Christ, and only looking for truth, please don't shoot the messenger, this is an open debate and one I expect to see some heated emotions over.
The Greek word for "ante" is "αντι-", and although the current accepted translation of ἀντίχριστος is Anti-christ, there is little literature to explain the use of Anti vs Ante.
There is a possibility that the word "antichrist" in the Bible has been mistranslated or misunderstood, and that it may actually refer to an "ante-Christ," or a precursor to the coming of Christ, similar to how John the Baptist preceded Jesus. The book of Revelation, a highly symbolic and metaphorical text, may not actually predict a future apocalypse or end times, but rather symbolizes the ongoing struggle between good and evil in human history. According to this theory, the arrival of the "antechrist" figure may not be a negative event, but rather a necessary step in clearing the way for Jesus' return.
Let's analyze Trumps actions in contrast to the antechristos.
Abraham accords - negotiating peace with Isreal, only to turn his back in 3.5 years time. Does this fit with Biden getting into office?
The concept of a peace deal or covenant made by the antichrist is not explicitly mentioned in the book of Revelation, but it is described in some other parts of the Bible, particularly in the book of Daniel. In Daniel 9:27, it says:
"He [the antichrist] will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
Is the end of sacrifice, the end of child, human sacrifice to Baal? Or worse? This kind fits to me. Especially considering the Mossad connections with Epstein et al.
in Revelation 13:3, where it says, "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." This wound is described as being healed, and as a result, people are amazed and follow the beast.
I've often wondered if Trump gaining the presidency again would fulfill this passage?
There is a lot more to this theory, but it's a lot to type out, I'll leave it at this for now.
There are alternatives to this as well, as Obama/Biden could also fulfill the above prophecy by Biden essentially being an Obama Manchurian candidate. I don't know enough about Obamas political deals with Isreal to make a call on the first one.
One final thing here, Is to look at the way Jesus responded to Caiaphas and the high Jewish court :
You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also."
This is very telling that Jesus did not see YahWeh as his "Father" in heaven. Jesus never once mentioned Yahweh when referencing the father. He used Abba, or other terms.
Thoughts, pedes?
I think what he is saying is that the Jewish God might not actually be the same as the God we know through Jesus Christ.
Yessir!
The book of Revelation is a book of revealing to God's people the truth. Yahweh destroys, Jesus saves. Yahweh would have it that everything is destroyed based on his prior art. But Jesus promised we would be saved, and the fathers kingdom would be placed on earth.
All of scripture testifies of Jesus Christ. There is only one God, one Son, and all that is was made through Him. From the beginning. See John, starting at ch. 1, vs. 1.
“In the beginning was the Word . . .”
Uh, Jesus's name means "Yahweh saves". God so loved the world that he gave his Only Son. For more resources see the Inquiry Forum from the c/Christianity sidebar.
So what do you do with the book of Jonah ending in God's mercy?
this ^ is why I try to focus on the New Testament first; makes more sense that way.
Yhwh was known as "Yahweh Elohim" in full.
Elohim means "they who came from heaven to earth", plural.
Who came to earth? The 200 angels definitely did.
Who commanded them?
Yahweh, in my understanding.
The deeper you dig, the wilder it gets man.
Nephilim??
Elohim were "sons of god" or nobility as the Hebrew says. My thoughts are that they are non earth beings, from another planet. They were Nobility in their planet, and had high stature.
They had human wives, and bore offspring the Nephilim, or the Giants, Demigods in Greek history, or demi gods in Norse mythology. All the same.
The spirits of the Nephilim are not allowed off the planet, making Raphaim or, the dead ones. These are the demonic spirits of power that are generally more strong than standard Djinn or whatever you want to call them. Lower Astral parasites if you ask me.
Fair enough, as far as it goes. Quibbles with this are not the most fitting here.
No, Elohim means judges. The concept "they who came from heaven to earth" is present in the word yarad, to descend, as in the patriarch Jared in whose time this happened; this is explained in the book of Enoch. (Also nafal, to descend or fall, as in Nefilim, refers to some of the humans afterward.) Therefore you're mixing two sources in your statement. Let me just pull Enoch out of the pile next to me and see who headed the fallen angels: oh yeah, Semyaz (chapter 6); Azazel is also prominent. There is no ancient text about Yahweh leading the watchers who descended, though an esoteric reading of Gen. 10 teaches that Yahweh descends separately bearing grace, which is consistent with Paul's teaching on the descent of Christ and the Talmudic name for Christ, Bar-Nifle (son of the descended). Your last sentence is true: The deeper you dig, the wilder it gets man.
yep even talks about giants🥴
The biblical character known as yahweh was accused of being a "liar and a murderer since the very beginning" by Jesus himself when he said this to the Sanhedrin or High Jewish priests regarding the God they worship (Yahweh) and said clearly that their God is not his father in heaven, as mentioned above.
The Bible is old testament (yahwehs rule) and new testament (Jesus rule) which are conflicting in many ways, almost too many to list.
Was the Antichrist that we know, put there in the light that it is currently, by those who worship Yahweh? In an attempt to confuse and cause gods people to reject the one who comes before Christ (Trump cleaning house) just like they tried with Jesus?
This is a gnostic point of view. I think more than a few people on here would disagree with what you say but you're free to say what you think.
Something You Didn't Know About YHWH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZW--dZTGuU
replying so I don't forget & need to find that symbol^ reminds me of a celtic image I saved.
Also, I think listening to the Jefferson Bible has been helpful in understanding the NT; so if anyone is interested, this is a good version;
https://youtu.be/yMZNeQxm4GE
Who were the Jewish High priests known to pray to openly? Surely not Satan, although they may in secret.
Jesus was not one to mince words much, and he generally called it how he seen it, can you find me one instance where Jesus used the name Yahweh to describe his father in heaven? Surely he would have named him such, had that been his father, right?
Jesus actually took it a step farther and claimed that HE was Yahweh.
See the great “I AM” statements made by Jesus. Especially the one he makes directly to the Pharisees:
Now compare to the name given to Moses from the burning bush in Exodus 3:
It was crystal clear to the Pharisees who Jesus was equating himself to be: YAHWEH. For in the very next verse they picked up stones to kill him because Blasphemy (equating oneself to God) was punishable by death.
There are many other instance just like this one throughout the synoptic Gospels.
Jesus said clearly to the Pharisees that their father was Satan.
See John 8:44
I don't know my scripture that well to tell where you're referring from but immediately what comes to mind is the Sectarian Jewish Sect that wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls which was a sect around the time of Jesus.
The Dead Sea Scrolls // Ancient History Documentary | History Time
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kKjbc66qp3Y
If Jesus didn't ever call his Father by the name YHWH that doesn't mean he denied YHWH as his Father. That is a logical fallacy argument.
Does he ever explicitly say YHWH was not his Father? That would actually cement his beliefs rather than people merely speculating and guessing.
Concerning the high priests, Stephen called out those who worshipped the six pointed star of remphan, Ezekiel 8 shows us who they worship and what they do in secret and revelation calls them out as the deceitful synagogue of satan who claim they are his chosen people but are deceitful name stealing charlatans. John called them out as a den of vipers. Paul called them wolves in sheeps clothing who would come in and take over positions of authority. They are all of the same spirit and the same corruption we’ve been battling with since the beginning, usurpers who claim God but serve the enemy.
My understanding is out Jesus using the term abba instead of his fathers direct name was to stress the importance of relationship. How many times have you called your father by his name? He was always speaking to people who knew exactly who he was referring to.
There is a major red flag with your theories, especially with your view of who yhwh is that brings me to ask one sincere question and that is where did the idea of yhwh just being a warlord tribal alien come from?
Look into Helena Blavatsky and the secret doctrine and then ask yourself why your theory has ideas that are rooted upon theories that are derived from a professed lucifarian?
If you do not know who Helena Blavatsky is, she would be a good place for you to start to begin to see the lies of the new age and how they have by design seeped into modern day Christianity and especially with regards to eschatology and the interpretation of the Bible. If you know about the niv and how it so subtly removes the power from the word you begin to realize how sly the enemy truly is.
“It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of Kings to search it out.”
Besides those already listed, since you recognize the watchers you should also recognize that Jesus was always watching too. Thus he is the Angel of Yahweh who constantly calls on the name of Yahweh, such as Gen. 18:14 as the first coming to mind.
You are speaking of the devil.
John 8:44 GNV
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he hath been a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, then speaketh he of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
The liar and murderer from the beginning (John 8:44) is real, but why would you believe his cronies who say his name is Yahweh? What you're thinking of is an entity who hardly has any name, only titles, but was first known as Helel (praiser or shiner). He was created by Yahweh, he desired to be like Yahweh, but couldn't seize that exact name reserved to the Creator by royal prerogative, and could only corrupt variations of it; in the first century he was known as Yaldabaoth (a corrupt version of Yahweh Sabaoth). The Bible says Yahweh is the real Creator, overseeing creation like a master of public works (a demiurge, from demos public), so Helel called himself the demiurge and creator instead. This spirit, which most everyone means by the titles satan (adversary) and devil, never ruled over anyone but the spirit minions he deceived, and should not be confused with the perfect reign of Yahweh throughout all history through his perfect Word, Jesus. It is satan who teaches that the Bible, God's written Word, conflicts with itself.
Thus those Pharisees (not all of them) were indeed serving the devil, and probably some of them thought of him as Yahweh or Yaldabaoth, but others historically attested did not, and sought the true Creator, as we all should.
God's Word was put out there for perfect reasons, and none could interfere with what he wanted delivered. Trump may clean house before Christ indeed, but Trump stands or falls on his confession of Jesus as the Christ. Deception will be thick for awhile, so test everything, including what I say, by its truth and alignment with the reality created by Yahweh the Creator. If you cannot call on the Creator, you cannot be saved by Jesus; you deny Father and Son.